Pitching Pairings for the Cub Series

[joe_w]

The Cubs have an open day the Thursday before the series starts which will permit them to skip Sergio Mitre's turn in the rotation. Assuming they want to do that (a good assumption, I think) here is how the matchups project:

Friday: Woody Williams v Matt Clement

Saturday: Jeff Suppan v Carlos Zambrano

Sunday: Matt Morris v Kerry Wood

Monday: Jason Marquis v Greg Maddux

In the event the Cubs want to keep Mitre in the rotation at the expense of the struggling Maddux, they could either match Sergio v Morris on Sunday and let Wood pitch Monday against Marquis. Or they could keep the Morris-Wood matchup on Sunday and pitch Mitre agains Marquis on Monday.

[Schwahalala]

Depends upon if Woody can get straight.

We got a chance in all four then.

[kaiser]

Looks like a split to me (he said hopefully).

Should be a fun series. Maybe La Russa and Baker will get in a real fight this time.

[cardinalgirl]

It looked like a split to me too...

[Schwahalala]

I see Morris and Marquis as slight favs

With Williams and Suppan as underdogs

[slow groove]

Originally posted by kaiser@Apr 22 2004, 12:05 PM
Looks like a split to me (he said hopefully).

Should be a fun series. Maybe La Russa and Baker will get in a real fight this time.

Cards will take 3 of 4. Barely.

Fairly evenly scored series. We have more to fight for. In addition to fighting for, hopefully, first place, we are fighting to restore our self respect and confidence after last september. As in Houston, retribution will flow freely through the players veins.

[kaiser]

Originally posted by slow groove@Apr 22 2004, 12:22 PM
Retribution will flow freely through the players veins as in Houston.

Hey, I like the sound of that.

The streets will flow with the blood of the non-believers. Vengance is mine, sayeth La Russa.

Here I was thinking it was baseball, and apparently it's war. Cool.

[bcruise]

I don't see Dusty flip-flopping the rotation this early (IIRC, a similar situation came up last year), so it'll probably be Maddux and not Mitre, as you listed above.

Some good matchups there:

- I'll give the first one to Clement although despite the 2.76 ERA, he's run into some trouble in the early innings. (Yes, that's the Homerol talking.)

- I like Zambrano over Suppan for us, he's been our best starter out of the gate.

- Wood vs. Morris should be a great one, no predictions there.

- Marquis vs. Maddux......I'll give that one to you guys, assuming Maddux doesn't pull it together (and he probably won't)

Just by the matchups, I see either a split or 3 out of 4 for the Cubs, with the Wood-Morris matchup being the swing game. However, after watching the offensive explosions of these two teams the last few days, those could get completely thrown out the window.

Should be a great series. It's still a ways off though - the Cubs have 3 against NY before traveling to Arizona for 3 more.

[SLUBLUE]

Cardinals 3, Cubs 1

[Cubs4ever]

Keep Mitre in, especially this early, as cruise said. It's not like he has been bad anyway. Maddux usually doesn't get hot quite yet, but he may to get hyped up for a big series like this. Split or 3 for the Cubs.

[slow groove]

Originally posted by kaiser+Apr 22 2004, 12:25 PM-->

QUOTE (kaiser @ Apr 22 2004, 12:25 PM)

fender tele Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 570 Share Tweet #12 04-22-2004, 02:06 PM Originally posted by slow groove+Apr 22 2004, 01:02 PM--> QUOTE (slow groove @ Apr 22 2004, 01:02 PM) Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 12:25 PM slow groove Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 41317 Share Tweet #13 04-22-2004, 02:09 PM Originally posted by bcruise@Apr 22 2004, 12:28 PM I don't see Dusty flip-flopping the rotation this early (IIRC, a similar situation came up last year), so it'll probably be Maddux and not Mitre, as you listed above. Some good matchups there: - I'll give the first one to Clement although despite the 2.76 ERA, he's run into some trouble in the early innings. (Yes, that's the Homerol talking.) - I like Zambrano over Suppan for us, he's been our best starter out of the gate. - Wood vs. Morris should be a great one, no predictions there. - Marquis vs. Maddux......I'll give that one to you guys, assuming Maddux doesn't pull it together (and he probably won't) Just by the matchups, I see either a split or 3 out of 4 for the Cubs, with the Wood-Morris matchup being the swing game. However, after watching the offensive explosions of these two teams the last few days, those could get completely thrown out the window. Should be a great series. It's still a ways off though - the Cubs have 3 against NY before traveling to Arizona for 3 more. Cruise... Homerism aside...can you honestly say you guys have faced pitching of ANY SIGNIFICANCE thus far in the season? I can't remember one team beginning the season with such a softball schedule in the past decade. And since this is the case...shouldn't the Cubs, even though it is early, be running away with this thing already? You'd think with their offense against these insufficient teams and their pitching they'd be 4 games ahead of the pack. Your thoughts. "Let me lay it right on the line. Bigotry and racism are among the deadliest social ills plaguing the world today. The only way to destroy them is to expose them. If man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our hearts with tolerance.- Stan Lee (circa 1968) "Compete less with the person in front of you than the person inside of you." - Anonymous Comment Post Cancel kaiser Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7025 Share Tweet #14 04-22-2004, 02:41 PM SG: The Cubs have had what would be considered an easy schedule so far, so I tend to agree with what you're saying. I'm always right. Comment Post Cancel bcruise Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 15399 Share Tweet #15 04-22-2004, 02:43 PM Originally posted by slow groove@Apr 22 2004, 02:09 PM Cruise... Homerism aside...can you honestly say you guys have faced pitching of ANY SIGNIFICANCE thus far in the season? I can't remember one team beginning the season with such a softball schedule in the past decade. And since this is the case...shouldn't the Cubs, even though it is early, be running away with this thing already? You'd think with their offense against these insufficient teams and their pitching they'd be 4 games ahead of the pack. Your thoughts. A little disappointed.....yes. But 4 of the team's 6 losses have come to Cincinnati, and all of those were close (2 runs or less). Whether it's because the Cubs are making them look good or not is uncertain at this point to me. Griffey being healthy and in the Reds' lineup automatically makes them better, and their offense much more dangerous. He's actually starting to hit this year, which is a scary thing for the Central teams. Their pitching isn't going to stop anyone, but they're going to steal a few wins from the contenders by outslugging them. Let's wait until the Cards play the Reds before we talk about the Cubs admittedly slow start. Edit: On second thought, don't....... You don't play them until June!!! And Griffey will probably be hurt by then. The offense has been inconsistent, but the difference this year is that this team should be able to gain that consistency. It has been sorely lacking in the last few years. The last two games showed what they're capable of against weak pitching, but I'll be waiting to see how they do against some real arms. So basically.....Jury's still out. It's too early. You're right, they haven't faced very stiff competition, and it'll be interesting to see how they handle that. They're going to have to turn it up quickly, because this easy early schedule is just about over.... Comment Post Cancel Previous 1 2 template Next English (US) Deutsch (Du) English (US) French Spanish Help Contact Us Go to top Copyright © 2003-13, TippingPitchers.com Powered by vBulletin® Version 5.7.2 Copyright © 2023 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. All times are GMT-6. This page was generated at 10:13 PM. Working... Yes No OK OK Cancel X

[fender tele]

Originally posted by slow groove+Apr 22 2004, 01:02 PM-->

QUOTE (slow groove @ Apr 22 2004, 01:02 PM)

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 12:25 PM slow groove Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 41317 Share Tweet #13 04-22-2004, 02:09 PM Originally posted by bcruise@Apr 22 2004, 12:28 PM I don't see Dusty flip-flopping the rotation this early (IIRC, a similar situation came up last year), so it'll probably be Maddux and not Mitre, as you listed above. Some good matchups there: - I'll give the first one to Clement although despite the 2.76 ERA, he's run into some trouble in the early innings. (Yes, that's the Homerol talking.) - I like Zambrano over Suppan for us, he's been our best starter out of the gate. - Wood vs. Morris should be a great one, no predictions there. - Marquis vs. Maddux......I'll give that one to you guys, assuming Maddux doesn't pull it together (and he probably won't) Just by the matchups, I see either a split or 3 out of 4 for the Cubs, with the Wood-Morris matchup being the swing game. However, after watching the offensive explosions of these two teams the last few days, those could get completely thrown out the window. Should be a great series. It's still a ways off though - the Cubs have 3 against NY before traveling to Arizona for 3 more. Cruise... Homerism aside...can you honestly say you guys have faced pitching of ANY SIGNIFICANCE thus far in the season? I can't remember one team beginning the season with such a softball schedule in the past decade. And since this is the case...shouldn't the Cubs, even though it is early, be running away with this thing already? You'd think with their offense against these insufficient teams and their pitching they'd be 4 games ahead of the pack. Your thoughts. "Let me lay it right on the line. Bigotry and racism are among the deadliest social ills plaguing the world today. The only way to destroy them is to expose them. If man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our hearts with tolerance.- Stan Lee (circa 1968) "Compete less with the person in front of you than the person inside of you." - Anonymous Comment Post Cancel kaiser Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7025 Share Tweet #14 04-22-2004, 02:41 PM SG: The Cubs have had what would be considered an easy schedule so far, so I tend to agree with what you're saying. I'm always right. Comment Post Cancel bcruise Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 15399 Share Tweet #15 04-22-2004, 02:43 PM Originally posted by slow groove@Apr 22 2004, 02:09 PM Cruise... Homerism aside...can you honestly say you guys have faced pitching of ANY SIGNIFICANCE thus far in the season? I can't remember one team beginning the season with such a softball schedule in the past decade. And since this is the case...shouldn't the Cubs, even though it is early, be running away with this thing already? You'd think with their offense against these insufficient teams and their pitching they'd be 4 games ahead of the pack. Your thoughts. A little disappointed.....yes. But 4 of the team's 6 losses have come to Cincinnati, and all of those were close (2 runs or less). Whether it's because the Cubs are making them look good or not is uncertain at this point to me. Griffey being healthy and in the Reds' lineup automatically makes them better, and their offense much more dangerous. He's actually starting to hit this year, which is a scary thing for the Central teams. Their pitching isn't going to stop anyone, but they're going to steal a few wins from the contenders by outslugging them. Let's wait until the Cards play the Reds before we talk about the Cubs admittedly slow start. Edit: On second thought, don't....... You don't play them until June!!! And Griffey will probably be hurt by then. The offense has been inconsistent, but the difference this year is that this team should be able to gain that consistency. It has been sorely lacking in the last few years. The last two games showed what they're capable of against weak pitching, but I'll be waiting to see how they do against some real arms. So basically.....Jury's still out. It's too early. You're right, they haven't faced very stiff competition, and it'll be interesting to see how they handle that. They're going to have to turn it up quickly, because this easy early schedule is just about over.... Comment Post Cancel Previous 1 2 template Next English (US) Deutsch (Du) English (US) French Spanish Help Contact Us Go to top Copyright © 2003-13, TippingPitchers.com Powered by vBulletin® Version 5.7.2 Copyright © 2023 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. All times are GMT-6. This page was generated at 10:13 PM. Working... Yes No OK OK Cancel X

[slow groove]

Originally posted by bcruise@Apr 22 2004, 12:28 PM
I don't see Dusty flip-flopping the rotation this early (IIRC, a similar situation came up last year), so it'll probably be Maddux and not Mitre, as you listed above.

Some good matchups there:

- I'll give the first one to Clement although despite the 2.76 ERA, he's run into some trouble in the early innings. (Yes, that's the Homerol talking.)

- I like Zambrano over Suppan for us, he's been our best starter out of the gate.

- Wood vs. Morris should be a great one, no predictions there.

- Marquis vs. Maddux......I'll give that one to you guys, assuming Maddux doesn't pull it together (and he probably won't)

Just by the matchups, I see either a split or 3 out of 4 for the Cubs, with the Wood-Morris matchup being the swing game. However, after watching the offensive explosions of these two teams the last few days, those could get completely thrown out the window.

Should be a great series. It's still a ways off though - the Cubs have 3 against NY before traveling to Arizona for 3 more.

Cruise...

Homerism aside...can you honestly say you guys have faced pitching of ANY SIGNIFICANCE thus far in the season?

I can't remember one team beginning the season with such a softball schedule in the past decade. And since this is the case...shouldn't the Cubs, even though it is early, be running away with this thing already? You'd think with their offense against these insufficient teams and their pitching they'd be 4 games ahead of the pack.

Your thoughts.

[kaiser]

SG:

The Cubs have had what would be considered an easy schedule so far, so I tend to agree with what you're saying.

[bcruise]

Originally posted by slow groove@Apr 22 2004, 02:09 PM
Cruise...

Homerism aside...can you honestly say you guys have faced pitching of ANY SIGNIFICANCE thus far in the season?

I can't remember one team beginning the season with such a softball schedule in the past decade. And since this is the case...shouldn't the Cubs, even though it is early, be running away with this thing already? You'd think with their offense against these insufficient teams and their pitching they'd be 4 games ahead of the pack.

Your thoughts.

A little disappointed.....yes.

But 4 of the team's 6 losses have come to Cincinnati, and all of those were close (2 runs or less). Whether it's because the Cubs are making them look good or not is uncertain at this point to me. Griffey being healthy and in the Reds' lineup automatically makes them better, and their offense much more dangerous. He's actually starting to hit this year, which is a scary thing for the Central teams. Their pitching isn't going to stop anyone, but they're going to steal a few wins from the contenders by outslugging them. Let's wait until the Cards play the Reds before we talk about the Cubs admittedly slow start.

Edit: On second thought, don't....... You don't play them until June!!! And Griffey will probably be hurt by then.

The offense has been inconsistent, but the difference this year is that this team should be able to gain that consistency. It has been sorely lacking in the last few years. The last two games showed what they're capable of against weak pitching, but I'll be waiting to see how they do against some real arms.

So basically.....Jury's still out. It's too early. You're right, they haven't faced very stiff competition, and it'll be interesting to see how they handle that. They're going to have to turn it up quickly, because this easy early schedule is just about over....