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    McCain, Obama present different views on taxes

    By Jeff Mason 2 hours, 18 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama staked out starkly opposing stances on taxes on Tuesday, with McCain promising corporate tax breaks and Obama pledging tax increases for many.

    McCain in a speech in Washington accused Obama of seeking the single largest tax increase since World War Two while Obama, in a television interview, said he would increase taxes on the wealthy and on stock profits to pay for a middle-class tax cut of $1,000 a year.

    "No matter which of us wins in November, there will be change in Washington. The question is what kind of change?" McCain told a conference for small businesses.

    Obama told CNBC that he would raise taxes on Americans making $250,000 a year or more and raise the capital gains tax for those in higher income brackets while exempting small investors. He said the U.S. economy has been "out of balance for too long."

    "The general principle of raising taxes on higher income Americans, like myself, and providing relief to those who haven't benefited as much from this new global economy, I think, is a sound one," Obama said.

    But Obama, 46, said he would consider deferring some of the tax increases, depending on the economic situation he inherits from President George W. Bush should he win the November election.

    The differences on how to spur new growth in the sluggish U.S. economy, at a time of rising unemployment, record-high gasoline prices and a persistent housing crisis, represented a key point of argument for the two candidates in their battle to determine who wins the presidency.

    Obama and other Democrats believe economic conditions, including $4-a-gallon gasoline, will persuade many Americans to vote for them in November. McCain wants to fight the election on national security, which he considers his strength.

    WOULD KEEP BUSH TAX CUTS

    McCain, 71, vowed to maintain Bush's tax cuts, lower corporate tax rates from 35 percent to 25 percent and allow companies to expense new equipment and technology in their first year.

    He supported keeping capital gains taxes as they are now, doubling a tax exemption for children, and phasing out the Alternative Minimum Tax, which he said would save some 25 million middle-class families up to $2,000 in a year.

    He said he could pay for the plan by cutting what he called wasteful government spending, including ethanol and sugar subsidies and weapons systems.

    "We're going to scrub every agency of government and we're going to make them justify their existence. And if they can't, they're going to go out of existence," he said on CNBC.

    Democrats argue not enough cuts could be made in the federal budget to pay for McCain's tax cuts, which Obama said would total $300 billion.

    "I've said that John McCain is running to serve out a third Bush term, but the truth is when it comes to taxes, that's not being fair to George Bush," Obama told reporters in St. Louis, where he traveled to talk up his proposals on revamping the U.S. health care system.

    McCain was equally dismissive of Obama's economic plan, which he said would hurt the 100 million Americans who own stock.

    "Under Senator Obama's tax plan, Americans of every background would see their taxes rise -- seniors, parents, small business owners and just about everyone who has even a modest investment in the market," McCain said.

    Anti-Iraq war protesters interrupted McCain's speech a handful of times, standing up and saying war was bad for small business before they were escorted out of the room.

    (Additional reporting by John Whitesides; writing by Steve Holland and Andy Sullivan; editing by David Alexander and David Wiessler)

    (To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters "Tales from the Trail: 2008" online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)
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    Looking to see if I make more than 250K per?

    Umm, nope.
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    • #3
      "We're going to scrub every agency of government and we're going to make them justify their existence. And if they can't, they're going to go out of existence," he said on CNBC.
      McCain is in favor of putting more people on unemployment benefits.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Iowa_Card View Post
        McCain is in favor of putting more people on unemployment benefits.
        Just black government workers in DC. They'd find a way to lose their jobs sooner or later anyway.

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        • #5
          McCain will get republican hearts thumping with excitement and glee over the prospect of someone in the Veteran's Administration who answers phones at a VA hospital losing his plush, unnecessary 60,000 dollar a year job, while he turns a blind eye and deaf ear towards the 800,000 thousand dollar a year mercenaries from Blackwater staying in Iraq as long as necessary.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by kjoe View Post
            McCain will get republican hearts thumping with excitement and glee over the prospect of someone in the Veteran's Administration who answers phones at a VA hospital losing his plush, unnecessary 60,000 dollar a year job, while he turns a blind eye and deaf ear towards the 800,000 thousand dollar a year mercenaries from Blackwater staying in Iraq as long as necessary.
            Doesn't McCain just SUCK?

            I mean, flat-out SUCK?

            Like, sucking suckage suck?

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            • #7
              He said he could pay for the plan by cutting what he called wasteful government spending
              you mean like sending the First Lady to Afghanistan? What a fucking waste of money that was.
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              • #8
                Damn Obama wanting to raise my taxes. I got a kid to feed.

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                • #9
                  I make well below $250k/yr but it still sounds like Robin Hood to me. Why doesn't Obama just leave the taxes alone, cut spending and then give us poor shleps a $1,000 tax break that way. That would be infinitely better than blowing up the government bureaucratic balloon.
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                  • #10
                    "The general principle of raising taxes on higher income Americans, like myself, and providing relief to those who haven't benefited as much from this new global economy, I think, is a sound one," Obama said.

                    Well, I think, I don't.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Reggie Cleveland View Post
                      Doesn't McCain just SUCK?

                      I mean, flat-out SUCK?

                      Like, sucking suckage suck?
                      He does seem to lack perspective from time to time.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by marco View Post
                        I make well below $250k/yr but it still sounds like Robin Hood to me. Why doesn't Obama just leave the taxes alone, cut spending and then give us poor shleps a $1,000 tax break that way. That would be infinitely better than blowing up the government bureaucratic balloon.

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                        The tax issue is one that I completely disagree with Obama on in the upcoming election. It's the one policy area where I favor McCains ideas rather than Obama's.

                        This makes much more sense than what Obama proposes.

                        McCain, 71, vowed to maintain Bush's tax cuts, lower corporate tax rates from 35 percent to 25 percent and allow companies to expense new equipment and technology in their first year.

                        He supported keeping capital gains taxes as they are now, doubling a tax exemption for children, and phasing out the Alternative Minimum Tax, which he said would save some 25 million middle-class families up to $2,000 in a year.

                        He said he could pay for the plan by cutting what he called wasteful government spending, including ethanol and sugar subsidies and weapons systems.

                        "We're going to scrub every agency of government and we're going to make them justify their existence. And if they can't, they're going to go out of existence," he said on CNBC.
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                        • #13
                          Yeah, I must admit...Obama is off base on this issue.

                          I, like HkyFan, dont agree with Obama on this and am leaning more towards McCain's view.

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                          • #14
                            I've got news for both of them...someone's got to pay the bill on the war debt...


                            How's that going to happen?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JK View Post
                              I've got news for both of them...someone's got to pay the bill on the war debt...


                              How's that going to happen?
                              Crushing the economy under tax burdens is certainly the answer.
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