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    On Friday – I went to my 4 year old's parent teacher conference along with my wife. My son goes to the Vivian Adams School in East St. Louis. The teacher took an hour with us – perhaps because we were one of 3 parents scheduled to attend (out of 20) – or perhaps because my wife spends on average 4 hours a week volunteering in the class room. Regardless, it was an excellent review of my son (top of the class – only problem is he sometimes speaks out because he is so excited about the lesson that he doesn't let other children get a chance – no I don't know where he got that from (smile)) the school – an entire school for at risk 4 year olds with approximately 300 kids – the curriculum – and the special things available. The school is open from 8 am to about 3:00 and is free. They serve breakfast and lunch and are able to handle allergies and special request – my son brings his lunch everyday because his father's diet (no red meat) is basically unheard of in the school system. They warm it up for him and he eats lunch at the same time as the other children.

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    One of the special classes that they have includes a library reading program. This program teaches the parents how to read to their children. They read hi quality books, many afro centric, and at the end of the class they give each parents the books to take home. My wife tells me this program is now in danger because the test scores from the schools are now pretty good so they may no longer qualify for the grant this program is funded by.



    On Saturday – the same school had an open house for parents. It began at 8 am and went until 1pm. At least 20 door prizes were awarded – with the top prize being a microwave oven. Breakfast and lunch were served and they were both health oriented. There were several workshops on how to teach your kids math and reading, cook for your kids, and on male involvement. Then four other guys and myself that were in the male involvement class stayed in one long session for 3 hours going over some pretty important stuff. We never broke once because the conversation was excellent.



    [size="3"]I just wanted to post this because of all the negatives that are frequently posted. There are efforts being made to help the youth in East St. Louis and at least at the 4 year old level – it appears to be working.
    Turning the other cheek is better than burying the other body.

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  • #2
    Great story Schwa. Glad to hear there are some schoools out there that still give a damn.
    I agree with Davhaf.....Kaiser March 9,2004

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    • #3
      QUOTE(davhaf @ Nov 1 2005, 05:56 AM) Quoted post

      Great story Schwa. Glad to hear there are some schoools out there that still give a damn.
      [/b][/quote]


      Hear hear!!

      Until more parents start giving a damn, many schools will exist only for the professinals to earn a paycheck and a location where the kids can get out of the parent's hair for a few hours each day.

      Keep up the work Schwa. I'd rather be one of the few who actually care, than the sad case of the many who don't give a flip about their child's future.
      Make America Great For Once.

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      • #4
        Thats great!

        I can honestly say I've never had a parent/teacher conference last over 15 minutes.

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        • #5
          Should I be reading my 4 year old books which are afro-centric?

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          • #6
            Gotta start 'em young.

            Or something like that.

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            • #7
              QUOTE(Dr.Gonzo @ Nov 1 2005, 09:41 AM) Quoted post
              Should I be reading my 4 year old books which are afro-centric? [/b][/quote]

              Depends -

              Afro centric books were created from individuals writing about their experience in the African American community. As such they were easier for children from similiar communities to relate to then say books about farm life - or books about going to the beach - or books about life in Russia - or books about life in England.

              If it sparks a kid's interest that is the hope. If a kid is interested he may be more likely to read. For example, my son loves the Thomas the Train series. This is an English story about some talking trains. It sparks his interest so I get him as much of it as possible. My daughter loves Charlie and Lola - another English cartoon - the books won't even be available at Borders until March of 2006. So we download as much stuff as we can and print it out.

              When my kids read Afro centric books they comment on the story - as well as the characters. For example, the teeth book by Dr. Suess has a stanza I think about Donald Driscoll Drue. The pictures is of a dark man a boy a girl and a mother. I have been reading this book for at least 2 years to them and they still say Mommy, Daddy, and their names for the boy and girl. It is the only part of the book they do that on - and they noticed the difference. Again, if it gets them reading or trying to read I am all for it.

              For my son and daughter I have goals -

              Learn to have fun first -

              Enjoy what you have -

              That's pretty much it. By the way - my son is spelling now at 4. Using the Arthur reads game on the computer.
              Turning the other cheek is better than burying the other body.

              Official Sport Lounge Sponsor of Rhode Island - Quincy Jones - Yadier Molina who knows no fear.
              God is stronger and the problem knows it.

              2017 BOTB bracket

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              • #8
                Thomas is Socialist propaganda.

                Nothing but Spongebob and the purple Teletubby for my kid.

                Moon

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                • #9
                  QUOTE(Schwahalala @ Nov 1 2005, 08:54 AM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(Dr.Gonzo @ Nov 1 2005, 09:41 AM) Quoted post
                  Should I be reading my 4 year old books which are afro-centric? [/b][/quote]

                  Depends -

                  Afro centric books were created from individuals writing about their experience in the African American community. As such they were easier for children from similiar communities to relate to then say books about farm life - or books about going to the beach - or books about life in Russia - or books about life in England.

                  If it sparks a kid's interest that is the hope. If a kid is interested he may be more likely to read. For example, my son loves the Thomas the Train series. This is an English story about some talking trains. It sparks his interest so I get him as much of it as possible. My daughter loves Charlie and Lola - another English cartoon - the books won't even be available at Borders until March of 2006. So we download as much stuff as we can and print it out.

                  When my kids read Afro centric books they comment on the story - as well as the characters. For example, the teeth book by Dr. Suess has a stanza I think about Donald Driscoll Drue. The pictures is of a dark man a boy a girl and a mother. I have been reading this book for at least 2 years to them and they still say Mommy, Daddy, and their names for the boy and girl. It is the only part of the book they do that on - and they noticed the difference. Again, if it gets them reading or trying to read I am all for it.

                  For my son and daughter I have goals -

                  Learn to have fun first -

                  Enjoy what you have -

                  That's pretty much it. By the way - my son is spelling now at 4. Using the Arthur reads game on the computer.
                  [/b][/quote]

                  That's awesome.

                  One day I was reading her a book and we came to a page with an african american character.

                  "What's wrong with him daddy?"
                  As I smiled proudly, "Everything honey. That's a negro. They steal cars, smoke crack and kill each other."

                  [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]


                  ok...i'm just kidding. sorry.


                  When she was very little, she used to crack up when she saw a really dark skinned person, but by now she realizes the only difference is that they have a better tan than she ever will.

                  She's just started to spell a little too. Her name and some simple words like Mom, Dad, etc. It's very exciting. I figure it won't be too much longer until she can spell better than Hanke.

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                  • #10
                    QUOTE(Moon Man @ Nov 1 2005, 08:57 AM) Quoted post

                    Thomas is Socialist propaganda.

                    Nothing but Spongebob and the purple Teletubby for my kid.

                    Moon
                    [/b][/quote]

                    So your kid will be gayer than Turd Ferguson at the annual Friar's Sausage Fest?

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                    • #11
                      QUOTE(Dr.Gonzo @ Nov 1 2005, 09:04 AM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(Moon Man @ Nov 1 2005, 08:57 AM) Quoted post

                      Thomas is Socialist propaganda.

                      Nothing but Spongebob and the purple Teletubby for my kid.

                      Moon
                      [/b][/quote]

                      So your kid will be gayer than Turd Ferguson at the annual Friar's Sausage Fest?
                      [/b][/quote]

                      His mother and I can only hope.

                      I'm surprised that your daughter is confused by dark-skinned people since her father is Mexican.

                      Moon

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                      • #12
                        QUOTE(Dr.Gonzo @ Nov 1 2005, 10:03 AM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(Schwahalala @ Nov 1 2005, 08:54 AM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(Dr.Gonzo @ Nov 1 2005, 09:41 AM) Quoted post
                        Should I be reading my 4 year old books which are afro-centric? [/b][/quote]

                        Depends -

                        Afro centric books were created from individuals writing about their experience in the African American community. As such they were easier for children from similiar communities to relate to then say books about farm life - or books about going to the beach - or books about life in Russia - or books about life in England.

                        If it sparks a kid's interest that is the hope. If a kid is interested he may be more likely to read. For example, my son loves the Thomas the Train series. This is an English story about some talking trains. It sparks his interest so I get him as much of it as possible. My daughter loves Charlie and Lola - another English cartoon - the books won't even be available at Borders until March of 2006. So we download as much stuff as we can and print it out.

                        When my kids read Afro centric books they comment on the story - as well as the characters. For example, the teeth book by Dr. Suess has a stanza I think about Donald Driscoll Drue. The pictures is of a dark man a boy a girl and a mother. I have been reading this book for at least 2 years to them and they still say Mommy, Daddy, and their names for the boy and girl. It is the only part of the book they do that on - and they noticed the difference. Again, if it gets them reading or trying to read I am all for it.

                        For my son and daughter I have goals -

                        Learn to have fun first -

                        Enjoy what you have -

                        That's pretty much it. By the way - my son is spelling now at 4. Using the Arthur reads game on the computer.
                        [/b][/quote]

                        That's awesome.

                        One day I was reading her a book and we came to a page with an african american character.

                        "What's wrong with him daddy?"
                        As I smiled proudly, "Everything honey. That's a negro. They steal cars, smoke crack and kill each other."

                        [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]


                        ok...i'm just kidding. sorry.


                        When she was very little, she used to crack up when she saw a really dark skinned person, but by now she realizes the only difference is that they have a better tan than she ever will.

                        She's just started to spell a little too. Her name and some simple words like Mom, Dad, etc. It's very exciting. I figure it won't be too much longer until she can spell better than Hanke.
                        [/b][/quote]


                        If she can spell Mom and Dad, she can already can... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
                        I agree with Davhaf.....Kaiser March 9,2004

                        Official Lounge co-sponsor of Jason Motte.

                        Mick Jagger is in better shape than far too many NBA players. It's up in the air whether the same can be said of Keith Richards.

                        Bill Walton

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                        • #13
                          QUOTE(Moon Man @ Nov 1 2005, 09:11 AM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(Dr.Gonzo @ Nov 1 2005, 09:04 AM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(Moon Man @ Nov 1 2005, 08:57 AM) Quoted post

                          Thomas is Socialist propaganda.

                          Nothing but Spongebob and the purple Teletubby for my kid.

                          Moon
                          [/b][/quote]

                          So your kid will be gayer than Turd Ferguson at the annual Friar's Sausage Fest?
                          [/b][/quote]

                          His mother and I can only hope.

                          I'm surprised that your daughter is confused by dark-skinned people since her father is Mexican.

                          Moon
                          [/b][/quote]

                          God damned Mexicans.

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                          • #14
                            QUOTE(Schwahalala @ Nov 1 2005, 06:24 AM) Quoted post

                            On Friday – I went to my 4 year old's parent teacher conference along with my wife. My son goes to the Vivian Adams School in East St. Louis. The teacher took an hour with us – perhaps because we were one of 3 parents scheduled to attend (out of 20) – or perhaps because my wife spends on average 4 hours a week volunteering in the class room. Regardless, it was an excellent review of my son (top of the class – only problem is he sometimes speaks out because he is so excited about the lesson that he doesn't let other children get a chance – no I don't know where he got that from (smile)) the school – an entire school for at risk 4 year olds with approximately 300 kids – the curriculum – and the special things available. The school is open from 8 am to about 3:00 and is free. They serve breakfast and lunch and are able to handle allergies and special request – my son brings his lunch everyday because his father's diet (no red meat) is basically unheard of in the school system. They warm it up for him and he eats lunch at the same time as the other children.

                            [/size]

                            One of the special classes that they have includes a library reading program. This program teaches the parents how to read to their children. They read hi quality books, many afro centric, and at the end of the class they give each parents the books to take home. My wife tells me this program is now in danger because the test scores from the schools are now pretty good so they may no longer qualify for the grant this program is funded by.



                            On Saturday – the same school had an open house for parents. It began at 8 am and went until 1pm. At least 20 door prizes were awarded – with the top prize being a microwave oven. Breakfast and lunch were served and they were both health oriented. There were several workshops on how to teach your kids math and reading, cook for your kids, and on male involvement. Then four other guys and myself that were in the male involvement class stayed in one long session for 3 hours going over some pretty important stuff. We never broke once because the conversation was excellent.



                            [size="3"]I just wanted to post this because of all the negatives that are frequently posted. There are efforts being made to help the youth in East St. Louis and at least at the 4 year old level – it appears to be working.

                            [/b][/quote]
                            Nice that there are schools like this to address a problem....sad that so few of the parents[15%??] feel the need to show interest in their kids education.

                            It doesn`t strike me that your kid will ever be "at risk",Schwa. Wish everyone cared as much.
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                            • #15
                              QUOTE(blue zone @ Nov 1 2005, 12:41 PM) Quoted post
                              QUOTE(Schwahalala @ Nov 1 2005, 06:24 AM) Quoted post

                              On Friday – I went to my 4 year old's parent teacher conference along with my wife. My son goes to the Vivian Adams School in East St. Louis. The teacher took an hour with us – perhaps because we were one of 3 parents scheduled to attend (out of 20) – or perhaps because my wife spends on average 4 hours a week volunteering in the class room. Regardless, it was an excellent review of my son (top of the class – only problem is he sometimes speaks out because he is so excited about the lesson that he doesn't let other children get a chance – no I don't know where he got that from (smile)) the school – an entire school for at risk 4 year olds with approximately 300 kids – the curriculum – and the special things available. The school is open from 8 am to about 3:00 and is free. They serve breakfast and lunch and are able to handle allergies and special request – my son brings his lunch everyday because his father's diet (no red meat) is basically unheard of in the school system. They warm it up for him and he eats lunch at the same time as the other children.

                              [/size]

                              One of the special classes that they have includes a library reading program. This program teaches the parents how to read to their children. They read hi quality books, many afro centric, and at the end of the class they give each parents the books to take home. My wife tells me this program is now in danger because the test scores from the schools are now pretty good so they may no longer qualify for the grant this program is funded by.

                              [/size]

                              On Saturday – the same school had an open house for parents. It began at 8 am and went until 1pm. At least 20 door prizes were awarded – with the top prize being a microwave oven. Breakfast and lunch were served and they were both health oriented. There were several workshops on how to teach your kids math and reading, cook for your kids, and on male involvement. Then four other guys and myself that were in the male involvement class stayed in one long session for 3 hours going over some pretty important stuff. We never broke once because the conversation was excellent.

                              [size="3"]


                              [size="3"]I just wanted to post this because of all the negatives that are frequently posted. There are efforts being made to help the youth in East St. Louis and at least at the 4 year old level – it appears to be working.

                              [/b][/quote]
                              Nice that there are schools like this to address a problem....sad that so few of the parents[15%??] feel the need to show interest in their kids education.

                              It doesn`t strike me that your kid will ever be "at risk",Schwa. Wish everyone cared as much. [/b][/quote]

                              Thanks -

                              He only got in because of his speech. He didn't really start talking to his baby sister did and he is 18 months older than her. Because of that he used to be a little hard to understand but he is fine now. Also, as a kid, I had to have 6 years of speech myself - trouble with saying the S sound.
                              Turning the other cheek is better than burying the other body.

                              Official Sport Lounge Sponsor of Rhode Island - Quincy Jones - Yadier Molina who knows no fear.
                              God is stronger and the problem knows it.

                              2017 BOTB bracket

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