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    MADD is going to go apeshit over this.

    College Presidents Want Lower Drinking Age


    By JUSTIN POPE, Associated Press | August 19, 2008

    College presidents from about 100 of the nation's best-known universities, including Duke, Dartmouth, and Ohio State, are calling on lawmakers to consider lowering the drinking age to 18 from 21, saying current laws actually encourage dangerous binge drinking on campus.

    The movement called the Amethyst Initiative began quietly recruiting presidents more than a year ago to provoke national debate about the drinking age.

    "This is a law that is routinely evaded," a former president of Middlebury College in Vermont who started the organization, John McCardell, said. "It is a law that the people at whom it is directed believe is unjust and unfair and discriminatory."

    Other prominent schools in the group include Syracuse, Tufts, Colgate, Kenyon, and Morehouse.

    But even before the presidents begin the public phase of their efforts, which may include publishing newspaper ads in the coming weeks, they are already facing sharp criticism.

    Mothers Against Drunk Driving says lowering the drinking age would lead to more fatal car crashes. It accuses the presidents of misrepresenting science and looking for an easy way out of an inconvenient problem. MADD officials are even urging parents to think carefully about the safety of colleges whose presidents have signed on.

    "It's very clear the 21-year-old drinking age will not be enforced at those campuses," the national president of MADD, Laura Dean-Mooney, said.
    Both sides agree alcohol abuse by college students is a huge problem.
    Research has found more than 40% of college students reported at least one symptom of alcohol abuse or dependance. One study has estimated more than 500,000 full-time students at four-year colleges suffer injuries each year related in some way to drinking, and about 1,700 die in such accidents.

    A recent Associated Press analysis of federal records found that 157 college-age people, 18 to 23, drank themselves to death between 1999 and 2005.

    Moana Jagasia, a Duke University sophomore from Singapore, where the drinking age is lower, said reducing the age in America could be helpful.
    "There isn't that much difference in maturity between 21 and 18," she said. "If the age is younger, you're getting exposed to it at a younger age, and you don't freak out when you get to campus."

    McCardell's group takes its name from ancient Greece, where the purple gemstone amethyst was widely believed to ward off drunkenness if used in drinking vessels and jewelry. He said college students will drink no matter what, but do so more dangerously when it's illegal.

    The statement the presidents have signed avoids calling explicitly for a younger drinking age. Rather, it seeks "an informed and dispassionate debate" over the issue and the federal highway law that made 21 the de facto national drinking age by denying money to any state that bucks the trend.

    But the statement makes clear the signers think the current law isn't working, citing a "culture of dangerous, clandestine binge-drinking," and noting that while adults under 21 can vote and enlist in the military, they "are told they are not mature enough to have a beer." Furthermore, "by choosing to use fake IDs, students make ethical compromises that erode respect for the law."

    "I'm not sure where the dialogue will lead, but it's an important topic to American families and it deserves a straightforward dialogue," said William Trout, president of Rhodes College in Memphis, Tenn., who has signed the statement.

    But some other college administrators sharply disagree that lowering the drinking age would help. University of Miami President Donna Shalala, who served as secretary of health and human services under President Clinton, declined to sign.

    "I remember college campuses when we had 18-year-old drinking ages, and I honestly believe we've made some progress," Ms. Shalala said in a telephone interview. "To just shift it back down to the high schools makes no sense at all."
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  • #2
    While we're at it we might as well do away with speed limits since they seem to disobey that law as well.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Iowa_Card View Post
      While we're at it we might as well do away with speed limits since they seem to disobey that law as well.
      Well, it is a law that is routinely evaded.

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      • #4
        I know a lot of folks who're middle age or older that act more irresponsible when they get a snootfull than people in their late teens and twenty.
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        • #5
          i never understood why they said being unable to drink until 21 encouraged binge drinking. i mean, i was drinking by 16, so would they lower it to that age since i was just being "encouraged"?

          and while i have no opinion on the age limit, it does kinda seem like the presidents are avoiding a situation. i mean how many people go to college and for the first time in their lives get away from home and their parents and experience new things? its not because they're underage, its because of a new atmosphere
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          • #6
            I don't think that there should be any drinking minimum age, though I honestly feel that about almost all minimum ages
            Time for change

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            • #7
              I wonder how much colleges spend trying to enforce laws against under-age drinking.

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              • #8
                Insane. Like they don't have enough alcohol-related problems on campus as it is?

                Actually, I'd go for this -- as long as they also raise the driving age to 25.

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                • #9
                  I would have been for this like 20 years ago.
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                  • #10
                    If they got a private campus, I would say let them do as they want with the ages. That means the campus police has to work more but that is what they get paid to do.

                    When I was in the Marines, the drinking age in California at Camp Pendleton was 18 because it was on government property. When I got to Camp Lejeune in NC, the drinking age was 21 because the property was on state ground and had to follow the state laws.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ksbluesfan View Post
                      I wonder how much colleges spend trying to enforce laws against under-age drinking.
                      I think it's more the city police departments than the college police force enforcing the law.

                      One other thing: This law does not prevent those under the age of 21 from consuming alcohol within the home of their legal guardian. This law prevents establishments and businesses from selling alcohol to those under 21. In other words, the law attempts to protect against unsupervised consumption of alcohol.

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                      • #12
                        The only way the drinking age should be lowered is for military IF it's going to be lowered.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Reggie Cleveland View Post
                          Insane. Like they don't have enough alcohol-related problems on campus as it is?

                          Actually, I'd go for this -- as long as they also raise the driving age to 25.
                          What about the numerous DWI's of people in their 30's and above?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Zythrst View Post
                            I don't think that there should be any drinking minimum age, though I honestly feel that about almost all minimum ages
                            What about the age of sexual consent?

                            Should a 35 year old guy be able to tag 1 14 year old girl without any legal ramifications?

                            Just asking a genral question, not saying that you feel this way.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bleacher Creature View Post
                              What about the age of sexual consent?

                              Should a 35 year old guy be able to tag 1 14 year old girl without any legal ramifications?

                              Just asking a genral question, not saying that you feel this way.
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                              Time for change

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