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  • The Failure of America and the Democratic Party

    The failure of America is that it doesn't live up to its promise of opportunity for everyone. It says there is opportunity for everyone but in reality there is only opportunity for those that are chosen. The majority of the opportunity goes to those at the top of the food chain the rich, and the least to those at the bottom, the poor.

    The current president has taken 9/11 and turned it into an unpopular war abroad and a recession at home. At a time when his party should be reeling they are high fiving all over the place. The Democrats can't agree on who should run for president.

    The democratic party managed to promote two individuals to the top of the ticket. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. This was a very good thing. The party is sure to have either the countries first women candidate or the first Black candidate to be nominated by a serious party in history.

    The selection process has not been so good after narrowing it down to 2 people. Indeed, the negative campaign's of mostly the Clintons are threatening to initiate a full scale meltdown of the party.

    It is a race between race and gender and it shouldn't be. People talk issues but then vote race. People talk opportunity but then vote gender. People talk peace but then vote fear.

    From the beginning the Obama campaign out of necessity has preached coalition. The Clinton campaign had assumed her nomination until it was almost too late and now she is talking about fear.

    Fear that a man - older than her husband was when he took office would lack the skills necessary to handle the country. Fear that he might be a muslim. Fear that he might be making backdoor deals with Canada.

    Her message of fear gave her 3 states yesterday - but it's cost to the party was great. No more illusions about the Clintons doing was best for anyone - other than themselves.

    The sad commentary is had she fought for some of the little states along the way - this race would probably be over in her favor. She basically gave away states after Super Tuesday because of some insane thought that those delegates were somehow less valuable.

    Clinton is smart enough and experienced enough to be president - she has had horrible advice. It placed her in the position of being desperate. Desperate peolple have high reward and also high regret. Right now she is looking in the mirror and realizing she doesn't have enough to win as it stands.

    She must go even more negative and hope her opposition crumbles. She must ask for Delegates from two states that she knew wouldn't count be counted. She began her speech last night by saying I have won these states and listed both Florida and Michigan despite little real opposition.

    She wants it both ways - to be a victim of gender bashing - while bashing Obama's gender and race. She wants to disenfranchise every other state that followed the rules except for Florida and Michigan who must not be disenfranchised because it's now a close race.

    She wants women to vote for her because she is a woman running against a man and the glass ceiling but Blacks to vote for her because she is the best person for the job. She wants whites to not vote for someone who may be a christian as far as she knows.

    She wants Obama to stop saying he opposed the War when he clearly did and she wants her vote to not really count. She wants him to stop giving speeches because she can't match his rallies. She says she offers solutions even though her and his positions on 95% of all subjects is exactly the same. Her speech is - he doesn't give solutions but I do. She offers no more solutions than he does she just says it.

    The end result is a party that can only deliver on the promise of opportunity by motion and not deed. Someone will have to do something right and selfless to let the party move forward. Neither side seems to be willing to entertain that thought. A sure win has degenerated into a scrum.

    The winner is likely to look as muddy as the loser and have damaged their chances to win in November.
    Turning the other cheek is better than burying the other body.

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    I didn't read most of that, but let's elect Clinton or Obama this November and then check back in a couple of years.
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    • #3
      Go fuck yourself and all your handout/reparation loving friends!

      TTB/Airshark/Far/Reggie

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Moon Man View Post
        Go fuck yourself and all your handout/reparation loving friends!

        TTB/Airshark/Far/Reggie
        You have no idea--no idea--how much it pains me to see all this infighting among Democrats. I mean, it's almost a physical pain, like reading Yaks' posts.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Reggie Cleveland View Post
          You have no idea--no idea--how much it pains me to see all this infighting among Democrats. I mean, it's almost a physical pain, like reading Yaks' posts.
          Typing with one hand can do that.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Reggie Cleveland View Post
            You have no idea--no idea--how much it pains me to see all this infighting among Democrats. I mean, it's almost a physical pain, like reading Yaks' posts.
            And here I thought this had been a mild primary. Obama and Hillary wouldn't even say a bad word about each other a month ago.

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            • #7
              Obama lost three primaries last night and now America has failed.

              Can we get a little historical perspective on presidential elections please?

              The only thing that makes this primary season special is that America might have a woman or black candidate in the November presidential election. They are both politicians. They both have dirty friends and unsavory connections. They both probably want whats best for America but most importantly need to feed an ego that can only be fulfilled by becoming POTUS. This whole idea that if Obama is rejected as the nominee then the nation is somehow tarnished is just getting frickin' old. You think he's the first (let alone best) candidate that might not become president?
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              • #8
                Whoever wins in 08 is going to face a terrible crisis, anyhow.
                Make America Great For Once.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hkyfan View Post
                  Obama lost three primaries last night and now America has failed.
                  The hyperbole I see on this board never ceases to amaze me.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JWB View Post
                    The hyperbole I see on this board never ceases to amaze me.
                    Did you even read the first post in this thread? And you quote my line as hyperbole? That's rich.

                    People need to get a grip.
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                    • #11
                      considering some of the rags to riches stories i've read about that could only happen here, i gotta disagree with some of that

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by hkyfan View Post
                        Did you even read the first post in this thread? And you quote my line as hyperbole? That's rich.

                        People need to get a grip.
                        Whoa there, I was agreeing with you, hky.

                        My comment was about the first post.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MsFunkay View Post
                          considering some of the rags to riches stories i've read about that could only happen here, i gotta disagree with some of that
                          You're not suggesting personal responsibility I hope? If there's failure there must be blame somewhere. And if all else fails, blame America.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JWB View Post
                            Whoa there, I was agreeing with you, hky.

                            My comment was about the first post.

                            Settle down, mein freund

                            My apologies JWB. Just some of the ridiculous things I have seen the past two days has me over the edge. The irony is that while the primary process sucks we are on the verge of new ground in the Democratic Party. For the first time in history a woman or black man will be a candidate for president. I really didn't think I would see it in my lifetime. Of course, I'm older.
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                            • #15
                              as a republican that hasnt paid much attention to the whole dem side of this primary season, what if.....

                              what if neither hillary or barrack get the needed delegates to win the nomination outright, but barrack has a slight edge going into the convention. but then these democratic "super delegates" (whose whole purpose i cant comprehend) give the nomination to hillary.

                              how long till the riots start?
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