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  • #1

    Edmonds headed to Cooperstown? Bernie thinks so...

    So he opines in today's Bits...IF he gets to 400 HRs...

    I know we've had this discussion before, and I've been on the fence as to whether I think he's a HoF'er...

    But I'm inclined to say "yes" now...I started this thread at the Pressbox, and Bernie provided some numbers:


    Again, it's important to view his career through the prism of playing CF, and against other CFs.

    I ran some numbers through the STATS database, and unfortunately for the kind of check I wanted to do, the stats only go back to 1974.

    But still, this gives us a good glimpse of how Edmonds rates in the last 30+ years when compared to other CF, a fairly significant sweep of history ... and keep in mind that these numbers are based on his hitting as a CF, only ...

    * Edmonds is second to Griffey in OPS, and it's close: .932 to .920

    * Edmonds is tied for second in HRs (with Andruw Jones)behind Griffey ...

    * Edmonds is second in slugging (Griffey 1st) ...

    * Edmonds is 5th in RBIs ... but, by the end of the season (if he stays healthy) he'll be third. And at some point next season, he'll pass Bernie Williams and move into the No. 2 spot.

    * Edmonds is third in RC/27 behind two sure Hall of Famers, Griffey and Rickey Henderson.

    And it's close: Henderson is 7.37, Griffey 7.27, Edmonds 7.17.

    (and of course, Henderson played a lot of LF; that RC/27 is just as a CF).

    Then throw the Gold Gloves into it...

    And review that Snider comparison (thanks for that).

    compelling case, IMO.

    -B
    I think that's a pretty compelling case...
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    He's gotta hit 29 more dingers for this to even be plausible...

    And this guy doesn't care for his Edmonds articles...

    Bernie,

    Your disgusting obesity finally made its way to your brain. Your latest writing leaves me wondering if you had your inevitable stroke or heart attack. I can't understand how someone usually as even keeled as yourself can write the biggest piece of --- that sports journalism has ever seen. Your extra points have become an embarrassment to not only the city of St. Louis, but sports journalism in general. It's quite obvious that you not only provide food for thought, you eat the entire buffet. Too bad it's not brain food. Eat the entire KFC bucket before you write your next article please. Your journalistic integrity skyrockets when you're not grumpy and hungry. Keep that in mind, please.


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    • #3
      that's pathetic. I wonder if that guy would say that to Bernie's face?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by 007 View Post
        He's gotta hit 29 more dingers for this to even be plausible...

        And this guy doesn't care for his Edmonds articles...
        That prick posted the same shit on Gateway Redbirds.com

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        • #5
          Wow. That is damn harsh.

          Those stats are compelling.
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          • #6
            No to Edmonds HOF.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tazlaz View Post
              No to Edmonds HOF.

              Why?
              " Look, forget the myths the media's created about the White House--the truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JK View Post
                Why?
                He plays for the Cubs. Duh.

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                • #9
                  This forum has been in need of a thread to discuss Jimmy Edmonds.
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                  • #10
                    Love Jim Edmonds, but no way is he HOF. In the Steroid Era, 400 HR's is really not that big of a deal.

                    Also...just 4 All-Star games in 15 years? If you want to give him HOF on just Gold Gloves, then Andruw Jones is HOF right now.

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                    • #11
                      That's fucked up re: the guy's attack on Benie on his weight. That's the comment made by a guy with no real argument and wants to be an internet tough guy. Fat men unite!

                      And, yes, HOF for Jimmy Ballgame...
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                      • #12
                        Edmonds has actually been an All Star six times...and while 400 HRs isn't a huge deal these days, it helps solidify the case, IMO...

                        Besides, you could also make the argument that it may be a bigger deal in the steroid era if you believe Edmonds wasn't on the juice and he was facing pitchers that were...

                        As I said before, I was on the fence, but Bernie provides compelling numbers when comparing him to the CF's of the past 30+ years...his numbers are near the top of all of them...
                        " Look, forget the myths the media's created about the White House--the truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JK View Post
                          Edmonds has actually been an All Star six times...and while 400 HRs isn't a huge deal these days, it helps solidify the case, IMO...

                          Besides, you could also make the argument that it may be a bigger deal in the steroid era if you believe Edmonds wasn't on the juice and he was facing pitchers that were...

                          As I said before, I was on the fence, but Bernie provides compelling numbers when comparing him to the CF's of the past 30+ years...his numbers are near the top of all of them...
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                          There are quite a few ballplayers who are in the HOF without 500+ HRs. I think when you put the total package together-defensive play, slugging, etc.-he's a HOFer.
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                          • #14
                            When he's inducted, is it OK to applaud?
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                            • #15
                              I'm sick and tired of so many fans and more so the writers using the "steroid issue" against the players of that era. IMO, since MLB turned a blind eye, they in turn said it was ok. So therefore those men should get recognized for their performance.
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