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    I hate when those pricks use a mosque to launch their attacks.

    Attack on US base in Afghanistan kills 9 Americans
    By JASON STRAZIUSO, Associated Press Writer
    45 minutes ago



    KABUL, Afghanistan - A multi-pronged militant assault on a small, remote U.S. base close to the Pakistan border killed nine American soldiers and wounded 15 Sunday in the deadliest attack on U.S. forces in Afghanistan in three years, officials said.



    The attack on the American troops began around 4:30 a.m. and lasted throughout the day. Militants fired machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars from homes and a mosque in the village of Wanat in the mountainous northeastern province of Kunar, NATO's International Security Assistance Force said in a statement.

    "Although no final assessment has been made, it is believed insurgents suffered heavy casualties during several hours of fighting," NATO said in a statement.

    U.S. officials say militant attacks in Afghanistan are becoming more complex, intense and better coordinated than a year ago. Monthly death tolls of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan surpassed U.S. military deaths in Iraq in May and June. And last Monday, a suicide bomber attacked the Indian Embassy in Kabul, killing 58 people in the deadliest attack in the Afghan capital since 2001.

    U.S. officials are considering drawing down additional forces from Iraq in coming months, in part because of the need for additional U.S. troops in Afghanistan. U.S. officials have said they need at least three more brigades in Afghanistan — or more than 10,000 troops.

    NATO confirmed nine of its soldiers had been killed and 15 wounded. A Western official said the nine dead were Americans, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the troops' nationalities. Four Afghan soldiers also were wounded, NATO said.

    Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green, the top U.S. military spokeswoman in Afghanistan, said she could not comment because the fighting was ongoing.

    The attack was the deadliest for U.S. troops in Afghanistan since June 2005, when 16 American troops were killed — also in Kunar province — when their helicopter was shot down by a rocket-propelled grenade. Those troops were on their way to rescue a four-man team of Navy SEALs caught in a militant ambush. Three SEALs were killed, the fourth was rescued days later by a farmer.

    The latest assault came at a time of rising violence in Afghanistan. Also on Sunday, a suicide bomber targeting a police patrol killed 24 people, including 19 civilians, while U.S. coalition and Afghan soldiers killed 40 militants elsewhere in the south.

    More than 2,300 people — mostly militants — have died in insurgency-related violence this year, according to an Associated Press tally of official figures. Attacks in eastern Afghanistan are up 40 percent this year compared with last year.

    Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, warned during a visit to Kabul last week that there are more foreign fighters, including al-Qaida members, in Pakistan's tribal areas, militants who cross the border and launch attacks against U.S. and Afghan troops.

    Mullen has said he hopes improved security in Iraq will allow troops to be shifted this year from Iraq to Afghanistan, where violence is rising.

    Violence in Iraq is at its lowest level in four years and Iraqi forces are taking on more responsibility, trends that could allow Gen. David Petraeus, the top American commander in Iraq, to recommend to President Bush in September that he resume a troop withdrawal that is being put on hold this month so Petraeus has time to assess the overall situation. A top Bush aide, Ed Gillespie, said Sunday that withdrawing more troops from Iraq after that assessment always has "been a possibility."

    Another cause for concern in Afghanistan is the high casualty tolls for civilians killed in violence. This month, an Afghan government commission found that U.S. aircraft killed 47 civilians during a bombing run in Nangarhar province, while a separate incident in Nuristan province is alleged by an Afghan officials to have killed 22 civilians.

    The tolls have prompted the International Committee of the Red Cross this week to ask all sides to show restraint and avoid civilian casualties. But violence continued around the country on Sunday.

    A suicide bomber on a motorcycle blew himself up next to a police patrol in the southern province of Uruzgan, killing 24 people. The bomb attack on a police patrol at a busy intersection of the Deh Rawood district killed five police officers and 19 civilians, wounding more than 30 others, said Juma Gul Himat, Uruzgan's police chief. Most of those killed and wounded were shopkeepers and young boys selling goods in the street, he said.

    Elsewhere, Taliban militants executed two women in central Afghanistan late Saturday after accusing them of working as prostitutes on a U.S. base.

    The women, dressed in blue burqas, were shot and killed just outside Ghazni city in central Afghanistan, said Sayed Ismal, a spokesman for Ghazni's governor. He called the two "innocent local people."

    Taliban fighters told Associated Press Television News the two women were executed for allegedly running a prostitution ring catering to U.S. soldiers and other foreign contractors at a U.S. base in Ghazni city.

    1st Lt. Nathan Perry, a U.S. military spokesman, said he had not heard allegations "anything close to that nature."

    Meanwhile, at least 40 militants were killed following an attack on Afghan and U.S.-led coalition forces in Helmand province, the coalition said in a statement. The militants attacked the combined forces near Sangin on Saturday from "multiple concealed and fortified positions," the coalition said. Thirty "enemy boats" and several small bridges have been destroyed on the Helmand River during two days of fighting, it said.

    Also Sunday, a soldier with NATO's International Security Assistance Force died in a roadside blast in Helmand province, a statement said. The soldier's nationality was not released and it wasn't clear if the death was connected to the two-day battle.

    In the north, a soldier serving with ISAF died of wounds caused by an explosion Saturday, the military alliance said in a statement. The statement did not give any further details of the explosion. The soldier's nationality was not disclosed.

    There are nearly 53,000 troops from 40 nations serving in the ISAF in Afghanistan.

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    But we would be insensative assholes for leveling the place. Time to bring them home.
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    • #3
      Oh, what's the problem? We've got Afghanistan under control.

      On a related note, anyone notice that Pakistan said the US is not looking for Bin Laden in Pakistan? Sounds about right. I mean, why look for the guy in the place he's most likely to be? I mean, what a crazy idea.

      Moon

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Moon Man View Post
        Oh, what's the problem? We've got Afghanistan under control.

        On a related note, anyone notice that Pakistan said the US is not looking for Bin Laden in Pakistan? Sounds about right. I mean, why look for the guy in the place he's most likely to be? I mean, what a crazy idea.

        Moon
        You know full well that even if we were the Pakistanis could never admit it outright.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by skippy05 View Post
          But we would be insensative assholes for leveling the place. Time to bring them home.
          I agree. We're in a no win situation. It's ok for those jackoffs to use a mosque to attack us, but imagine the outrage if we were to attack a mosque.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Maverick View Post
            You know full well that even if we were the Pakistanis could never admit it outright.
            Sure. But the fact that we haven't caught Bin Laden after 7 years is pretty strong evidence that we really aren't in Pakistan, or even all that interested in getting the guy.

            Moon

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Moon Man View Post
              Sure. But the fact that we haven't caught Bin Laden after 7 years is pretty strong evidence that we really aren't in Pakistan, or even all that interested in getting the guy.

              Moon
              I would agree. We found Hussein in a fucking hole in the ground in the middle of nowhere when he didn't want to be found and we can't find bin Laden when we pretty much know where he's at and doesn't seem too interested in hiding? Interesting.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by skippy05 View Post
                I would agree. We found Hussein in a fucking hole in the ground in the middle of nowhere when he didn't want to be found and we can't find bin Laden when we pretty much know where he's at and doesn't seem too interested in hiding? Interesting.
                GWB used OBL as a distraction to go after Saddam.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by skippy05 View Post
                  But we would be insensative assholes for leveling the place.


                  Shit happens...


                  Time to bring them home.
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                  • #10
                    Florrissant hero amongst the nine who paid the ultimate price.




                    Florissant man dies in Afghanistan

                    By Joel Currier
                    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
                    07/15/2008

                    A man from Florissant who was serving in Afghanistan was among the nine Army soldiers killed in an ambush last weekend, a relative confirmed today.

                    Gunnar Zwilling, 20, died early Sunday morning in an insurgent attack on an American outpost in eastern Afganistan, said his aunt Lisa Zwilling, 47, of O'Fallon, Mo.

                    "He was a dedicated military man," she said. "He loved every minute of it."

                    The U.S. Department of Defense has not confirmed Zwilling's death.

                    Nine American soldiers were killed in ambush, officials said. More than 100 militants showered the base with machine guns, rocket propelled grenades and mortar shells.

                    Zwilling enlisted in the Army after graduating from Hazelwood West High School, his aunt said. He was not married, and had planned to make his career serving the military.

                    He was a parachutist with an airborne unit for the past 15 months and was scheduled to return home in about a week, Lisa Zwilling said. She said he has an older brother, Alex, who serves in the Air Force.

                    His mother died last fall, Lisa Zwilling said. His father is recovering from throat cancer.

                    Funeral arrangments are pending.
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                    • #11
                      Gunnar Zwilling


                      Thats a cool name for a soldier. RIP...
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Razzy View Post
                        Thats a cool name for a soldier. RIP...


                        Or for half of a bitchin' rock n' roll duo.

                        Moon

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by skippy05 View Post
                          But we would be insensative assholes for leveling the place. Time to bring them home.
                          I've read in The Atlantic that many in the Administration see Iran's intervening with al-Sadr to make him back down as a very calculating, damaging move that prevented us levelling a large mosque, with complete justification. The Arabs themselves have no problem destroying their own holy places during wars, or fighting during Ramadan, and we've threatened to level a hospital that Saddam had put anti-aircraft guns on top of. I'll be surprised if this tactic works for much longer.

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                          • #14
                            Here's some more info on the battle. Apparently it got down to hand to hand combat.

                            The base was occupied by 45 US soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division and 25 Afghan soldiers. It was only two days old when it came under fierce bombardment on Sunday morning. Taleban fighters successfully breached the outer defences and were prevented from overrunning the base only after fierce hand-to-hand fighting.

                            Just over half of the US garrison was killed or injured in the battle, with 9 US dead and 15 injured; a further 4 Afghan troops were also injured.
                            http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4344905.ece
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