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    Malcontent labels still baffle ex-Card Martinez
    Rick Hummel
    02/28/2004



    ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - The words "malcontent" and "cancer" - the words used by some in the media and then subsequently the fan base - still make first baseman Tino Martinez wince. Now with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays after being shipped there by the Cardinals, who are paying $7 million of the $8.5 million due him, Martinez said that he had no idea where he had picked up the labels.

    "I don't know what happened in the media. I don't really feel I have to defend myself," he said. "Those are bad words. Malcontent or cancer or causing dissension amongst the team. Come on. You can write that I was playing poorly and not doing my job. But to go further than that . . . that's terrible.

    "I really don't know how it happened. I don't. I didn't make excuses. I didn't come up with fake injuries and not play for a week."

    In the second year of a three-year, $21 million contract, Martinez, 36, drove in just 26 runs after the All-Star break to finish with a modest 69 to go with 15 home runs.

    "I was kind of disappointed in the way I played," Martinez said. "I played hard and did the best I could, but I didn't put up the numbers I wanted to put up, for whatever reason. I have no idea why but I could have played at a better level."

    Martinez said he had no complaints with manager Tony La Russa other than he was disappointed at not playing against lefthanded pitchers sometimes and at being double-switched out of a game.

    "I'd be out of the game a lot of times in the sixth inning. I got double-switched a lot," said Martinez, who played only in the American League, where there are no double switches, until he got to St. Louis.

    "You miss the seventh, eighth and ninth innings. I wanted to play more, of course. I didn't like coming out of games. But that's his job. I understand all that. I was frustrated but I didn't make a big fuss about it."

    Martinez hit a combined 36 home runs in his two seasons with the Cardinals, giving him 299 for his career.

    "When (Mark) McGwire left, obviously I don't think the fans expected me to hit 70 home runs, but I still came in to perform and I didn't do it," Martinez said. "The more I put pressure on myself, the worse I got.

    "You do doubt yourself when you're struggling and you're a little older, but I know I have bat speed and I can play well."

    Before the Cardinals and Tampa Bay made the trade, Tampa Bay manager Lou Piniella called La Russa. "He wanted to know if Tino really wanted to play in Tampa Bay," La Russa said.

    The Cards' manager not only assured Piniella that Martinez wanted to play in his hometown, but that he could still be productive.

    La Russa has been a staunch defender of Martinez the person. "I wish people could know the real Tino Martinez," he said the other day. "He was one of our better leaders."

    This is exactly what pitcher Matt Morris said in a letter he composed to the Post-Dispatch, defending Martinez after he was traded away.

    Martinez was stunned. "Things have happened to guys in the past where players have got a bad rap and I never took the time to write a letter," he said. "When I look back on it, I really could have helped somebody by doing that. For Matt to do that was one of the greatest things a teammate has ever done for me. For him to take the time to do that was awesome. I got calls from other guys in baseball who had heard about it. I couldn't believe he did that."

    Morris smiled when told that Martinez had praised him for sending the letter to the newspaper. "The best part of it was the 10-minute message he left on my machine, thanking me for it," Morris said.

    Eduardo Perez, a teammate of Martinez's then and now, said, "He's a very intense guy and he's not going to take to losing very well. And he shouldn't. We're not here to lose.

    "But think about it. If I thought he was a cancer, I wouldn't be here."

  • #2
    Originally posted by devaskar@Feb 29 2004, 02:34 AM
    Come on. You can write that I was playing poorly and not doing my job. But to go further than that . . . that's terrible.
    Nice to see him sack-up and admit he sucked....
    . . . and to tell you this: I work with gays, have friends who are gay, go to church with gays. Most of them are aware that I believe that homosexual behavior is sin. Some of them actually agree. Most don't. It's OK . . . because they also know or at least have been made aware of my multitude of sins: adulterous heart, lustful and covetous behavior, wicked pride, angry spirit . . . do I need to go on?
    -mike
    mike smith, post-dispatch online sports editor

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    • #3
      Stroker, he did say that a few times (Couldn't deny it though)

      Liked this though

      I didn't come up with fake injuries and not play for a week.
      Is this a JD reference or was he just citing an example?

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      • #4
        I think most labels would baffle Mr. Martinez. The only one he could understand is............Tino Sucks!
        I agree with Davhaf.....Kaiser March 9,2004

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        • #5
          Tino............

          Find me one local article that called you a malcontent or cancer............

          I'd say the most scathing thing I saw was "negative influence"...........Meaning because you sucked........Your hang-dog "woe is me" attitude rubbed off on some of your caring teammates..............

          Get over yourself.........Sack-up.........And move on..........If that's possible..............
          AKA reddevil
          AKA davel a devil

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          • #6
            Tino SUCKS

            "The numbers will be there"

            -Tino Martinez - May, 2003
            And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

            -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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