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  • Huffington Post says The Beast is slayed.

    Hillary Clinton has summoned top donors and backers to attend her New York speech tomorrow night in an unusual move that is being widely interpreted to mean she plans to suspend her campaign and endorse Barack Obama - if not that night, within a day or two.
    Obama and Clinton spoke Sunday night and agreed that their staffs should begin negotiations over post-primary activities, according to reliable sources. In addition to seeking Obama's help in raising money to pay off some $20 million-plus in debts, Clinton is known to want Obama to assist black officials who endorsed her and who are now taking constituent heat, including, in some cases, primary challenges from pro-Obama politicians.
    "This has never happened before," one donor said, referring to the personalized request by email to attend the event in New York Tuesday night.
    Obama is expected to claim enough delegates to put him over the top that night at a separate event in St. Paul.
    In an afternoon conference call today with about two dozen top fundraisers, Clinton strategist Harold Ickes spoke in very conciliatory terms about Obama, in contrast to his tougher rhetoric in public and on television, according to sources. He told the participants that Clinton wants to "significantly" help Obama, but he did not go so far as saying that she will announce withdrawal -- that is the prerogative of the candidate.
    Ickes told the group to "take a deep breath" and let Clinton proceed in her own fashion.
    Earlier in the day it was reported that Clinton staffers were being urged by the campaign's finance department "to turn in their outstanding expense receipts by the end of the week," another sign that the run at the White House was nearing an end. In addition, Politico wrote that members of Clinton's advance staff had received calls and emails Sunday night, summoning them to New York City and telling them their roles on the campaign are ending.


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    Revealed in the coverage of Clinton's campaign is the persistence of an ancient and distasteful cultural theme: the powerful, ambitious woman as cackling fiend, as fantastically terrifying ghoul threatening civilization. And because this creature (or "she-devil," as MSNBC commentator Chris Matthews called Clinton) is not human, the only solution is to kill it. Not just derail its career—obliterate it. Smash it to smithereens. Vaporize it. Leave not a trace of the foul beast behind.

    Hence the appalling preponderance of violent, death-infused imagery in conversations about Clinton, smuggled into otherwise ordinary political discourse like a knife taped on the bottom of a cake plate: On CNN, pundit Alex Castellanos said democrats must realize that "it's time to take the family dog to the vet." Matthews' MSNBC colleague Keith Olbermann expressed the hope that "somebody will take her into a room—and only he comes out." CNN's Jack Cafferty gleefully floated the specter of Clinton being run over by a flatbed truck. A recent Tribune editorial compared Clinton to a euthanized Kentucky Derby contender.

    She is, according to author Andrew Sullivan, akin to the zombies in the film "28 Days Later" (2002), as well as that knife-wielding harpy in "Fatal Attraction"—the one with the relentless, rapacious, inhuman will: "It's alive!" Sullivan wrote, adding, "Whoosh—She's back at your throat." The comparison between the Close character and Clinton also seemed apt to U.S. Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.), who wrote, "Glenn Close should've stayed in that bathtub." Translation: Death. Comedian Chris Rock loves the "Fatal Attraction" link as well. Ditto for blogger Wil Wheaton, who played Wesley in the TV series "Star Trek: The Next Generation," who dubbed Clinton "the psycho ex-girlfriend of the Democratic party."
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      Revealed in the coverage of Clinton's campaign is the persistence of an ancient and distasteful cultural theme: the powerful, ambitious woman as cackling fiend, as fantastically terrifying ghoul threatening civilization. And because this creature (or "she-devil," as MSNBC commentator Chris Matthews called Clinton) is not human, the only solution is to kill it. Not just derail its career—obliterate it. Smash it to smithereens. Vaporize it. Leave not a trace of the foul beast behind.
      ++

      But then I'm voting GOP so I'm enjoying myself perhaps a little too much.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jeffro View Post
        ++

        But then I'm voting GOP so I'm enjoying myself perhaps a little too much.
        This is true. It has been interesting to see people who profess to be liberals suddenly adopt the rhetoric of FreeRepublic.com.



        Also, I believe it's "slain".
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        • #5
          Originally posted by kah View Post
          This is true. It has been interesting to see people who profess to be liberals suddenly adopt the rhetoric of FreeRepublic.com.



          Also, I believe it's "slain".
          Do you think Mrs. Clinton's actions this past month and a half were in the best interests of the party? A lot fewer people had a problem with her 2 months ago.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by InSighT View Post
            Do you think Mrs. Clinton's actions this past month and a half were in the best interests of the party?
            That running for president stuff she pulled was bullshit.

            Oh well. Obama v. McCain, let the games begin. We'd better not fuck this up.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by InSighT View Post
              Do you think Mrs. Clinton's actions this past month and a half were in the best interests of the party? A lot fewer people had a problem with her 2 months ago.
              Well, you don't make many friends when you walk into the room and proclaim yourself the Prom Queen when the vote hasn't even been tallied.

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              • #8
                Oh geez. Let's get out the tissues.

                I want to be considered tenacious, invicincible, unstoppable, a down and dirty fighter, tougher than the rest, but I don't want anyone to associate negative qualities to it.

                And then I'm going to cite some feminist literature bullshit in support.
                From this day forward, I no longer shall tinker with the machinery of death.

                For more than 20 years I have endeavored-indeed, I have struggled-along with a majority of this Court, to develop procedural & substantive rules that would lend more than the mere appearance of fairness to the death penalty endeavor.


                I feel morally and intellectually obligated simply to concede that the death penalty experiment has failed.

                The path the Court has chosen lessens us all. I dissent.

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                • #9
                  I want to be considered tenacious, invicincible, unstoppable, a down and dirty fighter, tougher than the rest, but I don't want anyone to associate negative qualities to it.
                  And indeed if you were a man no one would.

                  Anyway, I find myself just about talked out on the subject of Hillary Clinton, so, onward and upward....



                  The one thing that will bear watching is Ohio. I know you can get Obama to 270 in other ways. The Kerry states plus, say, New Mexico, Colorado, and Iowa. Or Colorado and Missouri. Or Virginia, should that not be a mirage, plus Colorado or Missouri or New Mexico and Iowa.

                  But I still think Ohio's the key. Watch the Ohio polling. Watch to see if there is, in fact, movement to Obama once he is officially for reals the candidate and he and McCain square off against each other.

                  I have no confidence that Obama can carry Florida.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kah View Post
                    That running for president stuff she pulled was bullshit.

                    Oh well. Obama v. McCain, let the games begin. We'd better not fuck this up.
                    when it was clear she couldn't win except by pulling a backroom deal, she should have dropped out. Imagine how much easier Obama vs. McCain would be if she hadn't been holding the show up for 2 months.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by InSighT View Post
                      when it was clear she couldn't win except by pulling a backroom deal, she should have dropped out. Imagine how much easier Obama vs. McCain would be if she hadn't been holding the show up for 2 months.
                      I think it is likely that a lot of Hillary's superdelegates will soon switch to Obama, and he will have a several hundred vote lead by the convention. But if I were her, I would just suspend the campaign, with an option to return if there was scandal or medical issues which dramatically changed obama's electability. I would rather she dropped out and endorsed him---but I could understand if she just did nothing.
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                      • #12
                        She's done, who cares? Let's move on. My dislike of her has nothing to do with gender. I just hated her sense of entitlement. If she was a man I'd still fucking hate her. I was all for Bill when he was running the show but I've even started to dislike him because he also thought it should have been handed to her.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SKIDOG View Post
                          She's done, who cares? Let's move on. My dislike of her has nothing to do with gender. I just hated her sense of entitlement. If she was a man I'd still fucking hate her. I was all for Bill when he was running the show but I've even started to dislike him because he also thought it should have been handed to her.

                          ++ My feelings exactly, except that I dont hate her, I just despise her sense of entitlement.

                          Although the Clintons, based on name recognition and the early polling and Bills' popularity, had all the reason in the world to believe that she'd coast to the nomination by Super Tuesday.

                          A lot of people - especially them - underestimated Obama. Even I did, until he started campaigning.
                          Last edited by Razzy; 06-03-2008, 06:10 AM.
                          “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.”

                          Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in.

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                          • #14
                            To add one more thing... Hillary can change the perception about her if she bows out gracefully and then puts 100% into supporting and campaigning for Obama.

                            It's what she should do, if she is truly about the Democratic party and not herself.
                            “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.”

                            Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kah View Post
                              This is true. It has been interesting to see people who profess to be liberals suddenly adopt the rhetoric of FreeRepublic.com.



                              Also, I believe it's "slain".
                              It also has been interesting to see people who profess to be Democrats excuse every prevarication, changing rationale and the slash and burn campaign of the person with the highest negatives in the race -- especially when one of the best candidates in the past 40 years is winning the nomination.

                              Intersting, but not surprising.

                              The Beast Is Dead!
                              His mind is not for rent, to any god or government.
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