Just A Few Things I Have Heard...

[Hawg_Wild03]

So the Cardinals are serious about AJ Burnett. Remember how Pujols talked to him earlier this year about coming to St. Louis when he becomes a FA, don't be suprised to hear that a couple Cardinals might call him to talk. He wants to be in a mid market team, which is why it will probably come down to St. Louis, Toronto, and Baltimore.


Now if we were to sign Burnett, Marquis and a couple others would be gone for a young, cheap OF. Kevin Mench, Carlos Quinten, Chad Tracy, Aaron Rowand, Adam Dunn, and Aubrey Huff are possibilities.

Now if we were to not sign Burnett, Bobby Abreu, Griffey, and Giles become possibilities.

And I wouldn't rule out bringing Jacque Jones in for $3-4 million a year.


RE Breat Boone, he will probably get an offer to come to Spring Training. Who knows what could happen there. I heard he is in very good shape.......


Wouldn't be suprised to hear Brad Thompson's name in trade talks.

[Charlie Sheen]

If the Cardinals are going to give anyone a 9-10 million dollar deal this off-season, I'd rather it be Burnett than Giles. Getting Burnett also gives the Cardinals flexibility on making a trade for a younger player.

The offense just needs a few supporting players for Pujols, Edmonds, and Rolen (because if those guys aren't producing, the Cardinals aren't going to win anyway).

[Charlie Sheen]

Here is a tidbit on Burnett:

Nov. 8
News: Burnett's agent expects to talk with Texas GM Jon Daniels during the GM meetings this week, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports.

Spin: Burnett has reportedly been contacted by 22 of the 30 teams, so expect the competition to be fierce.

[Indu WangZi]

So...

Expensive starting pitcher + young, relatively inexpensive OF

or...

Expensive FA veteran.

Walt...I like Option 1.

[davhaf]

Does Boone have anything left? Always liked him....

[Charlie Sheen]

Something else, last season:

Morris: 6.5 million
Marquis: 3 million (due a raise?)

Next season:

Burnett: 10 million
An. Reyes: minimum

Not a big difference between what our 4th and 5th starters last year made and what Burnett/Reyes could potentially make next year.

Also:

Walker: 6 million
Sanders: 4 million

That also leaves about 10 million to use to fill the OF. 10 million is actually quite a good number if the Cardinals are going to attempt to address that need via trade.

All of that with a very small bump in the payroll.

Who knows what will happen, but point is, the Cards have the ability to get creative this offseason, the hands are not tied at all.

[chs266s]

QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Nov 9 2005, 06:57 PM) Quoted post

If the Cardinals are going to give anyone a 9-10 million dollar deal this off-season, I'd rather it be Burnett than Giles. Getting Burnett also gives the Cardinals flexibility on making a trade for a younger player.

The offense just needs a few supporting players for Pujols, Edmonds, and Rolen (because if those guys aren't producing, the Cardinals aren't going to win anyway).
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I agree with that, but I think Burnett will get a bit more than 10 million. If he gets close to the $14 million that Pedro got, I say no way. That is Pujols money for a guy who has a career losing record and a history of arm problems.

[Jack Daniels]

"In Walt We Trust"

[TTB]

I would like Burnett but not at 5 years at $10 mil per year.

I don't think Walt will either.

[space invader]

QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Nov 9 2005, 07:57 PM) Quoted post

If the Cardinals are going to give anyone a 9-10 million dollar deal this off-season, I'd rather it be Burnett than Giles. Getting Burnett also gives the Cardinals flexibility on making a trade for a younger player.
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we need power pitching. enough of this horseshit of wasting 9 million on position players that are brittle and watch the postseason instead of dominating in the postseason.

[Tazlaz]

QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Nov 9 2005, 07:11 PM) Quoted post

Something else, last season:

Morris: 6.5 million
Marquis: 3 million (due a raise?)

Next season:

Burnett: 10 million
An. Reyes: minimum

Not a big difference between what our 4th and 5th starters last year made and what Burnett/Reyes could potentially make next year.

Also:

Walker: 6 million
Sanders: 4 million

That also leaves about 10 million to use to fill the OF. 10 million is actually quite a good number if the Cardinals are going to attempt to address that need via trade.

All of that with a very small bump in the payroll.

Who knows what will happen, but point is, the Cards have the ability to get creative this offseason, the hands are not tied at all.
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Forget not that other players will see raises.

Pujols from $11M to $14M
Edmonds from $10M to $12M ($1M deferred each year so $9M to $11M)
Isringhausen from $7M to $8.75M
Mulder from $6M to $7.25M
Eckstein from $2.25M to $3.25M
Carpenter from $4.55M (after incentives) to $5M
King from $1.85M to $2.45M

That's $10M in raises

[lasvegasreb]

Except, uh, Burnett is not power pitching.

[Charlie Sheen]

QUOTE(lasvegasreb @ Nov 9 2005, 10:54 PM) Quoted post

Except, uh, Burnett is not power pitching.
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huh?

[Jack Daniels]

QUOTE(Tazlaz @ Nov 9 2005, 09:41 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Nov 9 2005, 07:11 PM) Quoted post

Something else, last season:

Morris: 6.5 million
Marquis: 3 million (due a raise?)

Next season:

Burnett: 10 million
An. Reyes: minimum

Not a big difference between what our 4th and 5th starters last year made and what Burnett/Reyes could potentially make next year.

Also:

Walker: 6 million
Sanders: 4 million

That also leaves about 10 million to use to fill the OF. 10 million is actually quite a good number if the Cardinals are going to attempt to address that need via trade.

All of that with a very small bump in the payroll.

Who knows what will happen, but point is, the Cards have the ability to get creative this offseason, the hands are not tied at all.
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Forget not that other players will see raises.

Pujols from $11M to $14M
Edmonds from $10M to $12M ($1M deferred each year so $9M to $11M)
Isringhausen from $7M to $8.75M
Mulder from $6M to $7.25M
Eckstein from $2.25M to $3.25M
Carpenter from $4.55M (after incentives) to $5M
King from $1.85M to $2.45M

That's $10M in raises
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King may be gone too, don't forget. If Tony has his way, he'll be gone.

[Jonas]

QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Nov 9 2005, 10:05 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(Tazlaz @ Nov 9 2005, 09:41 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Nov 9 2005, 07:11 PM) Quoted post

Something else, last season:

Morris: 6.5 million
Marquis: 3 million (due a raise?)

Next season:

Burnett: 10 million
An. Reyes: minimum

Not a big difference between what our 4th and 5th starters last year made and what Burnett/Reyes could potentially make next year.

Also:

Walker: 6 million
Sanders: 4 million

That also leaves about 10 million to use to fill the OF. 10 million is actually quite a good number if the Cardinals are going to attempt to address that need via trade.

All of that with a very small bump in the payroll.

Who knows what will happen, but point is, the Cards have the ability to get creative this offseason, the hands are not tied at all.
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Forget not that other players will see raises.

Pujols from $11M to $14M
Edmonds from $10M to $12M ($1M deferred each year so $9M to $11M)
Isringhausen from $7M to $8.75M
Mulder from $6M to $7.25M
Eckstein from $2.25M to $3.25M
Carpenter from $4.55M (after incentives) to $5M
King from $1.85M to $2.45M

That's $10M in raises
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King may be gone too, don't forget. If Tony has his way, he'll be gone.
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Yeah, but I can't imagine them getting rid of most of his salary. He's not in good shape now and I can't imagine another team taking him without the Cardinals picking up a significant chunk of that salary.