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    In Cayahoga alone---kerry won by 227 thousand votes---he lost the state by 118 thousand.
    Last edited by kjoe; 03-07-2008, 01:10 AM.
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      Clinton, I think, ironically.

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        Either
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          McCain as long as he keeps saying he is a "free trader" will lose to either one of them, but to Obama by more. The Clintons are the parents of NAFTA.
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            Looking at those numbers, it seems apparent for the Democrat that whoever brings out the base will win Ohio.

            Kerry won almost 60% of the independents in Ohio. It's hard to see much improvement on that number. Rather, it seems that the Democrat simply must get more self-identified Democrats to vote, and possibly pick up some Republican votes.

            At this point, it's too early to tell who will best motivate the base in November. Depends on how the nomination goes down.
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              Both have already lost me to McCain.
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                Thanks for the responses. This thing about whether black voters devoted to Obama or female voters devoted to Hillary will sit out the election, or scale down their efforts---anything that significantly alters turnout in November has states where it is more important than other states. Ohio is one, that is why I took a closer look at it.

                I hope Obama is able to win---without it seeming to be the result of a co-ercive threat from his level of black support.

                If Hillary wins---it will have to be with a clear perception that she has a better chance of beating McCain. Any other way of prevailing will make her lose in places like Ohio.

                Answering my question in the title---at this time, it looks like the answer would be Clinton.
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                  Among all the crap kjoe posted in his first entry was something that keeps making my computer tell me that Internet Explorer is blocking an ActiveX control.
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                    Originally posted by madyaks View Post
                    McCain as long as he keeps saying he is a "free trader" will lose to either one of them, but to Obama by more. The Clintons are the parents of NAFTA.
                    Didn't seem to matter.
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                      Goddammit, I keep forgetting, and I keep getting that stupid ActiveX control.
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                        Originally posted by kah View Post
                        Goddammit, I keep forgetting, and I keep getting that stupid ActiveX control.
                        change your browser controls or switch to Firefox

                        I never IE at home anymore.
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                            The Democrats could run Osama in Ohio, and still win.


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