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    FOUND! Letters to San Francisco Mayor Newsom

    Dear Mayor Newsom,

    While I applaud your brave decision to issue marriage licenses to homosexual and lesbian couples, I demand that you consider my case, which I believe is every bit as valid under the equal protection clause of the state of California. I am a man in love with two women. The three of us have lived in the same house together for over six years and feel we are entitled to the same rights and privileges accorded to monogamist couples under the law. In short, we three wish to be legally married. Marge and I and Trudy love each very much and have every intention of spending the rest of our lives together. Trudy is expecting her first child in May and Marge wants to have children as well. Why shouldn't our kids grow up knowing that their parents are married and that they are considered "legitimate" in the eyes of the state? Just think how lucky our children will be to have a father and TWO mothers! Please do what you can to ensure that our civil rights are upheld and that we may marry as soon as possible. Thank you very much.

    Sincerely,

    James P. Wortsome
    Santa Maria, CA


    Dear Mayor Newsom,

    My sister and I have never married; we are what some used to call "old maids." Our parents are both gone and for more than thirty years we've shared the family home in a very nice area of town. We, of course, love each very much, but we've also grown to depend on each other more and more with each passing year. We are the only family and friends either of us have. Since this whole business of "same-sex marriage" has arisen we have been discussing it amongst ourselves and cannot understand why we shouldn't be allowed to marry each other, too. If love and commitment are the criteria for marriage, then we certainly qualify. No two people could love each other more, nor be anymore devoted to each other than my sister and I. We would just adore having a license that would cement the bond, which we already feel in our hearts, to the public at large. Are we as sisters any less deserving of legal marriage than two homosexuals? Although we live across the country we would be more than willing to relocate to the bay area should you decide to expand the qualifications of marriage to include siblings. Please let me know what you decide.

    Very Truly Yours,

    Miss Martha Brewster
    Brooklyn Heights, NY


    Dear Mayor Newsom,

    It's about time! My congratulations to you in your decision to legitimize, at long last, gay marriage. You said that the equal protection clause of the state of California makes denying marriage licenses to same-sex partners illegal and I couldn't agree more - but please, let's not stop there. As I watched the happy married gays and lesbians walking down the steps of city hall on the news in past weeks, I couldn't help but feel left out and sad in my own situation. I am a bisexual man who has been involved in a loving relationship with one particular woman and one particular man for quite awhile now. As much as I am truly happy for all the gays who can at last celebrate wedded bliss, I must tell you I feel totally disenfranchised. Why can't I and my two lovers be married too? My partners and I do not understand why the law discriminates against us just because we are three and not two. We all have good jobs, pay our fair share of taxes, and have never knowingly hurt anyone. We hope to have children at some point in time and would prefer to raise our babies within a legally sanctioned relationship. Our future children need to have all the protections and rights that any other children have who happen to grow up in a monogamous household. Just think how lucky our children will be to have a mother and TWO fathers! Stop bisexual harassment and let us marry! We are American citizens too!

    Sincerely,

    L.E. Whipsnade
    Lompoc, CA


    Dear Mayor Newsom.

    I have been watching with interest, as have so many other Americans, the societal breaking events which have transpired with your decision to allow same-sex marriages to be performed in San Francisco. Love is a beautiful thing. Sometimes it blossoms between a man and a woman, sometimes it blossoms between a man and a man, or a woman and a woman. For me it has blossomed with a Lhasa apso. After years of unfulfilling, unhappy human relationships, I can honestly say that I have finally found my own true love in this small, sweet canine. Bette and I (her full name is Tibette Davis) are more than just pals. We go everywhere together. We eat together, we watch television together, we play together and we sleep together. There's no question that I love her and she is the most important thing in my life. I know she loves me, too. When I die I will leave all my possessions to Bette. I just don't understand a society that limits so called "legal love" to only creatures who happen to be human beings. Dogs are the Divine's creatures every bit as much as people are. Why shouldn't I be allowed to marry my little baby, Bette? We are as much a loving twosome as any two humans are - in many cases, even more so. What else could it be but simple discrimination and caniniphobic prejustices that prevent two warm, loving beings from being officially wed in our society? Love knows no bounds. No one has the right to tell someone else who they should or shouldn't marry!

    Ms. Maggie Barkley
    Berkley, CA


    Dear Mayor Newsom,

    I've been told by my wife that I am married to my job. If I divorce her, can you issue me a license so that I might do the right thing by my profession? I might just as well make this union legal once and for all. Anything you can do would be greatly appreciated.

    Best regards,
    Will B. Driven
    And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

    -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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    The bisexual bigomy one is a good one.

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    • #3
      I know someone who lives in Lompoc. I wonder if that was him who really wrote that letter.

      Sometimes elections have positive consequences!

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      • #4
        Pandora's Box swings wide on its hinges.
        And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

        -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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        • #5
          Does somebody else with a clue want to point out how asinine all that is? I could cut and paste remarks from all the other threads where Damtoft's spewed his stuff, but anybody else is welcome...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Damtoft@Feb 29 2004, 12:36 PM
            Pandora's Box swings wide on its hinges.
            John,

            I took alot of heat for making that same remark a few days ago.

            I agree 100%. This is only the beginning of the debauchery to come.
            Make America Great For Once.

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            • #7
              All humanity is going to come to ruin if we let gay and lesbian couples marry. And by the the way Y2K was going to do the same thing. My mom is friends with a gay couple who have been together for 27 years. Most straight relationships don't last that long. It isn't hurting anyone to let 2 committed adults who love eachother be married and have all of the benefits that provides. There are so many other things that are wrong in this country that no one cares about that it sickens me that this is such a big deal.
              "They misunderestimated me."
              Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000


              "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."—Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004


              "If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign."
              -Hilton Head, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000

              Gives you the warm fuzzies, doesn't it?

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              • #8
                One whole gay couple?

                Wow.
                And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

                -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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                • #9
                  At least Saturday was a "gay-free" day at the SPORT forum.
                  Make America Great For Once.

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                  • #10
                    I don't see any serious letters.

                    If they are then the answer is No...no interspecies marriages, no inter-family marriages and a marriage by defintion has only two people involved.
                    Go Cards ...12 in 13.


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by matt75@Feb 29 2004, 12:42 PM
                      All humanity is going to come to ruin if we let gay and lesbian couples marry. And by the the way Y2K was going to do the same thing. My mom is friends with a gay couple who have been together for 27 years. Most straight relationships don't last that long. It isn't hurting anyone to let 2 committed adults who love eachother be married and have all of the benefits that provides. There are so many other things that are wrong in this country that no one cares about that it sickens me that this is such a big deal.
                      Matt,

                      I've been married to my wife for 25 years.

                      Gay people don't have a toe-hold on long relationships.
                      Make America Great For Once.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Damtoft@Feb 29 2004, 12:44 PM
                        One whole gay couple?

                        Wow.
                        Yes damtoft. In the history of the world there has only been one gay couple that has lasted long term. Nevermind, I'm done. It's not worth the fight.
                        "They misunderestimated me."
                        Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000


                        "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."—Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004


                        "If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign."
                        -Hilton Head, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000

                        Gives you the warm fuzzies, doesn't it?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Kev+Feb 29 2004, 12:46 PM-->
                          QUOTE(The Kev @ Feb 29 2004, 12:46 PM)

                        • #14
                          Originally posted by matt75@Feb 29 2004, 12:42 PM
                          There are so many other things that are wrong in this country that no one cares about that it sickens me that this is such a big deal.
                          Morally, I am undecided on the gay marriage issue.

                          My problems with it revolve around 2 things:

                          1) No one has thought about the financial implications of this. Right now our society is based upon one segment being allowed to marry. What are the ramifications if a whole new segment are brought in to avail themselves of financial rights typically limited to one segment? For instance, health care is one area that would see a huge hit financially.

                          2) Where is the line drawn? A big argument is made to the point that disallowing gay marriage imepedes the rights of those involved. Yet even though the "letters" posted may have been fabricted and outrageous, they do raise an interesting question. Where is that line? Why, if our long held notion that gay marriage is "bad", should bigomy be bad? What about marrying your sister? You can say there our obvious reasons they should not occur, but others would say the same about gay marriage.

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by TTB@Feb 29 2004, 12:45 PM
                            If they are then the answer is No...no interspecies marriages, no inter-family marriages and a marriage by defintion has only two people involved.
                            Seemingly it used to be man and wife as well.

                            If you're redefining this you might as well go all the way.

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