Prior

[sParticus]

I don't know how many of you have already read this article, and I realize that most people already new this info, but here it is on ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1780597

[Cubs4ever]

On radio before the game, he said he was getting better, still not great, and will just have to see. Plans on being back in a reasonable amount of time, but a little upset at the early deadlines everyone (Cubs included) have set for him. Says if it won't heal he will do his damndest to suck it up and try to go anyway.

[CD]

Originally posted by Cubs4ever@Apr 14 2004, 12:16 PM
Says if it won't heal he will do his damndest to suck it up and try to go anyway.

Hello, serious arm injury.

[kaiser]

Such a promising career. Over before it started.

It's a shame. But you play with steroid fire, you get burned.

[Cubs4ever]

Originally posted by devaskar+Apr 14 2004, 02:18 PM-->

QUOTE (devaskar @ Apr 14 2004, 02:18 PM)

slow groove Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 42715 Share Tweet #6 04-14-2004, 01:20 PM Originally posted by kaiser@Apr 14 2004, 01:18 PM Such a promising career. Over before it started. It's a shame. But you play with steroid fire, you get burned. Yup. This injury is indeed a problem. Not to mention that little drug addiction I hear (on the down-low) he battled during the off-season. "Let me lay it right on the line. Bigotry and racism are among the deadliest social ills plaguing the world today. The only way to destroy them is to expose them. If man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our hearts with tolerance.- Stan Lee (circa 1968) "Compete less with the person in front of you than the person inside of you." - Anonymous Comment Post Cancel slow groove Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 42715 Share Tweet #7 04-14-2004, 01:22 PM Originally posted by Cubs4ever@Apr 14 2004, 01:16 PM On radio before the game, he said he was getting better, still not great, and will just have to see. Plans on being back in a reasonable amount of time, but a little upset at the early deadlines everyone (Cubs included) have set for him. Says if it won't heal he will do his damndest to suck it up and try to go anyway. Not if his father (huge influence on him his entire baseball career) has anything to say about it. "Let me lay it right on the line. Bigotry and racism are among the deadliest social ills plaguing the world today. The only way to destroy them is to expose them. If man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our hearts with tolerance.- Stan Lee (circa 1968) "Compete less with the person in front of you than the person inside of you." - Anonymous Comment Post Cancel Cubs4ever Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7979 Share Tweet #8 04-14-2004, 01:29 PM Originally posted by slow groove+Apr 14 2004, 02:22 PM--> QUOTE (slow groove @ Apr 14 2004, 02:22 PM) ChiTownBluesFan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 23335 Share Tweet #9 04-14-2004, 01:34 PM Until I see something believeable about Prior being on steroids, I'll chalk up all accounts of it to jealous Cardinal fans. Not all Cardinal fans, just the jealous ones. I don't believe there's an ounce of truth to that rumor. Barry Bonds, on the other hand..... Official sponsor of: Pepsi Zero Sugar and Jordan Almonds. Comment Post Cancel Cubs4ever Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7979 Share Tweet #10 04-14-2004, 01:36 PM Barry Bonds, on the other hand..... If he could somehow prove he was clean 1. What a damn good player 2. Many have some apologizing to do I am not ready to say he did for sure yet. Maybe I'm unwilling to accept my game is tainted. Lounge sponsor of Gary Brackett, Reggie Wayne, Henrik Zetterberg (not lounge approved) and all country music. Comment Post Cancel BringBackZezel El Guapo Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 42770 Share Tweet #11 04-14-2004, 01:37 PM I heard he might need an arm transplant. Official Lounge Sponsor of: MIGOTS!, TJ Oshie, David Freese, Sponsoring Softball Players, Trout, Bon Jovi, Cold, hard facts, rigidly defined with mathematical precision, The abortion boat, which traveled to Poland in 2003 and Ireland in 2001. Former Lounge Sponsor of: The Hebrew Hammer, BBZ, Foods that start with the letter 'Q', Paul 'Visor' Mitchell, FBBHOFer Brett "William" Wallace, BBFHOF, THE LALPHABET: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N I Z M N O P Q R S T U V Z T U V X Y X Z, The Return of MarkD. Comment Post Cancel ChiTownBluesFan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 23335 Share Tweet #12 04-14-2004, 01:42 PM Originally posted by Cubs4ever@Apr 14 2004, 02:36 PM Barry Bonds, on the other hand..... If he could somehow prove he was clean 1. What a damn good player 2. Many have some apologizing to do I am not ready to say he did for sure yet. Maybe I'm unwilling to accept my game is tainted. The signs I see with Bonds are... 1) You just dont start adding muscle mass the way he did in his late 30's. 2) His hat size grew about what, six sizes practically in one off season? Same is true with Sosa - another player I have no doubt is on the juice. Sad thing is - I have heard that steroids don't actually make you hit a ball farther - it's more about bat speed that strength. I don't know if I buy that, but I can see where having more muscles would make it harder to keep the bat speed up. Official sponsor of: Pepsi Zero Sugar and Jordan Almonds. Comment Post Cancel Cubs4ever Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7979 Share Tweet #13 04-14-2004, 01:45 PM Not trying to be a homer, but why Sosa? He wasn't that old when he put on the muscle, and did change his entire approach to hitting, as anyone can see the differences in his stance from '97 to '98 and on. Lounge sponsor of Gary Brackett, Reggie Wayne, Henrik Zetterberg (not lounge approved) and all country music. Comment Post Cancel slow groove Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 42715 Share Tweet #14 04-14-2004, 01:53 PM Originally posted by Cubs4ever@Apr 14 2004, 01:45 PM Not trying to be a homer, but why Sosa? He wasn't that old when he put on the muscle, and did change his entire approach to hitting, as anyone can see the differences in his stance from '97 to '98 and on. that may be (to a homer), but it's hard to fathom increasing your home run total by 34 in one season, for one example. Secondly, face it, Cubs, the man physically blew up...I mean as it he had his lips locked on an air pressure valve. Ironically, he is much smaller than he was 2 years ago and even last year. Coincidence...maybe? I'll reserve judgement. Although, since we both reside in the Chicago area (I believe you do, also) we've heard the down-low rumblings of his usage for several years now. Lastly, its difficult for me to believe the denials of a man caught using cork and, basically, denying he corked his bat. "Let me lay it right on the line. Bigotry and racism are among the deadliest social ills plaguing the world today. The only way to destroy them is to expose them. If man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our hearts with tolerance.- Stan Lee (circa 1968) "Compete less with the person in front of you than the person inside of you." - Anonymous Comment Post Cancel Cubs4ever Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7979 Share Tweet #15 04-14-2004, 02:00 PM since we both reside in the Chicago area (I believe you do, also) No, sorry. The cork thing did hurt, as my judgement of him personally changed, but he did hit 40 two years before and may have gotten 50 that year barring injury. And then the next year he sucked, perhaps got cocky over a good year, and then went all out. Who knows? You may be right. Lounge sponsor of Gary Brackett, Reggie Wayne, Henrik Zetterberg (not lounge approved) and all country music. 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[slow groove]

Originally posted by kaiser@Apr 14 2004, 01:18 PM
Such a promising career. Over before it started.

It's a shame. But you play with steroid fire, you get burned.

Yup. This injury is indeed a problem.

Not to mention that little drug addiction I hear (on the down-low) he battled during the off-season.

[slow groove]

Originally posted by Cubs4ever@Apr 14 2004, 01:16 PM
On radio before the game, he said he was getting better, still not great, and will just have to see. Plans on being back in a reasonable amount of time, but a little upset at the early deadlines everyone (Cubs included) have set for him. Says if it won't heal he will do his damndest to suck it up and try to go anyway.

Not if his father (huge influence on him his entire baseball career) has anything to say about it.

[Cubs4ever]

Originally posted by slow groove+Apr 14 2004, 02:22 PM-->

QUOTE (slow groove @ Apr 14 2004, 02:22 PM)

ChiTownBluesFan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 23335 Share Tweet #9 04-14-2004, 01:34 PM Until I see something believeable about Prior being on steroids, I'll chalk up all accounts of it to jealous Cardinal fans. Not all Cardinal fans, just the jealous ones. I don't believe there's an ounce of truth to that rumor. Barry Bonds, on the other hand..... Official sponsor of: Pepsi Zero Sugar and Jordan Almonds. Comment Post Cancel Cubs4ever Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7979 Share Tweet #10 04-14-2004, 01:36 PM Barry Bonds, on the other hand..... If he could somehow prove he was clean 1. What a damn good player 2. Many have some apologizing to do I am not ready to say he did for sure yet. Maybe I'm unwilling to accept my game is tainted. Lounge sponsor of Gary Brackett, Reggie Wayne, Henrik Zetterberg (not lounge approved) and all country music. Comment Post Cancel BringBackZezel El Guapo Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 42770 Share Tweet #11 04-14-2004, 01:37 PM I heard he might need an arm transplant. Official Lounge Sponsor of: MIGOTS!, TJ Oshie, David Freese, Sponsoring Softball Players, Trout, Bon Jovi, Cold, hard facts, rigidly defined with mathematical precision, The abortion boat, which traveled to Poland in 2003 and Ireland in 2001. Former Lounge Sponsor of: The Hebrew Hammer, BBZ, Foods that start with the letter 'Q', Paul 'Visor' Mitchell, FBBHOFer Brett "William" Wallace, BBFHOF, THE LALPHABET: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N I Z M N O P Q R S T U V Z T U V X Y X Z, The Return of MarkD. Comment Post Cancel ChiTownBluesFan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 23335 Share Tweet #12 04-14-2004, 01:42 PM Originally posted by Cubs4ever@Apr 14 2004, 02:36 PM Barry Bonds, on the other hand..... If he could somehow prove he was clean 1. What a damn good player 2. Many have some apologizing to do I am not ready to say he did for sure yet. Maybe I'm unwilling to accept my game is tainted. The signs I see with Bonds are... 1) You just dont start adding muscle mass the way he did in his late 30's. 2) His hat size grew about what, six sizes practically in one off season? Same is true with Sosa - another player I have no doubt is on the juice. Sad thing is - I have heard that steroids don't actually make you hit a ball farther - it's more about bat speed that strength. I don't know if I buy that, but I can see where having more muscles would make it harder to keep the bat speed up. Official sponsor of: Pepsi Zero Sugar and Jordan Almonds. Comment Post Cancel Cubs4ever Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7979 Share Tweet #13 04-14-2004, 01:45 PM Not trying to be a homer, but why Sosa? He wasn't that old when he put on the muscle, and did change his entire approach to hitting, as anyone can see the differences in his stance from '97 to '98 and on. Lounge sponsor of Gary Brackett, Reggie Wayne, Henrik Zetterberg (not lounge approved) and all country music. Comment Post Cancel slow groove Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 42715 Share Tweet #14 04-14-2004, 01:53 PM Originally posted by Cubs4ever@Apr 14 2004, 01:45 PM Not trying to be a homer, but why Sosa? He wasn't that old when he put on the muscle, and did change his entire approach to hitting, as anyone can see the differences in his stance from '97 to '98 and on. that may be (to a homer), but it's hard to fathom increasing your home run total by 34 in one season, for one example. Secondly, face it, Cubs, the man physically blew up...I mean as it he had his lips locked on an air pressure valve. Ironically, he is much smaller than he was 2 years ago and even last year. Coincidence...maybe? I'll reserve judgement. Although, since we both reside in the Chicago area (I believe you do, also) we've heard the down-low rumblings of his usage for several years now. Lastly, its difficult for me to believe the denials of a man caught using cork and, basically, denying he corked his bat. "Let me lay it right on the line. Bigotry and racism are among the deadliest social ills plaguing the world today. The only way to destroy them is to expose them. If man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our hearts with tolerance.- Stan Lee (circa 1968) "Compete less with the person in front of you than the person inside of you." - Anonymous Comment Post Cancel Cubs4ever Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7979 Share Tweet #15 04-14-2004, 02:00 PM since we both reside in the Chicago area (I believe you do, also) No, sorry. The cork thing did hurt, as my judgement of him personally changed, but he did hit 40 two years before and may have gotten 50 that year barring injury. And then the next year he sucked, perhaps got cocky over a good year, and then went all out. Who knows? You may be right. Lounge sponsor of Gary Brackett, Reggie Wayne, Henrik Zetterberg (not lounge approved) and all country music. Comment Post Cancel Previous template Next English (US) Deutsch (Du) English (US) French Spanish Help Contact Us Go to top Copyright © 2003-13, TippingPitchers.com Powered by vBulletin® Version 6.0.0 Copyright © 2023 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. All times are GMT-6. This page was generated at 10:45 PM. Working... Yes No OK OK Cancel X 😀 🥰 🤢 😎 😡 👍 👎

[ChiTownBluesFan]

Until I see something believeable about Prior being on steroids, I'll chalk up all accounts of it to jealous Cardinal fans. Not all Cardinal fans, just the jealous ones.

I don't believe there's an ounce of truth to that rumor.

Barry Bonds, on the other hand.....

[Cubs4ever]

Barry Bonds, on the other hand.....

If he could somehow prove he was clean

1. What a damn good player

2. Many have some apologizing to do

I am not ready to say he did for sure yet. Maybe I'm unwilling to accept my game is tainted.

[BringBackZezel]

I heard he might need an arm transplant.

[ChiTownBluesFan]

Originally posted by Cubs4ever@Apr 14 2004, 02:36 PM

Barry Bonds, on the other hand.....

If he could somehow prove he was clean

1. What a damn good player

2. Many have some apologizing to do

I am not ready to say he did for sure yet. Maybe I'm unwilling to accept my game is tainted.

The signs I see with Bonds are...

1) You just dont start adding muscle mass the way he did in his late 30's.
2) His hat size grew about what, six sizes practically in one off season?

Same is true with Sosa - another player I have no doubt is on the juice.

Sad thing is - I have heard that steroids don't actually make you hit a ball farther - it's more about bat speed that strength. I don't know if I buy that, but I can see where having more muscles would make it harder to keep the bat speed up.

[Cubs4ever]

Not trying to be a homer, but why Sosa? He wasn't that old when he put on the muscle, and did change his entire approach to hitting, as anyone can see the differences in his stance from '97 to '98 and on.

[slow groove]

Originally posted by Cubs4ever@Apr 14 2004, 01:45 PM
Not trying to be a homer, but why Sosa? He wasn't that old when he put on the muscle, and did change his entire approach to hitting, as anyone can see the differences in his stance from '97 to '98 and on.

that may be (to a homer), but it's hard to fathom increasing your home run total by 34 in one season, for one example.

Secondly, face it, Cubs, the man physically blew up...I mean as it he had his lips locked on an air pressure valve. Ironically, he is much smaller than he was 2 years ago and even last year.

Coincidence...maybe? I'll reserve judgement. Although, since we both reside in the Chicago area (I believe you do, also) we've heard the down-low rumblings of his usage for several years now.

Lastly, its difficult for me to believe the denials of a man caught using cork and, basically, denying he corked his bat.

[Cubs4ever]

since we both reside in the Chicago area (I believe you do, also)

No, sorry.

The cork thing did hurt, as my judgement of him personally changed, but he did hit 40 two years before and may have gotten 50 that year barring injury. And then the next year he sucked, perhaps got cocky over a good year, and then went all out. Who knows? You may be right.