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    Legal immunity for troops is still a potential stumbling block

    BAGHDAD - The U.S. and Iraq are close to a deal under which all American combat troops would leave by October 2010 with remaining U.S. forces gone about three years later, two Iraqi officials said Thursday.
    A U.S. official in Washington acknowledged progress has been made on the timelines for a U.S. departure but offered no firm date. Another U.S. official strongly suggested the 2010 date may be too ambitious. A timetable is part of a security agreement being negotiated by U.S. and Iraqi officials.
    And senior U.S. officials in Baghdad and Washington told NBC News that any agreement on withdrawing American forces would not likely include a "specific timetable" but be based on "security conditions at the time."
    Those sources said they have no idea how close both sides are to a deal, but they claim that the pending agreement under discussion is heavily qualified to give both Iraq and the U.S. the flexibility they may need as security conditions on the ground change.
    Immunity an issue
    Both sides stress the deal is not final and could fall apart over the issue of legal immunity for American troops.
    One of the U.S. officials said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki had a long and "very difficult" telephone conversation Wednesday in which she pressed the Iraqi leader for more flexibility, particularly on immunity.
    Earlier Thursday, a spokesman for Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr said he will call on his fighters to maintain a cease-fire against American troops but may lift the order if the planned Iraq-U.S. security agreement lacks a timetable for the withdrawal of American forces.
    The statement by Sheik Salah al-Obeidi comes as al-Sadr plans to reveal details of a formula to reorganize his Mahdi Army militia by separating it into an unarmed cultural organization and elite fighting cells.
    The announcement is expected during weekly Islamic prayer services on Friday.
    Several cease-fires by al-Sadr have been key to a sharp decline in violence over the past year, but American officials still consider his militiamen a threat and have backed the Iraqi military in operations to try to oust them from their power bases in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
    Cleric's move called 'an incentive'
    Al-Sadr's move appears to be an extension of plans he announced in June aimed at asserting more control over the militia by dividing it into a group of experienced members who would be exclusively authorized to fight and others who would focus on social, religious and community work.
    But the cleric also apparently has decided to link the reorganization to ongoing U.S.-Iraqi negotiations over the long-term agreement that would extend the American presence in Iraq after a U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year. The White House's original goal was to have it completed by the end of July.
    "This move is meant to offer an incentive for the foreign forces to withdraw," al-Obeidi said. "The special cells of fighters will not strike against foreign forces until the situation becomes clear vis-a-vis the Iraq-U.S. agreement on the presence of American forces here."

    Right before the election? no way. lol
    I guess it just worked out like that...
    Be passionate about what you believe in, or why bother.

  • #2
    Impossible. We've been told that timelines = surrender.

    Hell, we've even been told that there's no way that faggot Obama can get our troops out by 2010.



    • #3
      Maybe they got tired of this.....

      U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates
      Be passionate about what you believe in, or why bother.


      • #4
        They're trying to take the wind out of Obama's sails. If he can't change what's happening in Iraq, is there any reason to vote for him?


        • #5
          Originally posted by ksbluesfan View Post
          They're trying to take the wind out of Obama's sails. If he can't change what's happening in Iraq, is there any reason to vote for him?
          To keep Kev happy?


          • #6
            Originally posted by Reggie Cleveland View Post
            To keep Kev happy?
            Have a pleasant evening, assfixintogetblackrage.
            His mind is not for rent, to any god or government.
            Pointless debate is what we do here -- lvr


            • #7
              I know I need a small vacation
              But it don't look like rain


              • #8
                Originally posted by ksbluesfan View Post
                They're trying to take the wind out of Obama's sails. If he can't change what's happening in Iraq, is there any reason to vote for him?
                Go Cards ...12 in 13.


                • #9
                  Good times:

                  U.S. may reduce forces in Iraq by spring
                  Posted 6/22/2007 6:23 PM
                  By Pauline Jelinek, Associated Press Writer
                  WASHINGTON — The U.S. may be able to reduce combat forces in Iraq by next spring, if Iraq's own security forces continue to grow and improve, a senior American commander said Friday. He denied reports that the U.S. is arming Sunni insurgent groups to help in the fight against al-Qaeda.

                  U.S. general in Iraq outlines troop cuts
                  Michael R. GordonPublished: SUNDAY, JUNE 25, 2006

                  WASHINGTON: The top American commander in Iraq has drafted a plan that projects sharp reductions in the United States military presence there by the end of 2007, with the first cuts coming this September, American officials say.

                  According to a classified briefing at the Pentagon this week by the commander, Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the number of American combat brigades in Iraq is projected to decrease to 5 or 6 from the current level of 14 by December 2007.

                  U.S. Signals Spring Start for Pullout
                  General Restates Position, Noting Contingencies, During Rumsfeld Visit to Baghdad
                  By Ann Scott Tyson and Ellen Knickmeyer
                  Washington Post Staff Writers
                  Thursday, July 28, 2005; Page A18

                  BAGHDAD, July 27 -- The top U.S. military leader in Iraq said Wednesday there could be substantial withdrawals of some of the 135,000 U.S. troops in the country as early as next spring.

                  Gen. George W. Casey said that despite continued lethal attacks by insurgents, the security situation in Iraq had improved. He reiterated a position he had taken earlier this year on the possible decrease in the U.S. military presence during a one-day visit by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld for meetings with Prime Minister Ibrahim Jafari.
                  Dude. Can. Fly.