Payroll to remain the same next year (according to Bernie)

[4thand1]

http://forums.stltoday.com/viewtopic.php?t=307107

[ElviswasaBluesFan]

Ladies and Gentlemen - starting in LF for your 2006 St. Louis Cardinals!

John Gall

[Moon Man]

Angry Pressboxers.

Moon

[JWB]

Chazz made a good point in that thread.

[Guppy]

So Bernie speaks for everyone when he says "WE want 100 million"????

I do? Do you? Does your brother, sister, mom or dad, your best friend, your dog??

[JWB]

QUOTE(Guppy @ Oct 27 2005, 09:19 AM) Quoted post

So Bernie speaks for everyone when he says "WE want 100 million"????

I do? Do you? Does your brother, sister, mom or dad, your best friend, your dog??
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My dog was expecting a payroll increase.

[FAR52]

Well, it's a good thing we built that new stadium so that the increase in revenues will allow the Cards to remain competitive in this climate of increasing salaries for mediocre players.

[Charlie Sheen]

backtracking begins already...

[Iowa_Card]

QUOTE(FAR52 @ Oct 27 2005, 09:20 AM) Quoted post

Well, it's a good thing we built that new stadium so that the increase in revenues will allow the Cards to remain competitive in this climate of increasing salaries for mediocre players. [/b][/quote]

We'll have a chunk of last year's payroll freed up. I think that we can get what we need without going over $90 mil. We already have the power with Rolen (hopefully), Pujols, and Edmonds. We need guys who can get on base, especially with the gaps the new stadium will have. Those types of guys don't inherently cost much.

What we need to be investing the bulk of our free payroll to is starting pitching.

[cardinalgirl]

are they going to ask players to defer money?

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[DLove]

DeWitt can't go on public record as saying they will raise payroll. He just can't do that. It hurts the Cardinals' leverage when it comes to negotiations. I believe they will raise it. It might not be 100, but it'll be near it. I wouldn't be totally shocked if they hit that figure though.

[Gracie]

Edmonds gets a $2M raise
Mulder gets a $1.25M raise
Eckstein gets a $1M raise
Isringhausen gets a $1.75M raise
Albert gets a $3M raise
Carpenter gets up to a $2.5M raise (could be less..I'm too lazy to figure out which incentives he earned in 05)
Walker gets a $1M buyout

Walker's contract falls off the books.--$5.75 paid by the Cards in 2005.
Sanders' contract falls off the books--$4M
Grudzielanek's contract is done--$1M
Morris's contract is done--he wound up making $6.25M in 2005.

So, on the surface...
$16M gone
$12.5M in raises and buyouts

There's a little room to play, but potentially a lot to be replaced--2B, RF, LF, P(s), etc. Should be interesting.

[JWB]

QUOTE(DLove @ Oct 27 2005, 09:52 AM) Quoted post

DeWitt can't go on public record as saying they will raise payroll. He just can't do that. It hurts the Cardinals' leverage when it comes to negotiations. I believe they will raise it. It might not be 100, but it'll be near it. I wouldn't be totally shocked if they hit that figure though.
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That's how I feel.

I think Miklasz just likes to hear himself bitch. He's still ticked off about the new Busch's pressbox.

[kennyboyerfan]

QUOTE(Gracie @ Oct 27 2005, 08:55 AM) Quoted post

Edmonds gets a $2M raise
Mulder gets a $1.25M raise
Eckstein gets a $1M raise
Isringhausen gets a $1.75M raise
Albert gets a $3M raise
Carpenter gets up to a $2.5M raise (could be less..I'm too lazy to figure out which incentives he earned in 05)
Walker gets a $1M buyout

Walker's contract falls off the books.--$5.75 paid by the Cards in 2005.
Sanders' contract falls off the books--$4M
Grudzielanek's contract is done--$1M
Morris's contract is done--he wound up making $6.25M in 2005.

So, on the surface...
$16M gone
$12.5M in raises and buyouts

There's a little room to play, but potentially a lot to be replaced--2B, RF, LF, P(s), etc. Should be interesting.
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Walker gets a buyout even if he's retiring?

[Gracie]

QUOTE(kennyboyerfan @ Oct 27 2005, 09:58 AM) Quoted post

QUOTE(Gracie @ Oct 27 2005, 08:55 AM) Quoted post

Edmonds gets a $2M raise
Mulder gets a $1.25M raise
Eckstein gets a $1M raise
Isringhausen gets a $1.75M raise
Albert gets a $3M raise
Carpenter gets up to a $2.5M raise (could be less..I'm too lazy to figure out which incentives he earned in 05)
Walker gets a $1M buyout

Walker's contract falls off the books.--$5.75 paid by the Cards in 2005.
Sanders' contract falls off the books--$4M
Grudzielanek's contract is done--$1M
Morris's contract is done--he wound up making $6.25M in 2005.

So, on the surface...
$16M gone
$12.5M in raises and buyouts

There's a little room to play, but potentially a lot to be replaced--2B, RF, LF, P(s), etc. Should be interesting.
[/b][/quote]

Walker gets a buyout even if he's retiring?
[/b][/quote]

I guess it would depend on the sequence of events...if he filed his retirement paperwork with MLBPA before the Cards bought him out, then he probably wouldn't...but if he waits until the the deadline for the Cards to exercise his option, then he probably would?

Don't know--I always assumed that players that didn't come back in a team option year got their buyouts.

"It would have been difficult for us to discuss it with his dick in my mouth, so evidently I don't know him that well."