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  • Pay attention--election might be decided tomorrow.

    From a lawyer buddy of mine:

    The DC Primary is tomorrow...

    ....And only 9 people vote.

    District of Columbia v. Heller is being argued tomorrow. If you didn't know, one of the issues in this case is whether the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution guarantees an individual right, at the federal level, to own firearms, or whether the right is collective, meaning essentially that no one has such a right. The case is much more complex than that, and the Supreme Court's decision need not address state issues, and there are ways to weasel around the core issue, but...

    If the Court holds, before November, that there is no individual right, before November, Hillary Clinton and/or Barack Obama might as well be George McGovern or Howard Dean. An avalanche will sweep large states with substantial rural and gun-owning populations like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Michigan, and Florida, not to mention largeish mid-sized states like Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, and Missouri, destroying all Democrats in its path.

    If the Court finds an individual right before November, politics resumes as usual.

    Isn't it wonderful that we have an apolitical Supreme Court?
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    How would the conservative Supreme Court making a decision of that nature hurt the Democrats?
    On my mind: How can I shut up the singing English graduate student? How many more lossess will KU's basketball team have than its football team? How will the Rams front office screw up this year?


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    • #3
      We do have an apolitical Supreme Court. They'll only prove otherwise if their decision depends on the political ramifications.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Airshark View Post
        We do have an apolitical Supreme Court.
        On my mind: How can I shut up the singing English graduate student? How many more lossess will KU's basketball team have than its football team? How will the Rams front office screw up this year?


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        • #5
          I don't see an issue here

          The Republicans appointed 7 justices and the Dems 2 -

          They will make a fair decision in the best interest of the country.

          Just like agreeing to hear the Florida hanging chad thing.
          Turning the other cheek is better than burying the other body.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Airshark View Post
            We do have an apolitical Supreme Court.


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            • #7
              They are going to hear the case today...if they deliberate and have a decision today, I'd be shocked...

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              • #8
                IN!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Airshark View Post
                  We do have an apolitical Supreme Court. They'll only prove otherwise if their decision depends on the political ramifications.
                  Bush v Gore, 5 v 4
                  From this day forward, I no longer shall tinker with the machinery of death.

                  For more than 20 years I have endeavored-indeed, I have struggled-along with a majority of this Court, to develop procedural & substantive rules that would lend more than the mere appearance of fairness to the death penalty endeavor.


                  I feel morally and intellectually obligated simply to concede that the death penalty experiment has failed.

                  The path the Court has chosen lessens us all. I dissent.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ppg shg View Post
                    Bush v Gore, 5 v 4
                    Which proves what? That they made the decision because of who they wanted to win? Or because the majority thought they were making the legally correct decision?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Airshark View Post
                      That they made the decision because of who they wanted to win?
                      This.
                      From this day forward, I no longer shall tinker with the machinery of death.

                      For more than 20 years I have endeavored-indeed, I have struggled-along with a majority of this Court, to develop procedural & substantive rules that would lend more than the mere appearance of fairness to the death penalty endeavor.


                      I feel morally and intellectually obligated simply to concede that the death penalty experiment has failed.

                      The path the Court has chosen lessens us all. I dissent.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 007 View Post
                        They are going to hear the case today...if they deliberate and have a decision today, I'd be shocked...
                        Yes, don't they usually take 4-6 months to render a decision? Anyway, the chance that this Supreme Court makes a broad ruling against individual gun ownership is as about as likely as Braden Looper winning a Cy Young.
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                          IN!!!!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by chiguy View Post
                            How would the conservative Supreme Court making a decision of that nature hurt the Democrats?
                            Because people don't pay attention to the details, all they will hear is how we need republicans in office, all paid for by the NRA.
                            Be passionate about what you believe in, or why bother.

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                            • #15
                              The second the government takes away my right to own a gun is the very second I know I'm going to need one.
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