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    http://forums.stltoday.com/viewtopic.php?t=307107

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    • #3
      Angry Pressboxers.

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      • #4
        Chazz made a good point in that thread.
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        • #5
          So Bernie speaks for everyone when he says "WE want 100 million"????

          I do? Do you? Does your brother, sister, mom or dad, your best friend, your dog??
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          • #6
            QUOTE(Guppy @ Oct 27 2005, 09:19 AM) Quoted post

            So Bernie speaks for everyone when he says "WE want 100 million"????

            I do? Do you? Does your brother, sister, mom or dad, your best friend, your dog??
            [/b][/quote]

            My dog was expecting a payroll increase.
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            • #7
              Well, it's a good thing we built that new stadium so that the increase in revenues will allow the Cards to remain competitive in this climate of increasing salaries for mediocre players.
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              • #8
                backtracking begins already...
                You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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                • #9
                  QUOTE(FAR52 @ Oct 27 2005, 09:20 AM) Quoted post
                  Well, it's a good thing we built that new stadium so that the increase in revenues will allow the Cards to remain competitive in this climate of increasing salaries for mediocre players. [/b][/quote]

                  We'll have a chunk of last year's payroll freed up. I think that we can get what we need without going over $90 mil. We already have the power with Rolen (hopefully), Pujols, and Edmonds. We need guys who can get on base, especially with the gaps the new stadium will have. Those types of guys don't inherently cost much.

                  What we need to be investing the bulk of our free payroll to is starting pitching.

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                    are they going to ask players to defer money?

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                    • #11
                      DeWitt can't go on public record as saying they will raise payroll. He just can't do that. It hurts the Cardinals' leverage when it comes to negotiations. I believe they will raise it. It might not be 100, but it'll be near it. I wouldn't be totally shocked if they hit that figure though.


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                      • #12
                        Edmonds gets a $2M raise
                        Mulder gets a $1.25M raise
                        Eckstein gets a $1M raise
                        Isringhausen gets a $1.75M raise
                        Albert gets a $3M raise
                        Carpenter gets up to a $2.5M raise (could be less..I'm too lazy to figure out which incentives he earned in 05)
                        Walker gets a $1M buyout

                        Walker's contract falls off the books.--$5.75 paid by the Cards in 2005.
                        Sanders' contract falls off the books--$4M
                        Grudzielanek's contract is done--$1M
                        Morris's contract is done--he wound up making $6.25M in 2005.

                        So, on the surface...
                        $16M gone
                        $12.5M in raises and buyouts

                        There's a little room to play, but potentially a lot to be replaced--2B, RF, LF, P(s), etc. Should be interesting.
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                        • #13
                          QUOTE(DLove @ Oct 27 2005, 09:52 AM) Quoted post

                          DeWitt can't go on public record as saying they will raise payroll. He just can't do that. It hurts the Cardinals' leverage when it comes to negotiations. I believe they will raise it. It might not be 100, but it'll be near it. I wouldn't be totally shocked if they hit that figure though.
                          [/b][/quote]

                          That's how I feel.

                          I think Miklasz just likes to hear himself bitch. He's still ticked off about the new Busch's pressbox.
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                          • #14
                            QUOTE(Gracie @ Oct 27 2005, 08:55 AM) Quoted post

                            Edmonds gets a $2M raise
                            Mulder gets a $1.25M raise
                            Eckstein gets a $1M raise
                            Isringhausen gets a $1.75M raise
                            Albert gets a $3M raise
                            Carpenter gets up to a $2.5M raise (could be less..I'm too lazy to figure out which incentives he earned in 05)
                            Walker gets a $1M buyout

                            Walker's contract falls off the books.--$5.75 paid by the Cards in 2005.
                            Sanders' contract falls off the books--$4M
                            Grudzielanek's contract is done--$1M
                            Morris's contract is done--he wound up making $6.25M in 2005.

                            So, on the surface...
                            $16M gone
                            $12.5M in raises and buyouts

                            There's a little room to play, but potentially a lot to be replaced--2B, RF, LF, P(s), etc. Should be interesting.
                            [/b][/quote]

                            Walker gets a buyout even if he's retiring?
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                            • #15
                              QUOTE(kennyboyerfan @ Oct 27 2005, 09:58 AM) Quoted post

                              QUOTE(Gracie @ Oct 27 2005, 08:55 AM) Quoted post

                              Edmonds gets a $2M raise
                              Mulder gets a $1.25M raise
                              Eckstein gets a $1M raise
                              Isringhausen gets a $1.75M raise
                              Albert gets a $3M raise
                              Carpenter gets up to a $2.5M raise (could be less..I'm too lazy to figure out which incentives he earned in 05)
                              Walker gets a $1M buyout

                              Walker's contract falls off the books.--$5.75 paid by the Cards in 2005.
                              Sanders' contract falls off the books--$4M
                              Grudzielanek's contract is done--$1M
                              Morris's contract is done--he wound up making $6.25M in 2005.

                              So, on the surface...
                              $16M gone
                              $12.5M in raises and buyouts

                              There's a little room to play, but potentially a lot to be replaced--2B, RF, LF, P(s), etc. Should be interesting.
                              [/b][/quote]

                              Walker gets a buyout even if he's retiring?
                              [/b][/quote]

                              I guess it would depend on the sequence of events...if he filed his retirement paperwork with MLBPA before the Cards bought him out, then he probably wouldn't...but if he waits until the the deadline for the Cards to exercise his option, then he probably would?

                              Don't know--I always assumed that players that didn't come back in a team option year got their buyouts.
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