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  • Michigan lost their best OL because he hates Rod....

    ...and he apparently (he's from Columbus) wants to transfer to Ohio State.



    Boren changes tune about UM program; may end up at Ohio State
    Boren


    By JOE VARDON
    BLADE SPORTS WRITER



    If Justin Boren had serious problems with Michigan football under new coach Rich

    Rodriguez, he succeeded in hiding it the last time he spoke publicly.

    Boren, a would-be junior offensive guard who told Rodriguez on Monday he was leaving the team, on Wednesday e-mailed a statement to some media outlets that said the program's "family values have eroded."


    But when Boren was one of three players the UM media relations department made available for interviews following the Wolverines' first spring practice on March 15, he described ways in which Rodriguez and his staff were building bonds between players and coaches.


    Speaking about an offseason program in which Wolverines assistants broke the team down into smaller groups that competed against one another in academic and athletic events, Boren said: "It was a cool thing."

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    He described a specific portion of that offseason program, called the Wolverine Olympics, in which those smaller groups competed in events like egg-eating contests and relay races, as "kind of a team-bonding thing."


    Boren, a 6-foot-3, 310-pounder who started all 13 games for UM last year at either center or left guard, also referred on March 15 to the challenges linemen faced in having to constantly run to the line of scrimmage in Rodriguez's spread-option offense.


    But when asked what it was like to actually practice under Rodriguez and his staff - made up mostly of his assistants from his days at West Virginia - Boren said: "They're real intense, they're real involved with the practice, and I think that's a good thing. It's just going to take a while to get used to."


    To get in shape for Rodriguez's fast-paced offense, the players took part in a strenuous conditioning and weight-lifting program under the direction of new strength coach Mike Barwis.


    Boren said Barwis' program was different than what returning UM players were used to, but "after a couple weeks everybody bought in and it was real positive, positive the whole winter."


    And then on Wednesday, Boren said he needed to "stand up for what I know is right."


    "I wore the winged helmet with pride, whether we won or lost, whether things were going well or times were tough," he said in the prepared statement. "Michigan football was a family, built on mutual respect and support for each other from [former] coach [Lloyd] Carr on down. We knew it took the entire family, a team effort, and we all worked together. I have great trouble accept[ing] that those family values have eroded in just a few months.


    "That same helmet that I was raised on and proudly claimed for the last two years, now brings a completely different emotion to me, one that interferes with practicing and playing my best and [being] mentally prepared for what is required.


    "That I am unable to perform under these circumstances at the level I expect of myself and my teammates and Michigan fans deserve is why I have made the decision to leave. To those of you who are outside the program, the loyal Michigan fans and alumni, I know you will have trouble understanding, but I do want to thank you for your years of support. I wish my teammates the best and will always be proud to have been a part of Michigan football over the past two years."


    In a report published yesterday in the Columbus Dispatch, Boren's father, Mike Boren, said his son will finish the semester at UM before transferring, and Ohio State was one place he could end up. The Borens live near
    Columbus in Pickerington, and Justin's brother, Zach, is a linebacker and fullback for Pickerington North who is being recruited by the Buckeyes.


    Numerous phone calls to the Boren household made by The Blade since Tuesday night have not been returned.


    Mike Boren played linebacker for the Wolverines in the early 1980s, and Justin's mother, Hope Boren, ran track at UM.


    Justin made All-Big Ten honorable mention as a sophomore last year. He was a Parade All-American while at Pickerington North, and was ranked as the top center prospect in the nation by recruiting Web site Rivals.com.
    Comical.
    You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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    • #3
      More recent photo of Justin Boren

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      • #4
        Expected response from a Michigan fan...

        With that out of the way, I think this raises red flags...Boren is a kid who grew up a Wolverine, his dad played there under Bo Schembechler and even though Ohio State recruited him pretty hard and he was a Columbus kid - it was pretty obvious where he was headed all along. Rod may turn out to be the savior before all is said and done, but to lose this type of kid should really bother anyone who cares about Michigan football.
        You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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        • #5
          Obviously I have no great love at this point for Rod, and people here in WV are lapping up the "family values" bit, but I wonder....

          Rod and his staff definitely have an edge to their personality. They yell and scream and curse a lot. Sounds to me like Carr and his guys didn't coach that way and this kid didn't appreciate all the shouting.

          He was also probably being forced to run more than he ever has in his life, since Rod likes lighter, quicker linemen.

          But the "family values" thing is a huge hit here.


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Charlie Sheen View Post
            Expected response from a Michigan fan...

            With that out of the way, I think this raises red flags...Boren is a kid who grew up a Wolverine, his dad played there under Bo Schembechler and even though Ohio State recruited him pretty hard and he was a Columbus kid - it was pretty obvious where he was headed all along. Rod may turn out to be the savior before all is said and done, but to lose this type of kid should really bother anyone who cares about Michigan football.
            not a Michigan fan....based on what I've read, I just think the kid couldn't hack Rod's different approach and quit.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kconn View Post
              Obviously I have no great love at this point for Rod, and people here in WV are lapping up the "family values" bit, but I wonder....

              Rod and his staff definitely have an edge to their personality. They yell and scream and curse a lot. Sounds to me like Carr and his guys didn't coach that way and this kid didn't appreciate all the shouting.

              He was also probably being forced to run more than he ever has in his life, since Rod likes lighter, quicker linemen.

              But the "family values" thing is a huge hit here.
              There were rumors going around of Rod calling out Boren and a couple of others in front of the whole team and stating he doesn't want any "fat fucking linemen" on his team.

              Is the kid being sensitive? Probably. But he also went to Michigan feeling comfortable with his coach, who like you said offered a completely different approach.
              You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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              • #8
                Perhaps he can follow his qb to Arkansas.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Charlie Sheen View Post
                  There were rumors going around of Rod calling out Boren and a couple of others in front of the whole team and stating he doesn't want any "fat fucking linemen" on his team.

                  Is the kid being sensitive? Probably. But he also went to Michigan feeling comfortable with his coach, who like you said offered a completely different approach.
                  Funny, I was going to say something in my post about being called a "fat motherfucker" but I had no reason to suspect those actual words... until now...

                  My point would be, I don't think it raises any red flags. You are ALWAYS going to have attrition with a coaching change. Like you said, Boren went to Michigan to play for different people. Some guys are not going to be happy trying to adapt to a new regime.

                  Rich can be abrasive. Some guys can't handle it. Part of me wishes there were more to it, and Michigan would fall apart under Rich, but I doubt it.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tallahassee blues fan View Post
                    Perhaps he can follow his qb to Arkansas.
                    Boren with 2 years of eligibility remaining, having a full year of Big 10 experience under his belt (honorable mention all conference as a soph), would seem to be able to have his pick of top programs.

                    Ohio State may miss out on him because he'd have to walk on and pay his own way here, since kids aren't able to transfer within conference and receive a scholly.
                    You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kconn View Post
                      Funny, I was going to say something in my post about being called a "fat motherfucker" but I had no reason to suspect those actual words... until now...

                      My point would be, I don't think it raises any red flags. You are ALWAYS going to have attrition with a coaching change. Like you said, Boren went to Michigan to play for different people. Some guys are not going to be happy trying to adapt to a new regime.

                      Rich can be abrasive. Some guys can't handle it. Part of me wishes there were more to it, and Michigan would fall apart under Rich, but I doubt it.
                      I agree with all. I wish this was a huge deal, but he is introducing pretty major changes and it would've been tough to expect all of that to go smoothly. I think he'll end up doing fine at Michigan, but it's going to be a rocky road for a couple of years until he gets his guys in there.
                      You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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                      • #12
                        non-issue. Boren is a solid player, won't say he's not. Thing is though, the new regime is a completely different beast. Fat, sloppy and strong has given way to Lean, quick, and endurance. Not everybody is gonna be happy in that program. The ones who defect won't be missed.
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                        • #13
                          alright, i don't give a shit about michigan or tosu or this dude, but how do you go to one of the two and then transfer to the other? if you're a michigan player, you hate ohio st and if you're an ohio st player, you hate michigan. transfer if you must, but not to your main rival.

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                          • #14
                            Ship Boren to the Buckeyes:

                            OSU football: Boren's transfer sure to add spice to rivalry

                            Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:27 AM
                            By Tim May


                            The Columbus Dispatch

                            Offensive lineman Justin Boren has decided to transfer from Michigan to Ohio State, and OSU football historian Jack Park thinks it is an unprecedented move.

                            Citing disenchantment with the new Michigan coaching staff of Rich Rodriguez, Boren -- a sophomore starter in 2007 -- left the Wolverines last month. Coach Jim Tressel confirmed for The Dispatch last night that Boren, who attended Pickerington North, intends to play for the Buckeyes after sitting out the 2008 season because of NCAA transfer rules.

                            "It's exciting to be coming back home to central Ohio," Boren, who just finished the spring semester at Michigan, said in a statement through Tressel. "I am looking forward to the chance to help the Buckeyes continue their excellence in any way I can."

                            Tressel welcomed the transfer. Because of Big Ten rules, Boren can never be on scholarship at OSU.

                            "Justin is a fine young man and an excellent football player," Tressel said. "We are happy that he has decided to continue his career at Ohio State and ultimately earn his degree in his hometown."

                            Park, considered the walking encyclopedia of OSU football, said he can't recall another high-profile player transferring from Michigan to Ohio State, and certainly not since World War II.

                            "He is just one player, but I think it's a major moment (in the history of the rivalry)," Park said. "Just that it would happen is one thing. Then you throw in the fact his father (Mike Boren, who played linebacker for Bo Schembechler) had been at Michigan just makes it all the more interesting."

                            Park pointed out that two players in the 1940s started their college careers at OSU, went to World War II, then played at Michigan upon their return. Howard Yerges Jr. was the starting quarterback and J.T. White the starting center for the Wolverines' 1947 national championship team.
                            Charlie Sheen
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                            Last edited by Charlie Sheen; 04-23-2008, 03:42 PM.
                            You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Charlie Sheen View Post
                              Ship Boren to the Buckeyes:
                              Way to became one of the most hated people in the upper Midwest.

                              My advice is to never leave the state of Ohio.
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                              For more than 20 years I have endeavored-indeed, I have struggled-along with a majority of this Court, to develop procedural & substantive rules that would lend more than the mere appearance of fairness to the death penalty endeavor.


                              I feel morally and intellectually obligated simply to concede that the death penalty experiment has failed.

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