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    Jimmy Carter: Dems must change views on abortion to win WH

    He also details his past friction w/ Bill Clinton, how he felt on John Kerry's failure to relate on religion and how he didn't relate to Kerry....

    Just ran on NBC Nightly News, will have link later....

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    Can't buy what I want because it's free..."
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    It will be on C-SPAN 2...

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    • #3
      QUOTE(210 @ Nov 4 2005, 05:49 PM) Quoted post

      It will be on C-SPAN 2...
      [/b][/quote]
      It'll show up on the other one...trust me: there's only so much shitty programming they can fill on the weekend....

      "Can't buy what I want because it's free...
      Can't buy what I want because it's free..."
      -- Pearl Jam, from the single Corduroy

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      • #4
        The Democrats must stop playing to the quacks and put more emphasis on the average middle class family.
        Make America Great For Once.

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        • #5
          Shouldn't be too hard. I don't think many of them believe in what they preach anyway.
          Asked what he would do differently in Iraq, Kerry said, "Right now, what I would do differently is, I mean, look, I'm not the president, and I didn't create this mess so I don't want to acknowledge a mistake that I haven't made."

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          • #6
            QUOTE(The Kev @ Nov 4 2005, 05:53 PM) Quoted post

            The Democrats must stop playing to the quacks and put more emphasis on the average middle class family.
            [/b][/quote]


            5...4...3...2...1

            til Kah says they need to be even MORE liberal
            Go Cards ...12 in 13.


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            • #7
              QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 11:02 PM) Quoted post

              QUOTE(The Kev @ Nov 4 2005, 05:53 PM) Quoted post

              The Democrats must stop playing to the quacks and put more emphasis on the average middle class family.
              [/b][/quote]


              5...4...3...2...1

              til Kah says they need to be even MORE liberal
              [/b][/quote]

              Serious question then, how are they plating to the quacks?
              Damn these electric sex pants!

              26+31+34+42+44+46+64+67+82+06 = 10

              Bring back the death penalty for corporations!

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              • #8
                I have a better idea.
                How about the Demos at least attempt to give a definitive answer.

                Support gay marriage?
                Y/N

                Support stem cell research?
                Y/N

                etc.

                (Yes I understand there will always be dissent in the party, and that a variety of Repulicans flip-flop and a few Demos do not. I'm talking parties as a whole)

                But just once, stick with your answers. Don't weasel out of them. By trying to offend nobody you gain the interest of nobody.
                "Whaddya mean I hurt your feelings?"
                "I didn't know you                 had any feelings"

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                • #9
                  QUOTE(dredbyrd @ Nov 4 2005, 10:09 PM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 11:02 PM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(The Kev @ Nov 4 2005, 05:53 PM) Quoted post

                  The Democrats must stop playing to the quacks and put more emphasis on the average middle class family.
                  [/b][/quote]


                  5...4...3...2...1

                  til Kah says they need to be even MORE liberal
                  [/b][/quote]

                  Serious question then, how are they plating to the quacks?
                  [/b][/quote]

                  I think where he is coming from is most people don't really care about gay rights

                  The average american wants to know feel comfortable about his future...they don't give a crap about gays, minorities, poor people...quacks is a poor choice of words but Kev tends to excel in that area

                  They need to hammer on the budget, energy, growing the economy, shrinking the deficit...do those things are things will get better a lot of people.

                  Don't make the next election about how bad the Republican candidate is...make it about how the Dems are going to make things better for the average American not the disadvantaged American.
                  Go Cards ...12 in 13.


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                  • #10
                    QUOTE(BurnKU @ Nov 4 2005, 07:08 PM) Quoted post

                    Shouldn't be too hard. I don't think many of them believe in what they preach anyway.
                    [/b][/quote]


                    Ummm...I'd say that goes for both parties, slick...

                    Look no further than current events to support that...
                    " Look, forget the myths the media's created about the White House--the truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand."

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                    • #11
                      QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 10:20 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(dredbyrd @ Nov 4 2005, 10:09 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 11:02 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(The Kev @ Nov 4 2005, 05:53 PM) Quoted post

                      The Democrats must stop playing to the quacks and put more emphasis on the average middle class family.
                      [/b][/quote]


                      5...4...3...2...1

                      til Kah says they need to be even MORE liberal
                      [/b][/quote]

                      Serious question then, how are they plating to the quacks?
                      [/b][/quote]

                      I think where he is coming from is most people don't really care about gay rights

                      The average american wants to know feel comfortable about his future...they don't give a crap about gays, minorities, poor people...quacks is a poor choice of words but Kev tends to excel in that area

                      They need to hammer on the budget, energy, growing the economy, shrinking the deficit...do those things are things will get better a lot of people.

                      Don't make the next election about how bad the Republican candidate is...make it about how the Dems are going to make things better for the average American not the disadvantaged American.
                      [/b][/quote]


                      What they need to do is run on a platform of how to fix what's wrong in America...and be serious about it...

                      Establish some freakin' credibility for your party after you get into office by living up to your promises...instead of spewing a bunch of bullshit just to get into the big chair...

                      That goes for both parties...

                      I can almost flip a coin to vote anymore...because I don't buy the crap that either party tries to sell to gain power...they say it to get elected...not because they have designs on doing half of it...
                      " Look, forget the myths the media's created about the White House--the truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand."

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                      • #12
                        QUOTE(_STLfan_in_DFW @ Nov 4 2005, 10:26 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 10:20 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(dredbyrd @ Nov 4 2005, 10:09 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 11:02 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(The Kev @ Nov 4 2005, 05:53 PM) Quoted post

                        The Democrats must stop playing to the quacks and put more emphasis on the average middle class family.
                        [/b][/quote]


                        5...4...3...2...1

                        til Kah says they need to be even MORE liberal
                        [/b][/quote]

                        Serious question then, how are they plating to the quacks?
                        [/b][/quote]

                        I think where he is coming from is most people don't really care about gay rights

                        The average american wants to know feel comfortable about his future...they don't give a crap about gays, minorities, poor people...quacks is a poor choice of words but Kev tends to excel in that area

                        They need to hammer on the budget, energy, growing the economy, shrinking the deficit...do those things are things will get better a lot of people.

                        Don't make the next election about how bad the Republican candidate is...make it about how the Dems are going to make things better for the average American not the disadvantaged American.
                        [/b][/quote]


                        What they need to do is run on a platform of how to fix what's wrong in America...and be serious about it...

                        Establish some freakin' credibility for your party after you get into office by living up to your promises...instead of spewing a bunch of bullshit just to get into the big chair...

                        That goes for both parties...

                        I can almost flip a coin to vote anymore...because I don't buy the crap that either party tries to sell to gain power...they say it to get elected...not because they have designs on doing half of it...
                        [/b][/quote]

                        ++
                        Pretty much anymore I look at the whole thing and roll mine eyes.

                        As I've said before, I have no love lost for the Repubs, but I would vote for McCain/Powell or some such. Just because those two gentlemen appear honourable and keep their word.
                        "Whaddya mean I hurt your feelings?"
                        "I didn't know you                         had any feelings"

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                        • #13
                          QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 11:20 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(dredbyrd @ Nov 4 2005, 10:09 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 11:02 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(The Kev @ Nov 4 2005, 05:53 PM) Quoted post

                          The Democrats must stop playing to the quacks and put more emphasis on the average middle class family.
                          [/b][/quote]


                          5...4...3...2...1

                          til Kah says they need to be even MORE liberal
                          [/b][/quote]

                          Serious question then, how are they plating to the quacks?
                          [/b][/quote]

                          I think where he is coming from is most people don't really care about gay rights

                          The average american wants to know feel comfortable about his future...they don't give a crap about gays, minorities, poor people...quacks is a poor choice of words but Kev tends to excel in that area

                          They need to hammer on the budget, energy, growing the economy, shrinking the deficit...do those things are things will get better a lot of people.

                          Don't make the next election about how bad the Republican candidate is...make it about how the Dems are going to make things better for the average American not the disadvantaged American.
                          [/b][/quote]

                          While gays, minorities and poor people are typically part of the Democratic constituency, I just don't see many examples where they've actually been appealing to their base.

                          I mean, except locally, here in my state.

                          But that just meant we got bluer. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img] 2 to 1 majority in the house, veto proof majority in the senate. More due to outsider groups I might add, than the party apparatus [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif[/img]
                          Damn these electric sex pants!

                          26+31+34+42+44+46+64+67+82+06 = 10

                          Bring back the death penalty for corporations!

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                          • #14
                            QUOTE(SunuvaNun @ Nov 4 2005, 10:29 PM) Quoted post

                            QUOTE(_STLfan_in_DFW @ Nov 4 2005, 10:26 PM) Quoted post

                            QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 10:20 PM) Quoted post

                            QUOTE(dredbyrd @ Nov 4 2005, 10:09 PM) Quoted post

                            QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 11:02 PM) Quoted post

                            QUOTE(The Kev @ Nov 4 2005, 05:53 PM) Quoted post

                            The Democrats must stop playing to the quacks and put more emphasis on the average middle class family.
                            [/b][/quote]


                            5...4...3...2...1

                            til Kah says they need to be even MORE liberal
                            [/b][/quote]

                            Serious question then, how are they plating to the quacks?
                            [/b][/quote]

                            I think where he is coming from is most people don't really care about gay rights

                            The average american wants to know feel comfortable about his future...they don't give a crap about gays, minorities, poor people...quacks is a poor choice of words but Kev tends to excel in that area

                            They need to hammer on the budget, energy, growing the economy, shrinking the deficit...do those things are things will get better a lot of people.

                            Don't make the next election about how bad the Republican candidate is...make it about how the Dems are going to make things better for the average American not the disadvantaged American.
                            [/b][/quote]


                            What they need to do is run on a platform of how to fix what's wrong in America...and be serious about it...

                            Establish some freakin' credibility for your party after you get into office by living up to your promises...instead of spewing a bunch of bullshit just to get into the big chair...

                            That goes for both parties...

                            I can almost flip a coin to vote anymore...because I don't buy the crap that either party tries to sell to gain power...they say it to get elected...not because they have designs on doing half of it...
                            [/b][/quote]

                            ++
                            Pretty much anymore I look at the whole thing and roll mine eyes.

                            As I've said before, I have no love lost for the Repubs, but I would vote for McCain/Powell or some such. Just because those two gentlemen appear honourable and keep their word.
                            [/b][/quote]

                            ++ on that. Many folks think McCain's an attention whore. I don't necessarily buy that. I think he has good ideas that he wants to get out there.

                            I think McCain's an "old school" politician who's wise to the ways of the 21st century.

                            I come from a heavily Democratic background. As I've gotten older and wiser, I've strayed from the "Vote the party" line of thinking.

                            It's kind of like cheering for the hometown team until you're old enough to realize they suck, and you decide you want to pick a different team to cheer for.
                            " Look, forget the myths the media's created about the White House--the truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand."

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                            • #15
                              QUOTE(TTB @ Nov 4 2005, 10:20 PM) Quoted post


                              I think where he is coming from is most people don't really care about gay rights

                              The average american wants to know feel comfortable about his future...they don't give a crap about gays, minorities, poor people...quacks is a poor choice of words but Kev tends to excel in that area

                              They need to hammer on the budget, energy, growing the economy, shrinking the deficit...do those things are things will get better a lot of people.

                              Don't make the next election about how bad the Republican candidate is...make it about how the Dems are going to make things better for the average American not the disadvantaged American.
                              [/b][/quote]

                              I'm a little confused -- when has any Democratic presidential candidate made the election about how bad the Republican was? Gore didn't -- his campaign bumbled around too much. Kerry didn't -- they never hit hard on Bush's credibility or punch back on swift boats. You're right that this was on the average Democratic voter's mind, but if anything the campaigns didn't play this up enough.

                              Gay right -- the problem the Democrats have is that they play both sides of the issue. Either say you're not ready for that or say you embrace it but that no one cares about it. Both choices are politically sound because they take the issue off the table.

                              Also, Democrats are the ones talking about the thing average Americans care about. For example, health care is for all intents and purposes a Democratic issue and they've been talking about it for seventeen years now. The problem is not that the Democrats aren't talking about the right issues, the problem is that the average American doesn't trust government to implement solutions to these problems. As much as Americans are distrustful of economic power, they're more distrustful of government power right now.

                              Game, set, match...Republicans.
                              On my mind: How can I shut up the singing English graduate student? How many more lossess will KU's basketball team have than its football team? How will the Rams front office screw up this year?


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