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    The Bush Paradox

    By DAVID BROOKS
    Let’s go back and consider how the world looked in the winter of 2006-2007. Iraq was in free fall, with horrific massacres and ethnic cleansing that sent a steady stream of bad news across the world media. The American public delivered a stunning electoral judgment against the Iraq war, the Republican Party and President Bush.

    Expert and elite opinion swung behind the Baker-Hamilton report, which called for handing more of the problems off to the Iraqi military and wooing Iran and Syria. Republicans on Capitol Hill were quietly contemptuous of the president while Democrats were loudly so.

    Democratic leaders like Senator Harry Reid considered the war lost. Barack Obama called for a U.S. withdrawal starting in the spring of 2007, while Senator Reid offered legislation calling for a complete U.S. pullback by March 2008.

    The arguments floating around the op-ed pages and seminar rooms were overwhelmingly against the idea of a surge — a mere 20,000 additional troops would not make a difference. The U.S. presence provoked violence, rather than diminishing it. The more the U.S. did, the less the Iraqis would step up to do. Iraq was in the middle of a civil war, and it was insanity to put American troops in the middle of it.

    When President Bush consulted his own generals, the story was much the same. Almost every top general, including Abizaid, Schoomaker and Casey, were against the surge. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was against it, according to recent reports. Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki called for a smaller U.S. presence, not a bigger one.

    In these circumstances, it’s amazing that George Bush decided on the surge. And looking back, one thing is clear: Every personal trait that led Bush to make a hash of the first years of the war led him to make a successful decision when it came to this crucial call.

    Bush is a stubborn man. Well, without that stubbornness, that unwillingness to accept defeat on his watch, he never would have bucked the opposition to the surge.

    Bush is an outrageously self-confident man. Well, without that self-confidence he never would have overruled his generals.

    In fact, when it comes to Iraq, Bush was at his worst when he was humbly deferring to the generals and at his best when he was arrogantly overruling them. During that period in 2006 and 2007, Bush stiffed the brass and sided with a band of dissidents: military officers like David Petraeus and Raymond Odierno, senators like John McCain and Lindsey Graham, and outside strategists like Fred Kagan of the American Enterprise Institute and Jack Keane, a retired general.

    Bush is also a secretive man who listens too much to Dick Cheney. Well, the uncomfortable fact is that Cheney played an essential role in promoting the surge. Many of the people who are dubbed bad guys actually got this one right.

    The additional fact is that Bush, who made such bad calls early in the war, made a courageous and astute decision in 2006. More than a year on, the surge has produced large, if tenuous, gains. Violence is down sharply. Daily life has improved. Iraqi security forces have been given time to become a more effective fighting force. The Iraqi government is showing signs of strength and even glimmers of impartiality. Iraq has moved from being a failed state to, as Vali Nasr of the Council on Foreign Relations has put it, merely a fragile one.

    The whole episode is a reminder that history is a complicated thing. The traits that lead to disaster in certain circumstances are the very ones that come in handy in others. The people who seem so smart at some moments seem incredibly foolish in others.

    The cocksure war supporters learned this humbling lesson during the dark days of 2006. And now the cocksure surge opponents, drunk on their own vindication, will get to enjoy their season of humility. They have already gone through the stages of intellectual denial. First, they simply disbelieved that the surge and the Petraeus strategy was doing any good. Then they accused people who noticed progress in Iraq of duplicity and derangement. Then they acknowledged military, but not political, progress. Lately they have skipped over to the argument that Iraq is progressing so well that the U.S. forces can quickly come home.

    But before long, the more honest among the surge opponents will concede that Bush, that supposed dolt, actually got one right. Some brave souls might even concede that if the U.S. had withdrawn in the depths of the chaos, the world would be in worse shape today.

    Life is complicated. The reason we have democracy is that no one side is right all the time. The only people who are dangerous are those who can’t admit, even to themselves, that obvious fact.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by tallahassee blues fan View Post
    Life is complicated. The reason we have democracy is that no one side is right all the time. The only people who are dangerous are those who can’t admit, even to themselves, that obvious fact.
    That's fucking rich coming from David Brooks.

    In any event, how many additional Americans have died, so that none of the proposed benchmarks could be met? There is no considered endgame, only endless dying.
    From this day forward, I no longer shall tinker with the machinery of death.

    For more than 20 years I have endeavored-indeed, I have struggled-along with a majority of this Court, to develop procedural & substantive rules that would lend more than the mere appearance of fairness to the death penalty endeavor.


    I feel morally and intellectually obligated simply to concede that the death penalty experiment has failed.

    The path the Court has chosen lessens us all. I dissent.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tallahassee blues fan View Post
      The Bush Paradox

      By DAVID BROOKS
      Let’s go back and consider how the world looked in the winter of 2006-2007. Iraq was in free fall, with horrific massacres and ethnic cleansing that sent a steady stream of bad news across the world media. The American public delivered a stunning electoral judgment against the Iraq war, the Republican Party and President Bush.

      Expert and elite opinion swung behind the Baker-Hamilton report, which called for handing more of the problems off to the Iraqi military and wooing Iran and Syria. Republicans on Capitol Hill were quietly contemptuous of the president while Democrats were loudly so.

      Democratic leaders like Senator Harry Reid considered the war lost. Barack Obama called for a U.S. withdrawal starting in the spring of 2007, while Senator Reid offered legislation calling for a complete U.S. pullback by March 2008.

      The arguments floating around the op-ed pages and seminar rooms were overwhelmingly against the idea of a surge — a mere 20,000 additional troops would not make a difference. The U.S. presence provoked violence, rather than diminishing it. The more the U.S. did, the less the Iraqis would step up to do. Iraq was in the middle of a civil war, and it was insanity to put American troops in the middle of it.

      When President Bush consulted his own generals, the story was much the same. Almost every top general, including Abizaid, Schoomaker and Casey, were against the surge. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was against it, according to recent reports. Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki called for a smaller U.S. presence, not a bigger one.

      In these circumstances, it’s amazing that George Bush decided on the surge. And looking back, one thing is clear: Every personal trait that led Bush to make a hash of the first years of the war led him to make a successful decision when it came to this crucial call.

      Bush is a stubborn man. Well, without that stubbornness, that unwillingness to accept defeat on his watch, he never would have bucked the opposition to the surge.

      Bush is an outrageously self-confident man. Well, without that self-confidence he never would have overruled his generals.

      In fact, when it comes to Iraq, Bush was at his worst when he was humbly deferring to the generals and at his best when he was arrogantly overruling them. During that period in 2006 and 2007, Bush stiffed the brass and sided with a band of dissidents: military officers like David Petraeus and Raymond Odierno, senators like John McCain and Lindsey Graham, and outside strategists like Fred Kagan of the American Enterprise Institute and Jack Keane, a retired general.

      Bush is also a secretive man who listens too much to Dick Cheney. Well, the uncomfortable fact is that Cheney played an essential role in promoting the surge. Many of the people who are dubbed bad guys actually got this one right.

      The additional fact is that Bush, who made such bad calls early in the war, made a courageous and astute decision in 2006. More than a year on, the surge has produced large, if tenuous, gains. Violence is down sharply. Daily life has improved. Iraqi security forces have been given time to become a more effective fighting force. The Iraqi government is showing signs of strength and even glimmers of impartiality. Iraq has moved from being a failed state to, as Vali Nasr of the Council on Foreign Relations has put it, merely a fragile one.

      The whole episode is a reminder that history is a complicated thing. The traits that lead to disaster in certain circumstances are the very ones that come in handy in others. The people who seem so smart at some moments seem incredibly foolish in others.

      The cocksure war supporters learned this humbling lesson during the dark days of 2006. And now the cocksure surge opponents, drunk on their own vindication, will get to enjoy their season of humility. They have already gone through the stages of intellectual denial. First, they simply disbelieved that the surge and the Petraeus strategy was doing any good. Then they accused people who noticed progress in Iraq of duplicity and derangement. Then they acknowledged military, but not political, progress. Lately they have skipped over to the argument that Iraq is progressing so well that the U.S. forces can quickly come home.

      But before long, the more honest among the surge opponents will concede that Bush, that supposed dolt, actually got one right. Some brave souls might even concede that if the U.S. had withdrawn in the depths of the chaos, the world would be in worse shape today.

      Life is complicated. The reason we have democracy is that no one side is right all the time. The only people who are dangerous are those who can’t admit, even to themselves, that obvious fact.
      Well see here's the problem with the entire analyis.

      It begins with a dismissing several failures. As if you go to a casino lose 100 grand then win 10 grand and you want to congratulate yourself for staying and winning back 10 grand.
      Son your just dumb.
      Your goal in the war was not to lose 4,000 soldiers and spend 3 trillion it was to have the war over quickly and get out with spending less than 100th of that in casualities and money.
      The Surge still cost us lives and money - just not as many lives lately but certainly more money.
      Balderdash is the Republican motto on the war in Iraq - use keep saying bullshit until someone says I can see that.
      Turning the other cheek is better than burying the other body.

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      • #4
        Bush?

        LOL

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Schwahalala View Post
          Well see here's the problem with the entire analyis.

          It begins with a dismissing several failures. As if you go to a casino lose 100 grand then win 10 grand and you want to congratulate yourself for staying and winning back 10 grand.
          Son your just dumb.
          Your goal in the war was not to lose 4,000 soldiers and spend 3 trillion it was to have the war over quickly and get out with spending less than 100th of that in casualities and money.
          The Surge still cost us lives and money - just not as many lives lately but certainly more money.
          Balderdash is the Republican motto on the war in Iraq - use keep saying bullshit until someone says I can see that.
          Schwa-

          This column is not about Bush. As in most columns by Brooks, it's about defending the completely nonsensical position Brooks took at some time in the past. It's merely his explanation as to why he should bear no culpability for avidly encouraging the death and destruction in Iraq for moronic high school concepts that he believes should govern foreign policy.

          Brooks is a pathetic little man, with pathetic little ideas, which shows you just what it means to be a conservative in America today.
          From this day forward, I no longer shall tinker with the machinery of death.

          For more than 20 years I have endeavored-indeed, I have struggled-along with a majority of this Court, to develop procedural & substantive rules that would lend more than the mere appearance of fairness to the death penalty endeavor.


          I feel morally and intellectually obligated simply to concede that the death penalty experiment has failed.

          The path the Court has chosen lessens us all. I dissent.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ppg shg View Post
            Brooks is a pathetic little man, with pathetic little ideas, which shows you just what it means to be a conservative in America today.
            Your analysis of Brooks is correct in all respects except that part about being conservative.

            Brooks is a thoroughgoing statist and a propagandist for any state action that either:

            A. Further empowers the Establishment; or

            B. Is good for Israel.

            You called it but didn't go far enough...the purpose of his columns now is not just to subtly and cynically exonerate himself, but to exonerate the entire neocon agenda which is almost entirely for Israel's benefit.

            He's basically a shill for a foereign government...and there is nothing "conservative" about that in the proper sense of the word.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by King View Post
              Your analysis of Brooks is correct in all respects except that part about being conservative.

              Brooks is a thoroughgoing statist and a propagandist for any state action that either:

              A. Further empowers the Establishment; or

              B. Is good for Israel.

              You called it but didn't go far enough...the purpose of his columns now is not just to subtly and cynically exonerate himself, but to exonerate the entire neocon agenda which is almost entirely for Israel's benefit.

              He's basically a shill for a foereign government...and there is nothing "conservative" about that in the proper sense of the word.
              All I can do is go by the labels that people give themselves. If others object to a bunch of numnuts calling themselves "conservative", well that's their fight.

              Brooks is such an ego-maniac that his first concern is attempting to exonerate himself. The fact that this becomes an attempt to exonerate the neo-con movement, because their beliefs are one in the same, is only a secondary result of Brooks' attempt to justify his sorry ass.

              The same goes for the neo-con belief structure and the benefit to Israel. The neo-cons have this vapid belief structure which they believe benefits the US (particularly since they don't have to do anything to back it up). Most of them are too stupid to even realize that the true beneficiary of their ridiculous policies isn't even their own country.
              From this day forward, I no longer shall tinker with the machinery of death.

              For more than 20 years I have endeavored-indeed, I have struggled-along with a majority of this Court, to develop procedural & substantive rules that would lend more than the mere appearance of fairness to the death penalty endeavor.


              I feel morally and intellectually obligated simply to concede that the death penalty experiment has failed.

              The path the Court has chosen lessens us all. I dissent.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ppg shg View Post
                Schwa-

                This column is not about Bush. As in most columns by Brooks, it's about defending the completely nonsensical position Brooks took at some time in the past. It's merely his explanation as to why he should bear no culpability for avidly encouraging the death and destruction in Iraq for moronic high school concepts that he believes should govern foreign policy.

                Brooks is a pathetic little man, with pathetic little ideas, which shows you just what it means to be a conservative in America today.
                Agreed.
                Turning the other cheek is better than burying the other body.

                Official Sport Lounge Sponsor of Rhode Island - Quincy Jones - Yadier Molina who knows no fear.
                God is stronger and the problem knows it.

                2017 BOTB bracket

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by King View Post
                  Your analysis of Brooks is correct in all respects except that part about being conservative.

                  Brooks is a thoroughgoing statist and a propagandist for any state action that either:

                  A. Further empowers the Establishment; or

                  B. Is good for Israel.

                  You called it but didn't go far enough...the purpose of his columns now is not just to subtly and cynically exonerate himself, but to exonerate the entire neocon agenda which is almost entirely for Israel's benefit.

                  He's basically a shill for a foereign government...and there is nothing "conservative" about that in the proper sense of the word.
                  How many columnists out there are like that?

                  Off the top of my head - Marty Peretz, Brooks, Krauthammer, Steyn etc.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by hansolo View Post
                    How many columnists out there are like that?

                    Off the top of my head - Marty Peretz, Brooks, Krauthammer, Steyn etc.
                    Bill Kristol, Michael Ledeen...

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