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  • John McCain's foreign policy "experience"--"unfit for duty?"

    03.19.08 -- 12:53PM // link | recommend (12)
    Unfit for Duty

    Let me follow up on this McCain gaffe in which he got confused and claimed that al Qaeda was getting trained and equipped by Iran before doing mischief in Iraq, before being corrected by his senate colleague Joe Lieberman.
    Let's start by stipulating that if Barack Obama had had this slip up it would be everywhere on the news for the next week. Pretty much the same if it had been Hillary Clinton.
    But this is really just the tip of the iceberg with McCain. In almost every discussion of foreign policy, not just today but in previous years, what stands out is McCain's inability to see beyond the immediate issues of military tactics to any firm grasp of strategy or America's real vital interests. His free willingness to commit to a decades long occupation of Iraq is an example, his push for ground troops to be introduced during the Kosovo War is another. His refusal, almost inability, to grapple with the political failure of the surge is the most telling one if people will sift through its deeper implications.
    The idea that fighting jihadists in Iraq or policing the country's sectarian and ethnic disputes is the calling of this century is one that is belied in virtually everything we see in flux in today's world and which seems certain to affect us through the rest of our lifetimes and our children's.
    It is very difficult to draw practical lessons from history. But one of the closest things to a law is that military power is almost always built on economic might. And the former seldom long outlasts the latter. Indeed, countries with sound finances have routinely been able to punch over their weight -- great Britain and the Netherlands during different periods are key examples. So fiscal soundness even over the medium term is much more important than any particular weapon system or basing right.
    Then you step back and see the huge number of dollars we're pouring into Iraq, the vast mountains of capital being piled up in China, the oil-fueled resurgence of Russia, the weakness of the dollar (not only in exchange rate but in its future as a reserve currency), the rising tide of anti-Americanism around the world. I don't think I've ever heard anything from John McCain that suggests he's given serious consideration to any of these issues, except as possible near term military challenges -- i.e., is China building a blue water navy to challenge the US, Russian weapons systems, etc.
    Candidly, I do not think I've heard sufficient discussions or solutions to these challenges from my preferred candidates. But neither has the myopia that McCain has about Iraq. Or the willingness to spend -- how else to put it -- like a drunken sailor in that country at the expense of everything else now going on in the world.
    Hillary Clinton has stipulated to McCain's qualifications as Commander-in-Chief; and Obama, implicitly, does the same. But his record actually shows he's one of the most dangerous people we could have in the Oval Office in coming years -- not just because he's a hothead in using the military, but more because he seems genuinely clueless about the real challenges and dangers the country is facing. He's too busy living in the fantasy world where our future as a great power and our very safety are all bound up in Iraq.
    --Josh Marshall
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  • #2
    Wait. Iran isn't supporting Al-Qaeda? You mean Bush and Cheney are wrong? Can't be.

    Moon

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    • #3
      Experience...another buzz word used by my mother in law.

      Lack thereof in the argument for Obama...

      I used it in a sentence; McCain has the experience of serving the war, but unfortunately, shares the same myopic vision for Iraq as GWB...

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      • #4
        this could become the buzzing story-----

        Obama: Confused McCain has no strategy

        Obama just pivoted off race as sharply has he could: by picking a fight with John McCain over Iraq.
        In his speech in North Carolina today, Obama noted McCain's confusion yesterday between Sunni and Shiites, and said that McCain is focused on tactics to the exclusion of strategy.
        In his sharpest passage, he suggested that McCain's misunderstanding of the Middle East is why he supported the war in the first place — a sharp jab, though not really a serious contention:
        Just yesterday, we heard Sen. McCain confuse Sunni and Shiite, Iran and Al Qaeda. Maybe that is why he voted to go to war with a country that had no Al Qaeda ties. Maybe that is why he completely fails to understand that the war in Iraq has done more to embolden America’s enemies than any strategic choice that we have made in decades.
        Also:
        That is what Sen. McCain wants to discuss — tactics. What he and the administration have failed to present is an overarching strategy: how the war in Iraq enhances our long-term security, or will in the future. That’s why this administration cannot answer the simple question posed by Sen. John Warner in hearings last year: Are we safer because of this war? And that is why Sen. McCain can argue — as he did last year — that we couldn’t leave Iraq because violence was up, and then argue this year that we can’t leave Iraq because violence is down.

        When you have no overarching strategy, there is no clear definition of success. Success comes to be defined as the ability to maintain a flawed policy indefinitely. Here is the truth: Fighting a war without end will not force the Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future. And fighting in a war without end will not make the American people safer.

        So when I am commander in chief, I will set a new goal on Day One: I will end this war. Not because politics compels it. Not because our troops cannot bear the burden — as heavy as it is. But because it is the right thing to do for our national security, and it will ultimately make us safer.
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        • #5
          I can't wait for an Obama-McCain debate.

          I wonder if the old man will just get fed up and take a swing at him.
          His mind is not for rent, to any god or government.
          Pointless debate is what we do here -- lvr

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          • #6
            This thread saved by...Meghan McCain...


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            • #7
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              • #8
                Let me follow up on this McCain gaffe in which he got confused and claimed that al Qaeda was getting trained and equipped by Iran before doing mischief in Iraq, before being corrected by his senate colleague Joe Lieberman.

                Let's start by stipulating that if Barack Obama had had this slip up it would be everywhere on the news for the next week. Pretty much the same if it had been Hillary Clinton.
                I don't doubt this for a second. The media loves McCain. Must be those bulldog jowls of his.
                “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.”

                Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in.

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                • #9
                  esterday, 01:06 PM
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                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by kjoe
                  He handled it. It did not have to be perfect---but it was really good---enough so that the media will find something else to obsess about soon. This guy has been no pushover, when it comes to political maneuvering---that 56 favorable rating for McCain---enjoy it while you can, republicans. If you think he is going to have an easy time with Obama because of the vast difference in foreign policy experience---think again.

                  Obama remains a formidable opponent.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by moedrabowsky View Post
                    I can't wait for an Obama-McCain debate.

                    I wonder if the old man will just get fed up and take a swing at him.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by hkyfan View Post
                      Is that a young Stockdale?
                      His mind is not for rent, to any god or government.
                      Pointless debate is what we do here -- lvr

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kah View Post
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 007 View Post
                          This thread saved by...Meghan McCain...

                          Strategically placed laptop conveys the sense of technological savviness and covers the fupa.

                          Moon

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                          • #14
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                            • #15
                              His mind is not for rent, to any god or government.
                              Pointless debate is what we do here -- lvr

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