Greg Maddux is the weakest link in rotation

[ironman]

But it seems like he comes in as the weak link in the rotation. Maddux is on the decline, while the other starters are getting stronger. Since 2000, Maddux has dropped from averaging 7.12 innings per game and six complete games to 6.06 innings per game and one complete game in 2003. His strikeouts for that period have gone from 190 to 124. All of these stats put him last among the five Cub starters. Plus, it's just not realistic to expect him to improve on or even retain those numbers this late in his career.

[Dr.Gonzo]

How sad is it that he would have probably been our best #3.

[ironman]

It's nuts, man.

All those folks who are excited about signing Pujols better like the fact he's the only excitement coming up. We're not going to win as many games as those guys. Our pitching sucks.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Think Dunc can teach Pujols to pitch?

[ironman]

No. Pujols is not washed up or a project.

[Iowa_Card]

This just makes the point that they signed the wrong free agent all the more obvious.

[bigJOE]

we still have a good lineup, and i like our bullpen. starting pitching is the big ?, but we'll see. who knows, maybe one of our dead arms will be one of those great comeback stories

as for maddux, i don't think he's gonna be as great as everyone thinks. we'll kill him. so will the stros. i didn't want the cards to sign him. he'd be the Tino of the mound. watch. he'll suck this year.

[CD]

My opinion on the Maddux signing is that if he meets the clauses that pick up the option, the Cubs are going to regret the contract in 2006. $9 million for a 41-year-old pitcher? Way too much.

That's why the Cubs better win the pennant in the next two years. If Maddux plays a big role in that happening, then you bite the bullet on a potentially bad year with a bloated salary because the guy helped you win a pennant. Otherwise this contract was a waste of money because Maddux was never more than an expensive luxury for the Cubs.

[bpd008]

Originally posted by bigJOE@Feb 20 2004, 10:24 AM
as for maddux, i don't think he's gonna be as great as everyone thinks. we'll kill him. so will the stros. i didn't want the cards to sign him. he'd be the Tino of the mound. watch. he'll suck this year.

I couldn't agree more. I was having a lot of trouble understanding why many Cards fans were so excited about bringing him in. The Cubs overpaid for him both in terms of $$ and years.

[ironman]

Originally posted by bigJOE@Feb 20 2004, 10:24 AM
but we'll see. who knows, maybe one of our dead arms will be one of those great comeback stories

Isn't it sad we need to rely on that?

[ironman]

Originally posted by bpd008@Feb 20 2004, 10:30 AM
I couldn't agree more. I was having a lot of trouble understanding why many Cards fans were so excited about bringing him in. The Cubs overpaid for him both in terms of $$ and years.

Who do we have that is better? Morris?

Ok.

Williams? We should start a countdown to when he will go on the DL.

[CD]

Originally posted by bpd008@Feb 20 2004, 08:30 AM
I was having a lot of trouble understanding why many Cards fans were so excited about bringing him in.

Tells you all you need to know about the Cards' pitching staff.

[bigJOE]

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[hkyfan]

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