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    Martz is hot topic on NFL shows
    BY DAN CAESAR
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    10/30/2005


    Rams coach Mike Martz was a big topic of conversation on the NFL television pregame shows Sunday.

    There wasn’t a lot of news that hasn’t already been reported locally regarding the health problems that have led him to stepping down for the rest of the season, and the squabbling inside the organization that strongly indicates that Martz is done as the team’s coach.

    CBS aired an interview that Lesley Visser conducted with Martz on Friday at his home. Among the highlights:

    “I’ve been coaching for 32 years now and I’ve never missed a practice in the offseason or during the season due to illness,” Martz said. “. . . I’m just a spectator, and that kills you.”
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    Visser asked him if he thought he was being set up by the front office.

    “No, I don’t believe that, I don’t believe that at all,” Martz said. “I think (team president) John Shaw is truly concerned about my health, to be honest with you. I think he’s very concerned about my health, he’s told me that.”

    He said he plans to be back with the team next year.

    “I’m assuming I (will be),” he said. “So if that’s not going to be the case, I’m not aware of it.

    “This is the job I’ve always wanted. This is home for us. This is something that we’ve always told our players and coaches, once you become a Ram you’ll always be part of this town for the rest of your life. So to even think about going someplace else, to ever entertain that thought, to me is heresy.”

    The Rams soap opera provided plenty of fodder for the network analysts.

    “No matter what Mike Martz says publicly, he knows he has coached his last game in St. Louis,” ESPN’s’ Chris Mortensen said. “. . . Martz even told me that in contract discussions in June, team president John Shaw explained that the Rams only needed to be a .500 team, occasionally go to the playoffs and suggested that going to the Super Bowl would cost the team money because of expenses incurred by that event.

    “Whatever the context, Martz has one year left on his Rams contract — there will be a settlement, a buyout, whatever you want to call it. And Martz is hopeful that being 20 games above .500 as a coach will get him another gig. But he has to get healthy first. His agent, Bob LaMonte, told Martz this week that he’s never seen a dead man call a good play.”

    CBS’ Boomer Esiason said Martz will be “the most sought-after head coach when he does comes back. Remember, he’s the architect of one of the greatest offenses we’ve ever seen in the NFL.”

    Fox’s Terry Bradshaw said he thinks Houston is be a good spot for Martz.

    “I would pick Houston simply because of his great offensive mind, and they do need some excitement down in Houston,” Bradshaw said. “ I think he’s got a good QB down there (David Carr) and Mike Martz is brilliant offensively and it would be fun to see him (there) if in fact that’s where he goes.”

    Fellow Fox analyst, and former Dallas coach Jimmy Johnson, had the most pointed observation.

    “I like Mike Martz better for a bad team than a contender,” he said.

    ESPN’s Steve Young put the onus on the front office.

    “Stay accountable for the fact you made him your head coach,” Young said. “Whether you like it or not, he’s your guy. If you're going to fire him at the end of the year, fire him. If you’re going to fire him now, fire him.”
    You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

  • #2
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    This is home for us.[/b][/quote]



    blech...
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    • #3
      If that's true, then this franchise is in very bad hands.

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      • #4
        QUOTE
        “I like Mike Martz better for a bad team than a contender,” he said.[/b][/quote]



        ++ He may add excitement to a cellar dweller. As history proves, he will only hamper a talented team.
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        • #5
          He should be the offensive coordinator for the Blah-timore Ravens.

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          • #6
            QUOTE(steveInebriated @ Oct 30 2005, 07:40 PM) Quoted post

            He should be the offensive coordinator for the Blah-timore Ravens.
            [/b][/quote]

            Billick is supposed to be an offensive guru - isn't he?
            And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

            -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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            • #7
              QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Oct 30 2005, 08:36 PM) Quoted post

              “No matter what Mike Martz says publicly, he knows he has coached his last game in St. Louis,” ESPN’s’ Chris Mortensen said. “. . . Martz even told me that in contract discussions in June, team president John Shaw explained that the Rams only needed to be a .500 team, occasionally go to the playoffs and suggested that going to the Super Bowl would cost the team money because of expenses incurred by that event.

              [/b][/quote]

              A glaring indictment that the Rams only care your money, not winning!

              Shaw should be hung from the arch.

              Stan Kroenke should attemp a HOSTILE takeover! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif[/img]

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              • #8
                QUOTE(Damtoft @ Oct 30 2005, 09:33 PM) Quoted post

                QUOTE(steveInebriated @ Oct 30 2005, 07:40 PM) Quoted post

                He should be the offensive coordinator for the Blah-timore Ravens.
                [/b][/quote]

                Billick is supposed to be an offensive guru - isn't he?
                [/b][/quote]


                He wasn't very good on Match Game, circa. 1977. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

                http://www.matchgame.org/bbillick/

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                • #9
                  QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Oct 30 2005, 08:58 PM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(Damtoft @ Oct 30 2005, 09:33 PM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(steveInebriated @ Oct 30 2005, 07:40 PM) Quoted post

                  He should be the offensive coordinator for the Blah-timore Ravens.
                  [/b][/quote]

                  Billick is supposed to be an offensive guru - isn't he?
                  [/b][/quote]


                  He wasn't very good on Match Game, circa. 1977. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

                  http://www.matchgame.org/bbillick/
                  [/b][/quote]
                  He wasn't very good on '7th Heaven' either...

                  "Can't buy what I want because it's free...
                  Can't buy what I want because it's free..."
                  -- Pearl Jam, from the single Corduroy

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                  • #10
                    QUOTE(*007* @ Oct 30 2005, 10:02 PM) Quoted post

                    QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Oct 30 2005, 08:58 PM) Quoted post

                    QUOTE(Damtoft @ Oct 30 2005, 09:33 PM) Quoted post

                    QUOTE(steveInebriated @ Oct 30 2005, 07:40 PM) Quoted post

                    He should be the offensive coordinator for the Blah-timore Ravens.
                    [/b][/quote]

                    Billick is supposed to be an offensive guru - isn't he?
                    [/b][/quote]


                    He wasn't very good on Match Game, circa. 1977. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

                    http://www.matchgame.org/bbillick/
                    [/b][/quote]
                    He wasn't very good on '7th Heaven' either...
                    [/b][/quote]


                    I missed that. I'm not a fan of WB programming.

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                    • #11
                      QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Oct 30 2005, 09:03 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(*007* @ Oct 30 2005, 10:02 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Oct 30 2005, 08:58 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(Damtoft @ Oct 30 2005, 09:33 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(steveInebriated @ Oct 30 2005, 07:40 PM) Quoted post

                      He should be the offensive coordinator for the Blah-timore Ravens.
                      [/b][/quote]

                      Billick is supposed to be an offensive guru - isn't he?
                      [/b][/quote]


                      He wasn't very good on Match Game, circa. 1977. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

                      http://www.matchgame.org/bbillick/
                      [/b][/quote]
                      He wasn't very good on '7th Heaven' either...
                      [/b][/quote]


                      I missed that. I'm not a fan of WB programming.
                      [/b][/quote]
                      He's been the star on it for years...

                      "Can't buy what I want because it's free...
                      Can't buy what I want because it's free..."
                      -- Pearl Jam, from the single Corduroy

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                      • #12
                        QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Oct 30 2005, 08:54 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Oct 30 2005, 08:36 PM) Quoted post

                        “No matter what Mike Martz says publicly, he knows he has coached his last game in St. Louis,” ESPN’s’ Chris Mortensen said. “. . . Martz even told me that in contract discussions in June, team president John Shaw explained that the Rams only needed to be a .500 team, occasionally go to the playoffs and suggested that going to the Super Bowl would cost the team money because of expenses incurred by that event.

                        [/b][/quote]

                        A glaring indictment that the Rams only care your money, not winning!

                        Shaw should be hung from the arch.

                        Stan Kroenke should attemp a HOSTILE takeover! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif[/img]
                        [/b][/quote]
                        Why should they? The city of STL bent over and gave them whatever they wanted to come here, so no matter what they do, they get to live the high-life w/ little accountability....

                        Having said that, I think it's a bullshit line thrown out there by Martz....

                        "Can't buy what I want because it's free...
                        Can't buy what I want because it's free..."
                        -- Pearl Jam, from the single Corduroy

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                        • #13
                          QUOTE(*007* @ Oct 30 2005, 10:04 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Oct 30 2005, 09:03 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(*007* @ Oct 30 2005, 10:02 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Oct 30 2005, 08:58 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(Damtoft @ Oct 30 2005, 09:33 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(steveInebriated @ Oct 30 2005, 07:40 PM) Quoted post

                          He should be the offensive coordinator for the Blah-timore Ravens.
                          [/b][/quote]

                          Billick is supposed to be an offensive guru - isn't he?
                          [/b][/quote]


                          He wasn't very good on Match Game, circa. 1977. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

                          http://www.matchgame.org/bbillick/
                          [/b][/quote]
                          He wasn't very good on '7th Heaven' either...
                          [/b][/quote]


                          I missed that. I'm not a fan of WB programming.
                          [/b][/quote]
                          He's been the star on it for years...
                          [/b][/quote]


                          You mean the preacher dad?

                          I actually thought Billick made an appearance, playing the guy's brother... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

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                          • #14
                            QUOTE(Damtoft @ Oct 30 2005, 08:33 PM) Quoted post
                            QUOTE(steveInebriated @ Oct 30 2005, 07:40 PM) Quoted post

                            He should be the offensive coordinator for the Blah-timore Ravens.
                            [/b][/quote]

                            Billick is supposed to be an offensive guru - isn't he? [/b][/quote]
                            "Supposed to be" = key words.

                            He's been with the team for seven years. He can get a lot of production out of certain players, but I'm worried that his playcalling is getting too predictable.

                            Plus, it'd be nice to get some awesome receivers to compliment Derrick Mason and (we'll see about) Mark Clayton. Oh, and one of those Quarterback thingies, too.

                            Just wait to see the slaughter tomorrow night and you'll know what I mean. The Ravens offense hasn't even put up 20 points in a game yet -- and that's something that the freakin' TEXANS have done.

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                            • #15
                              about Martz, 007, I hope you're right about that being a BS line aimed at sullying Shaw's credibility, otherwise the organization is a joke.

                              True, civic leaders begged them to pound harder, but they must be bound to a competitive standard at least.

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