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    I'm 100% for getting rid of drunk driving, but I'm against adding even more clutter to this state's highways.





    Bill calls for drunk-driving warning signs
    By Lee Logan
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    03/01/2008

    JEFFERSON CITY — A St. Louis woman is pushing for a memorial-sign program she says would raise awareness of people killed each year by drunken driving.

    The proposal would allow families of those killed in alcohol-related accidents to pay $1,040 for a 2-by-3-foot sign that would be placed near the accident site for 10 years.

    Gail Rehme said the program would honor her brother David, who was killed by a drunk driver in 1984 on his way home from a Cardinals game. RELATED LINK
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    "That pain is still here," she said. "It never goes away." Advertisement

    The House passed a bill to create the program by a vote of 82-51 this week. The bill now goes to the Senate.

    The signs would model a Missouri license plate and include the phrases, "Drunk Driving Victim!" and "Who's Next?" They would be personalized with the person's initials and the date he or she died.

    The bill is sponsored by Rep. Bill Deeken, R-Jefferson City. A companion bill was filed in the Senate by Sen. Tim Green, D-Spanish Lake.

    "It's going to make a point," Deeken said. "Some people will think, 'I wonder if that person going 80 mph behind me is drunk?'"

    Deeken said drunken driving caused roughly half of all highway deaths in 2006.

    Critics of the plan say the signs would add to roadway clutter and do little to curb drunken driving.

    The state Department of Transportation would administer the program. The bill would ban people from putting up their own memorials.

    MoDOT spokesman Jeff Briggs said homemade signs already are prohibited but that the department tries to leave them up as long as they do not pose a safety or visibility threat.

    Although MoDOT is officially neutral on the bill, he said the sign program would be a safe alternative.

    Rehme said she thought of the program about six years ago.

    "It was close to the 20th anniversary of my brother's death, and I wanted to do something special," she said.

    Last summer, Rehme set up a nonprofit that she hopes will cover the signs' cost.

    "No family will ever have to worry about the price of the marker," she said. "We've been through enough."

    The bill is HB1406.
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  • #2
    OK, so not only has a member of my family been killed by a drunk driver - but if I want to tell people about it, I have to pay $1040 to have a sign?

    Have the costs for the signs come from the guy that was doing the drunk driving...not the family who lost someone.
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    • #3
      I'd rather give a convicted drunk driver a special license plate that says "convicted for DUI/DWI" as opposed to putting up one more sign on Missouri's roads.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bleacher Creature View Post
        I'd rather give a convicted drunk driver a special license plate that says "convicted for DUI/DWI"
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bleacher Creature View Post
          I'd rather give a convicted drunk driver a special license plate that says "convicted for DUI/DWI" as opposed to putting up one more sign on Missouri's roads.
          True - I didn't even think of that option!
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          Lois Lane: What's the general opinion of a gal asking the guy out?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bleacher Creature View Post
            I'd rather give a convicted drunk driver a special license plate that says "convicted for DUI/DWI" as opposed to putting up one more sign on Missouri's roads.
            Let me correct one thing. I would not "give" them this. If they want to drive legally, they must pay $250 to get their special vanity plate. Use those funds towards more drunken driving awareness.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bleacher Creature View Post
              Let me correct one thing. I would not "give" them this. If they want to drive legally, they must pay $250 to get their special vanity plate. Use those funds towards more drunken driving awareness.
              I think instead of writing "convicted for DWI/DUI" it could just be a different design that easily discernable from the regular MO style. Kind of like Cardinals or Blues license plates, make it a different design, so that more people make notice of it without being bothered by reading. Good idea though.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by marco View Post
                I think instead of writing "convicted for DWI/DUI" it could just be a different design that easily discernable from the regular MO style. Kind of like Cardinals or Blues license plates, make it a different design, so that more people make notice of it without being bothered by reading. Good idea though.


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                • #9
                  They should make a sweet one for Lounger
                  25MM jobs in 10 years / 4% GDP Growth / Insurance for everybody / Schools flush with cash don't produce results
                  Jan 2017: 4.7% U-3, 9.2% U-6, 62.7% LFPR, 5.2% Real Wages, 2.6% GDP, 19,827 DJIA, 2,271 S&P500, $2.316/gal

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by marco View Post
                    They should make a sweet one for Lounger
                    You can get your own specialty plates from MO.
                    It costs a bit to start and you need a minimum of 250 people wanting one. something along those lines.
                    Be passionate about what you believe in, or why bother.

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                    • #11
                      The license plate issue would seem easy to circumvent...for example, if you're married, have your spouse register the vehicle and get the plates...
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                      • #12
                        Amend the law so that it is less likely to happen. Anyone allowing a person convicted of DUI/DWI to operate your vehicle while not in a circumstance of emergency is subject to a fine. Something along those lines. And even then, I don't know that it needs to be fool proof, there may be enough inconvience provided that it may accomplish its intended mission.
                        25MM jobs in 10 years / 4% GDP Growth / Insurance for everybody / Schools flush with cash don't produce results
                        Jan 2017: 4.7% U-3, 9.2% U-6, 62.7% LFPR, 5.2% Real Wages, 2.6% GDP, 19,827 DJIA, 2,271 S&P500, $2.316/gal

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JK_STLfan_in_DFW View Post
                          The license plate issue would seem easy to circumvent...for example, if you're married, have your spouse register the vehicle and get the plates...
                          ...or do like SD ddi; He took the front plate off his current wife's car and had it on his Explorer. He NEVER registered it (the explorer that is), never paid sales tax on it, never paid pers. prop. tax on it, NEVER had plates for it. He just piled 6 kids into it and drove them around. (2 of those kids should be in car seats)

                          He just traded it in for a truck - so now he will have to do something for plates on it since car and truck plates differ. I'm guessing he will go and steel someones and put them on his truck. I'm wondering how he is fitting 6 kids in the truck and 3 of the 6 are teenagers plust the 2 car seats earlier mentioned, etc.

                          I'll just worry about my kids when they have to ride in the bed (as I'm sure he will tell them to lay down so no one sees them...

                          No matter what anyone decides, someone will find a way to get around it...that's a given.
                          Feb. 08, 2005
                          Lois Lane: What's the general opinion of a gal asking the guy out?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nsane2Bme View Post
                            ...or do like SD ddi; He took the front plate off his current wife's car and had it on his Explorer. He NEVER registered it (the explorer that is), never paid sales tax on it, never paid pers. prop. tax on it, NEVER had plates for it. He just piled 6 kids into it and drove them around. (2 of those kids should be in car seats)

                            He just traded it in for a truck - so now he will have to do something for plates on it since car and truck plates differ. I'm guessing he will go and steel someones and put them on his truck. I'm wondering how he is fitting 6 kids in the truck and 3 of the 6 are teenagers plust the 2 car seats earlier mentioned, etc.

                            I'll just worry about my kids when they have to ride in the bed (as I'm sure he will tell them to lay down so no one sees them...

                            No matter what anyone decides, someone will find a way to get around it...that's a given.

                            There's no fail proof system, but make the penalty so severe when they're caught, they'd wish they had never seen an alcohlic drink.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bleacher Creature View Post
                              There's no fail proof system, but make the penalty so severe when they're caught, they'd wish they had never seen an alcohlic drink.
                              I hear ya, I know what you are saying...unfortunately, it's just not that easy and never will be either.
                              Feb. 08, 2005
                              Lois Lane: What's the general opinion of a gal asking the guy out?

                              Forever
                              Lounge sponsor of YYZ and his Mardi Gras crew.
                              Originally posted by Airshark
                              NSane has already won - because the Sharks are well and truly ef'ed.

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