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    A Strategy for Iraq

    By John F. Kerry
    Tuesday, April 13, 2004; Page A19

    To be successful in Iraq, and in any war for that matter, our use of force must be tied to a political objective more complete than the ouster of a regime. To date, that has not happened in Iraq. It is time it did.

    In the past week the situation in Iraq has taken a dramatic turn for the worse. While we may have differed on how we went to war, Americans of all political persuasions are united in our determination to succeed. The extremists attacking our forces should know they will not succeed in dividing America, or in sapping American resolve, or in forcing the premature withdrawal of U.S. troops. Our country is committed to help the Iraqis build a stable, peaceful and pluralistic society. No matter who is elected president in November, we will persevere in that mission.

    But to maximize our chances for success, and to minimize the risk of failure, we must make full use of the assets we have. If our military commanders request more troops, we should deploy them. Progress is not possible in Iraq if people lack the security to go about the business of daily life. Yet the military alone cannot win the peace in Iraq. We need a political strategy that will work.

    Over the past year the Bush administration has advanced several plans for a transition to democratic rule in Iraq. Each of those plans, after proving to be unworkable, was abandoned. The administration has set a date (June 30) for returning authority to an Iraqi entity to run the country, but there is no agreement with the Iraqis on how it will be constituted to make it representative enough to have popular legitimacy. Because of the way the White House has run the war, we are left with the United States bearing most of the costs and risks associated with every aspect of the Iraqi transition. We have lost lives, time, momentum and credibility. And we are seeing increasing numbers of Iraqis lashing out at the United States to express their frustration over what the Bush administration has and hasn't done.

    In recent weeks the administration -- in effect acknowledging the failure of its own efforts -- has turned to U.N. representative Lakhdar Brahimi to develop a formula for an interim Iraqi government that each of the major Iraqi factions can accept. It is vital that Brahimi accomplish this mission, but the odds are long, because tensions have been allowed to build and distrust among the various Iraqi groups runs deep. The United States can bolster Brahimi's limited leverage by saying in advance that we will support any plan he proposes that gains the support of Iraqi leaders. Moving forward, the administration must make the United Nations a full partner responsible for developing Iraq's transition to a new constitution and government. We also need to renew our effort to attract international support in the form of boots on the ground to create a climate of security in Iraq. We need more troops and more people who can train Iraqi troops and assist Iraqi police.

    We should urge NATO to create a new out-of-area operation for Iraq under the lead of a U.S. commander. This would help us obtain more troops from major powers. The events of the past week will make foreign governments extremely reluctant to put their citizens at risk. That is why international acceptance of responsibility for stabilizing Iraq must be matched by international authority for managing the remainder of the Iraqi transition. The United Nations, not the United States, should be the primary civilian partner in working with Iraqi leaders to hold elections, restore government services, rebuild the economy, and re-create a sense of hope and optimism among the Iraqi people. The primary responsibility for security must remain with the U.S. military, preferably helped by NATO until we have an Iraqi security force fully prepared to take responsibility.

    Finally, we must level with our citizens. Increasingly, the American people are confused about our goals in Iraq, particularly why we are going it almost alone. The president must rally the country around a clear and credible goal. The challenges are significant and the costs are high. But the stakes are too great to lose the support of the American people.

    This morning, as we sit down to read newspapers in the comfort of our homes or offices, we have an obligation to think of our fighting men and women in Iraq who awake each morning to a shooting gallery in which it is exceedingly difficult to distinguish friend from foe, and the death of every innocent creates more enemies. We owe it to our soldiers and Marines to use absolutely every tool we can muster to help them succeed in their mission without exposing them to unnecessary risk. That is not a partisan proposal. It is a matter of national honor and trust.

    Sen. Kerry (D-Mass.) is the presumptive Democratic nominee for president.


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    The United Nations, not the United States, should be the primary civilian partner in working with Iraqi leaders to hold elections, restore government services, rebuild the economy, and re-create a sense of hope and optimism among the Iraqi people.
    Do we think they will now be less corrupt than they were with the food for oil program?
    Asked what he would do differently in Iraq, Kerry said, "Right now, what I would do differently is, I mean, look, I'm not the president, and I didn't create this mess so I don't want to acknowledge a mistake that I haven't made."

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    • #3
      dvy:

      Thanks for posting. I agreed with this part the most:

      We owe it to our soldiers and Marines to use absolutely every tool we can muster to help them succeed in their mission without exposing them to unnecessary risk. That is not a partisan proposal. It is a matter of national honor and trust.
      I'm having a difficult time, however, reconciling this statement with the fact that he actually voted against the $87 billion supplement. I know his stated reasons -- that he wanted the supplement paid for with corresponding cuts or tax increases.

      But a month or so before that vote, Kerry told a reporter that he would still vote for the supplement even if he couldn't convince the White House to make the necessary cuts/tax increases -- stating that politics should interfere with the welfare of the troops.

      My question is: Where did that conviction go when the vote was made and why has it suddenly reappeared today?

      Thanks
      "You can't handle my opinions." Moedrabowsky

      Jeffro is a hell of a good man.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BurnKU@Apr 13 2004, 08:55 AM
        The United Nations, not the United States, should be the primary civilian partner in working with Iraqi leaders to hold elections, restore government services, rebuild the economy, and re-create a sense of hope and optimism among the Iraqi people.
        Do we think they will now be less corrupt than they were with the food for oil program?
        Honestly, if it gets our folks out of the firing line, isn't it the lesser of two evils?
        Dude. Can. Fly.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FAR52@Apr 13 2004, 09:00 AM
          dvy:

          Thanks for posting. I agreed with this part the most:

          We owe it to our soldiers and Marines to use absolutely every tool we can muster to help them succeed in their mission without exposing them to unnecessary risk. That is not a partisan proposal. It is a matter of national honor and trust.
          I'm having a difficult time, however, reconciling this statement with the fact that he actually voted against the $87 billion supplement. I know his stated reasons -- that he wanted the supplement paid for with corresponding cuts or tax increases.

          But a month or so before that vote, Kerry told a reporter that he would still vote for the supplement even if he couldn't convince the White House to make the necessary cuts/tax increases -- stating that politics should interfere with the welfare of the troops.

          My question is: Where did that conviction go when the vote was made and why has it suddenly reappeared today?

          Thanks
          I don't have a problem with the against the $87 b vote. To better judge that statement of Kerry though, I'd have to see it more in context.

          But I do wish more, including Kerry, had Kuciniched the vote for war.

          In his and many many others defense, phantom, you'd have to admit that Bush and Cheney were portraying those against the war as non-patriots. I hate that sh*t.
          Dude. Can. Fly.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dvyyyyyy+Apr 13 2004, 09:26 AM-->
            QUOTE (dvyyyyyy @ Apr 13 2004, 09:26 AM)

          • #7
            Originally posted by FAR52@Apr 13 2004, 09:33 AM

            In his and many many others defense, phantom, you'd have to admit that Bush and Cheney were portraying those against the war as non-patriots. I hate that sh*t.
            I'm not Phantom. But I would agree nonetheless.

            Thanks
            LOL.

            My bad, FAR. When I see reasonable discussion, I assume it's phantom. That was a compliment.
            Dude. Can. Fly.

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            • #8
              Originally posted by dvyyyyyy@Apr 13 2004, 09:26 AM
              In his and many many others defense, phantom, you'd have to admit that Bush and Cheney were portraying those against the war as non-patriots. I hate that sh*t.
              Do you hate it when liberals portray conservatives who don't agree with their socialist ideas as people who hate the poor/minorities/elderly/women/etc.?
              Asked what he would do differently in Iraq, Kerry said, "Right now, what I would do differently is, I mean, look, I'm not the president, and I didn't create this mess so I don't want to acknowledge a mistake that I haven't made."

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              • #9
                Originally posted by dvyyyyyy+Apr 13 2004, 09:36 AM-->
                QUOTE (dvyyyyyy @ Apr 13 2004, 09:36 AM)

              • #10
                Originally posted by FAR52@Apr 13 2004, 09:00 AM
                dvy:

                Thanks for posting. I agreed with this part the most:

                We owe it to our soldiers and Marines to use absolutely every tool we can muster to help them succeed in their mission without exposing them to unnecessary risk. That is not a partisan proposal. It is a matter of national honor and trust.
                I'm having a difficult time, however, reconciling this statement with the fact that he actually voted against the $87 billion supplement. I know his stated reasons -- that he wanted the supplement paid for with corresponding cuts or tax increases.

                But a month or so before that vote, Kerry told a reporter that he would still vote for the supplement even if he couldn't convince the White House to make the necessary cuts/tax increases -- stating that politics should interfere with the welfare of the troops.

                My question is: Where did that conviction go when the vote was made and why has it suddenly reappeared today?

                Thanks
                Kerry and the Democrats proposed an alternate bill that would have provided the exact same funding for the troops, but cut taxes. The Republicans shot it down.

                By your logic, the Republicans didn't support our troops either because they killed a funding bill.

                Both sides voted against the funding and for the funding.

                This has been explained to you now several times, yet you insist on perpetuating this myth about Kerry.
                2005 Mandatory Loyalty Oath: I love America, our troops, baseball, Moms, and certain pies. I want no harm to come to any of those institutions, nor do I take any glee in their demise.

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                • #11
                  Originally posted by BurnKU+Apr 13 2004, 09:39 AM-->
                  QUOTE (BurnKU @ Apr 13 2004, 09:39 AM)

                • #12
                  Originally posted by dvyyyyyy@Apr 13 2004, 09:36 AM
                  LOL.

                  My bad, FAR. When I see reasonable discussion, I assume it's phantom. That was a compliment.
                  Thanks for the compliment!

                  I don't disagree with anything Kerry said in your original post. It all sounds good. My only contention would be that I don't know how realistic it is. It's easy to say that we need to get more NATO and/or UN boots on the ground, etc. But I don't know how easy that is. I would want to know at what cost. Would we have to bribe them?

                  It would definitely be in our interest to have more of a U.N. presence.

                  And for the record, I disagree with Kerry's reason for voting agains the $87B. He did it as a "protest". I don't think that should ever be the reason for a vote in the Congress.
                  "Need some wood?" -- George W. Bush, October 8, 2004

                  "Historians will judge if this war is just, not your punk ass." -- Dave Glover, December 8, 2004

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                  • #13
                    Originally posted by Trigfunctions+Apr 13 2004, 09:46 AM-->
                    QUOTE (Trigfunctions @ Apr 13 2004, 09:46 AM)

                  • #14
                    From Franken's blog:

                    http://www.airamericaradio.com/bin/blogExc...?blogId=1&prg=3

                    Here’s a guy that voted for the $87 billion to fund the war before he voted against it.
                    This is correct, but it’s not a flip-flop. Kerry voted for an amendment to the Iraqi appropriations bill that would have paid for the $87 billion by taking it out of the tax cut for the extremely rich. That amendment lost, 57-42, because Bush insisted that the $87 billion be added to the deficit. As we discussed with Paul Krugman last week, never in the history of this country have we had tax cuts while we were at war. Not only that, but Paul Krugman told me that he has yet to find any civilization in the history of this planet that ever had a tax cut during a war.

                    After the amendment went down, Kerry did vote against the final $87 billion supplemental appropriation, as a protest against the way Bush got us into the war and is conducting it. But he knew that the troops would have the support, because the bill passed 87 to 12.

                    You can support our troops, and still protest the president. If you can’t hold those two ideas in your head, you won’t enjoy my show, and I suggest you switch over to Rush right now.
                    2005 Mandatory Loyalty Oath: I love America, our troops, baseball, Moms, and certain pies. I want no harm to come to any of those institutions, nor do I take any glee in their demise.

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                    • #15
                      Originally posted by Trigfunctions@Apr 13 2004, 09:51 AM
                      From Franken's blog:

                      http://www.airamericaradio.com/bin/blogExc...?blogId=1&prg=3

                      Here’s a guy that voted for the $87 billion to fund the war before he voted against it.
                      This is correct, but it’s not a flip-flop. Kerry voted for an amendment to the Iraqi appropriations bill that would have paid for the $87 billion by taking it out of the tax cut for the extremely rich. That amendment lost, 57-42, because Bush insisted that the $87 billion be added to the deficit. As we discussed with Paul Krugman last week, never in the history of this country have we had tax cuts while we were at war. Not only that, but Paul Krugman told me that he has yet to find any civilization in the history of this planet that ever had a tax cut during a war.

                      After the amendment went down, Kerry did vote against the final $87 billion supplemental appropriation, as a protest against the way Bush got us into the war and is conducting it. But he knew that the troops would have the support, because the bill passed 87 to 12.

                      You can support our troops, and still protest the president. If you can’t hold those two ideas in your head, you won’t enjoy my show, and I suggest you switch over to Rush right now.
                      I think the timing suggests a viable alternative. Kerry was more worried about Dean and the kind of anti-war support he was receiving before the first primary vote -- which is the real reason that "he voted for the $87 billion supplement before he voted against it."

                      You know, that is such a classic line, that I chuckle every time I hear it.
                      "You can't handle my opinions." Moedrabowsky

                      Jeffro is a hell of a good man.

                      "A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel." - Robert Frost

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