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    I wonder did either of these men really have a choice but to serve under Hitler's regime.

    IMO, the US Justice Dept. has alot more pressing matters before them, than to uproot these two elderly men.

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    Ex-Nazi's case could take years
    By Peter Shinkle
    Of the Post-Dispatch
    02/26/2004


    Lengthy appeals could give an 82-year-old former Nazi concentration camp guard - stripped this week of his citizenship - at least years before being deported, judging from another St. Louis area case.

    Adam Friedrich, a retired clothing manufacturing worker from St. Louis, illegally entered the United States by hiding the fact that he was a Waffen SS guard at three camps, a federal judge ruled here Wednesday.

    The circumstances of another former Nazi camp guard, Michael Negele of St. Peters, show just how long deportation can take.

    In 1997, the Justice Department filed suit against Negele, claiming he, too, had obscured his membership in the Waffen SS. In 1999, a federal judge ruled Negele had entered the country illegally and removed Negele's citizenship.

    He appealed to the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals and lost. In February 2001 the Supreme Court refused to hear the case.


    With Negele's citizenship finally lost, the Department of Justice moved to the next phase: filing documents to remove him. The case went before a federal immigration judge, who ruled he must be deported.

    This time, he appealed to a body of the Justice Department, the Executive Office for Immigration Review. On August 28, 2003, Negele lost that case, too.

    Then he appealed back to the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals, where the issue is pending. Negele's case is tentatively set for arguments in April before a panel of appeals judges - nearly seven years after the Justice Department first took action against him.

    Karen Aroesty, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League for Missouri and Southern Illinois, said the lengthy process is "appropriate" given the seriousness of the charges. "Ultimately, justice will be served," she said.

    But it appears that Negele's attorney, Warren Hoff Jr., who now also represents Friedrich, has taken steps to slow Negele's case.

    After Hoff filed the most recent appeal in the 8th Circuit, the court issued a schedule setting out deadlines for him and opposing attorneys to file documents.

    The first was due Oct. 14. That day, Hoff filed papers asking the appeals court to issue a new schedule, on grounds that the original failed to require the government to file records from the immigration case.

    The court denied the delay, ruling that its original schedule indeed did require filing of the records. But the court also gave Hoff an extra month to file his brief. Hoff later got another delay, pointing to "the press of other business."

    In his brief, Hoff says that Negele is in "infirm health," although he does not elaborate.

    Hoff could not be reached for comment.

    In Friedrich's case, as in Negele's, Hoff contends his client did not take direct steps to persecute people, and thus insists that service as a concentration camp guard does not make it illegal to enter the United States.

    The Justice Department said Thursday it would consider deportation proceedings against Friedrich after consulting the State Department. It was not clear how the government came to focus on Friedrich and Negele, who had lived in the United States for decades.

    In his brief on behalf of Negele, Hoff claims Hitler "standardized the administration of terror" to such an extent that it "would not have been seen to someone such as (Negele) to be nearly as odious a task as one would see it today."

    Reporter Peter Shinkle:
    E-mail: [email protected]
    Phone: 314-621-5804
    Make America Great For Once.

  • #2
    Apt Pupil.
    When you say to your neighbor, "We're having a loud party on Saturday night if that's alright with you," what you really mean is, "We're having a loud party on Saturday night."

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    • #3
      All the frelling illegal immigrants in this country, and we have to deport 2 guys that have been here for almost 60 years???? What a waste...

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      • #4
        All you need to know is

        former Nazi concentration camp guard
        and

        illegally entered the United States by hiding the fact that he was a Waffen SS guard at three camps
        And no, in response to the initial post, it was hardly mandatory to join the SS, which was essentially the Nazi Party's private army.

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        • #5
          Ask Torch, he knows.

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          • #6
            [Pacey]This is a bunch of bullshit. He was never an SS guard. There is no such thing. Hell, there wasn't even a "Holocaust" for him to have been a part of. This is just another Jewish plot. Can't you see they control the media and government. Is it any wonder they blew up the WTC? What is wrong with you people. [/Pacey]
            When you say to your neighbor, "We're having a loud party on Saturday night if that's alright with you," what you really mean is, "We're having a loud party on Saturday night."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by WinstonSmith@Feb 27 2004, 11:04 AM
              [Pacey]This is a bunch of bullshit. He was never an SS guard. There is no such thing. Hell, there wasn't even a "Holocaust" for him to have been a part of. This is just another Jewish plot. Can't you see they control the media and government. Is it any wonder they blew up the WTC? What is wrong with you people. [/Pacey]
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              • #8
                there is a really weird immigration rule in regards to this.....for the longest time, you couldn't gain entry into the us if you were EVER a member of a communist party, but you were only excluded if you happened to be a nazi from 39-44 (so if you were a Nazi from 33, you're cool...they were trying to weed out the fair weather fascists).

                by the way, i'm fine with the deportation
                there are some things you don't get a second chance for
                Are you on the list?

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