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    Barnett would look pretty good in Columbia - where he's always wanted to be - no? Especially since the bad rap on him has proven to be just that...

    On field, Colorado steady as they come in Big 12 North

    By JOE WALLJASPER Tribune sports editor
    Published Sunday, November 6, 2005

    BOULDER, Colo. - The Colorado football team has assumed its position atop the deteriorating Big 12 North Division and stayed there for the better part of five years without arousing much interest from inside or outside the state’s borders. Rather, in recent years, it has been the news of arousing recruiting practices that has defined the Buffaloes and made Coach Gary Barnett a lightning rod for criticism.

    While former Big 12 North powers Nebraska and Kansas State have regressed and none of the other teams in the division has shown much progress, Colorado keeps plodding along, steady as Ralphie the Buffalo on his pregame lap around the field. Since 2001, CU has amassed a 20-3 record against North opponents.

    To unseat the Buffs, you have to overwhelm them with superior talent or play with minimal mistakes. Missouri doesn’t have the former and didn’t do the latter. With yesterday’s 41-12 loss to Colorado, the Tigers’ hopes at a North title during the Brad Smith era basically vanished into the thin Rocky Mountain air. It was a pipe dream, anyway, to think a team as erratic as Missouri (5-4, 3-3) could contend for something more meaningful than a lower-tier bowl game.

    The Buffaloes, meanwhile, are well on their way to their fourth North crown in five years - not that many people have paid attention. Even Colorado’s own fans seem underwhelmed. More than 3,000 fans who bought tickets didn’t show up at Folsom Field yesterday.

    For those who watched, though, the differences between a solid program and a shaky one were obvious yesterday.

    Colorado (7-2, 5-1) prides itself on being one of the few Big 12 teams willing to play a competitive nonconference schedule. Barnett doesn’t duck in-state rival Colorado State, even though the Buffaloes have little to gain by beating the Rams. This year, he took his team to Miami to play the Hurricanes.

    The Buffaloes usually lose a game or two early but keep improving and eventually play their best football in November. They are 15-6 in November under Barnett.

    "Our team knows November is the big time," Barnett said. "Only a few teams are standing in November, and we’re one of them."

    And then you have the Tigers. Missouri Coach Gary Pinkel is a dedicated believer in a soft nonconference schedule. He refused to play a scheduled game against Iowa, so the Hawkeyes were replaced with Arkansas State. The Tigers’ offense looked mighty good in that win, as well as a loss to New Mexico and a victory over Troy. But as the opponents have improved, the offense has become a fickle beast. It surges one week and sputters the next.

    Opposing coaches either understand how to stop Smith and the spread option attack, or they don’t, and there is little middle ground. Pinkel has proved far more adept at taking responsibility for Missouri’s problems than figuring out how to fix them. It appears to me there is way too much talent at the skill positions for the Tigers to have one offensive touchdown in the last two games.

    Those offensive woes have left Missouri increasingly dependent on its defense, not only to keep the score down, but also to provide points. That’s no way to win a game against a team as good as Colorado.

    Sadly, although he breaks school and NCAA records by the bushel, Smith hasn’t developed into a better quarterback than he was in his first game as a redshirt freshman. He set the bar mighty high, of course, but wasn’t it fun back then to dream about what he and Tigers could accomplish in four years?

    Unfortunately, it appears the list won’t include any Big 12 North titles. In case you haven’t noticed, Colorado has a monopoly on that.
    The Dude abides.

  • #2
    Stupid fifth down!


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    • #3
      Moe would sell any dignity he has left for a MU football national championship.
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      • #4
        QUOTE(lasvegasreb @ Nov 7 2005, 12:59 PM) Quoted post

        Moe would sell any dignity he has left for a MU football national championship.
        [/b][/quote]

        Not sure about that, but it would make me a happier guy.
        The Dude abides.

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        • #5
          You don't want him. He's a pimp and says bad things about shitty Rick Neuheisel publicity stunt kickers.
          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law ~

          A.C.

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          • #6
            QUOTE(bombay @ Nov 7 2005, 01:17 PM) Quoted post

            You don't want him. He's a pimp and says bad things about shitty Rick Neuheisel publicity stunt kickers.
            [/b][/quote]


            I'm not deterred.

            [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]
            The Dude abides.

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            • #7
              QUOTE(Moe_Szyslak @ Nov 7 2005, 11:49 AM) Quoted post

              Barnett would look pretty good in Columbia - where he's always wanted to be - no? [/b][/quote]

              The line when he left NU (you know, the day after he told the whole team he was staying) was that CU was his "dream job."

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              • #8
                QUOTE(backstop @ Nov 7 2005, 01:19 PM) Quoted post

                QUOTE(Moe_Szyslak @ Nov 7 2005, 11:49 AM) Quoted post

                Barnett would look pretty good in Columbia - where he's always wanted to be - no? [/b][/quote]

                The line when he left NU (you know, the day after he told the whole team he was staying) was that CU was his "dream job."
                [/b][/quote]

                [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cubs.gif[/img]
                Dude. Can. Fly.

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                • #9
                  QUOTE(backstop @ Nov 7 2005, 01:19 PM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(Moe_Szyslak @ Nov 7 2005, 11:49 AM) Quoted post

                  Barnett would look pretty good in Columbia - where he's always wanted to be - no? [/b][/quote]

                  The line when he left NU (you know, the day after he told the whole team he was staying) was that CU was his "dream job."
                  [/b][/quote]

                  Still says that. He withstood a ridiculous media frenzy and is still standing when Betsy C (term of endearment) Hoffman has resigned as president and Dick Tharp has been replaced as AD. I think he wanted to keep this job.
                  Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law ~

                  A.C.

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                  • #10
                    QUOTE(bombay @ Nov 7 2005, 01:25 PM) Quoted post

                    QUOTE(backstop @ Nov 7 2005, 01:19 PM) Quoted post

                    QUOTE(Moe_Szyslak @ Nov 7 2005, 11:49 AM) Quoted post

                    Barnett would look pretty good in Columbia - where he's always wanted to be - no? [/b][/quote]

                    The line when he left NU (you know, the day after he told the whole team he was staying) was that CU was his "dream job."
                    [/b][/quote]

                    Still says that. He withstood a ridiculous media frenzy and is still standing when Betsy C (term of endearment) Hoffman has resigned as president and Dick Tharp has been replaced as AD. I think he wanted to keep this job.
                    [/b][/quote]

                    So it will be sweeter when he can say f you all and shuffle down I-70 to Columbia, MO...
                    The Dude abides.

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                    • #11
                      QUOTE(dvyyyyyy @ Nov 7 2005, 12:21 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(backstop @ Nov 7 2005, 01:19 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(Moe_Szyslak @ Nov 7 2005, 11:49 AM) Quoted post

                      Barnett would look pretty good in Columbia - where he's always wanted to be - no? [/b][/quote]

                      The line when he left NU (you know, the day after he told the whole team he was staying) was that CU was his "dream job."
                      [/b][/quote]

                      [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cubs.gif[/img]
                      [/b][/quote]

                      QUOTE
                      He refused to play a scheduled game against Iowa, so the Hawkeyes were replaced with Arkansas State.[/b][/quote]

                      Don't know if you saw it, but we just beat the team you're afraid to play.

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                      • #12
                        QUOTE(Moe_Szyslak @ Nov 7 2005, 01:39 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(bombay @ Nov 7 2005, 01:25 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(backstop @ Nov 7 2005, 01:19 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(Moe_Szyslak @ Nov 7 2005, 11:49 AM) Quoted post

                        Barnett would look pretty good in Columbia - where he's always wanted to be - no? [/b][/quote]

                        The line when he left NU (you know, the day after he told the whole team he was staying) was that CU was his "dream job."
                        [/b][/quote]

                        Still says that. He withstood a ridiculous media frenzy and is still standing when Betsy C (term of endearment) Hoffman has resigned as president and Dick Tharp has been replaced as AD. I think he wanted to keep this job.
                        [/b][/quote]

                        So it will be sweeter when he can say f you all and shuffle down I-70 to Columbia, MO...
                        [/b][/quote]

                        [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif[/img]

                        I don't know that a fresh start wouldn't be good for both CU and Barnett, but I'm not convinced he'd leave Boulder for Columbia. If his recruiting doesn't pick up, he may not have a choice a few years from now. Bill McCartney proved you can recruit national champion caliber athletes to Boulder and the 2nd tier guys aren't getting anyone exited, even though Barnett makes the best of what he has.
                        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law ~

                        A.C.

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                        • #13
                          QUOTE(bombay @ Nov 7 2005, 01:47 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(Moe_Szyslak @ Nov 7 2005, 01:39 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(bombay @ Nov 7 2005, 01:25 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(backstop @ Nov 7 2005, 01:19 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(Moe_Szyslak @ Nov 7 2005, 11:49 AM) Quoted post

                          Barnett would look pretty good in Columbia - where he's always wanted to be - no? [/b][/quote]

                          The line when he left NU (you know, the day after he told the whole team he was staying) was that CU was his "dream job."
                          [/b][/quote]

                          Still says that. He withstood a ridiculous media frenzy and is still standing when Betsy C (term of endearment) Hoffman has resigned as president and Dick Tharp has been replaced as AD. I think he wanted to keep this job.
                          [/b][/quote]

                          So it will be sweeter when he can say f you all and shuffle down I-70 to Columbia, MO...
                          [/b][/quote]

                          [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif[/img]

                          I don't know that a fresh start wouldn't be good for both CU and Barnett, but I'm not convinced he'd leave Boulder for Columbia. If his recruiting doesn't pick up, he may not have a choice a few years from now. Bill McCartney proved you can recruit national champion caliber athletes to Boulder and the 2nd tier guys aren't getting anyone exited, even though Barnett makes the best of what he has.
                          [/b][/quote]

                          Barnett will probably sign the extension, but, from his CU bio, "he got his start in the coaching profession at his alma mater, the University of Missouri. After lettering as a senior at wide receiver for legendary head coach Dan Devine, he graduated from MU with a bachelor's degree in social studies in 1969. He earned his master's in education from MU in 1971, working that spring as a graduate assistant under coach Al Onofrio."

                          IF Pinkel would revamp/upgrade his staff, I think he could still succeed. His career record is 100-66-3. Barnett's is 85-79-1.
                          The Dude abides.

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                          • #14
                            Pinkel can't touch Barnett.
                            And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

                            -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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                            • #15
                              QUOTE(Damtoft @ Nov 7 2005, 10:24 PM) Quoted post

                              Pinkel can't touch Barnett.
                              [/b][/quote]

                              I agree he's not in the same class.

                              Last night he got snippy and sarcastic with Mike Kelly on the radio show when MK asked him about the offensive drought the last two weeks.

                              He's in denial. We may well go 7-4, but we're not where we need to be after 5 years either on the field or sidelines. Unreal that he's wasted Brad, while failing to develop him for the pro game. He can't throw well enough even to play in the CFL.
                              The Dude abides.

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