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    Hello All -

    Been fighting with my server since I was hacked a few weeks ago - decided it was a golden opportunity to install Windows Server 2003, the expensive bad boy that I managed to pick up an inexpensive copy of. It has IIS. It has Exchange. It has a host of friggin' stuff.

    And it is damn-near impossible to configure. I've been struggling with it for weeks. Because I want to get my web server back up before I die of old age, I'm putting aside the mighty Microsoft product and looking for Linux distros. I was all set to go with SuSE Linux, but then, one of the enlightened turned me on to a new and super-cool distro: Ubuntu. It just won first place in the UK for best Linux distro, and it has a unique emphasis, namely around integrated user interface, an area most Linux distros are weak in. But as you can surmise from the thread title, it didn't matter once I heard the name. I just like the idea of logging into an "Ubuntu Server" or "tweaking my Ubuntu".

    For you geekazoids, this is an ultra-small, totally-free, and super-easy to install Linux distro. It's available at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ - you only have to download one CD. And then you too can Ubuntu.

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    It's not too often that I open up a post, read it, and still have no idea whatsoever what the person is talking about. What's a "distro"?
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    • #3
      QUOTE(kah @ Oct 15 2005, 06:45 AM) Quoted post

      It's not too often that I open up a post, read it, and still have no idea whatsoever what the person is talking about. What's a "distro"?
      [/b][/quote]

      A "distro" is a "distribution", the fundamental unit of Linux. You don't get "Linux" for your computer, you get a specific version, or "distribution" of it. Red Hat is the most popular in North America, though not for long because they have given up on individuals in favor of corporate services. You can choose to install such versions as "SuSE", "Mandrake", or "Lindows". The fundamentals are the same throughout all distros, they differ mostly in the support packages and in the installation methods.

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        QUOTE(Airshark @ Oct 15 2005, 06:34 AM) Quoted post

        Hello All -

        Been fighting with my server since I was hacked a few weeks ago - decided it was a golden opportunity to install Windows Server 2003, the expensive bad boy that I managed to pick up an inexpensive copy of. It has IIS. It has Exchange. It has a host of friggin' stuff.

        And it is damn-near impossible to configure. I've been struggling with it for weeks. Because I want to get my web server back up before I die of old age, I'm putting aside the mighty Microsoft product and looking for Linux distros. I was all set to go with SuSE Linux, but then, one of the enlightened turned me on to a new and super-cool distro: Ubuntu. It just won first place in the UK for best Linux distro, and it has a unique emphasis, namely around integrated user interface, an area most Linux distros are weak in. But as you can surmise from the thread title, it didn't matter once I heard the name. I just like the idea of logging into an "Ubuntu Server" or "tweaking my Ubuntu".

        For you geekazoids, this is an ultra-small, totally-free, and super-easy to install Linux distro. It's available at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ - you only have to download one CD. And then you too can Ubuntu.
        [/b][/quote]


        You even wanted to futz with IIS? You're either brave or strange, I refuse to touch that nightmare. Rest of the server suite I can tolerate but that infernal IIS...

        (Of course you wouldn't have these problem if you'd quit using hacked distros. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img])

        But seriously, Ubuntu isn't too bad and it's a lot more friendly than most of the traditional versions, plus unlike the other ones who are more friendly it doesn't start up an ass-load of services right from the beginning.
        And once you start using Apache I can virtually guarantee you'll never be able to stand IIS again.
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          This topic has been moved to the Airshark & Dorks, Inc. Forum.
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          • #6
            QUOTE(Ohio Blues @ Oct 15 2005, 11:20 AM) Quoted post

            This topic has been moved to the Airshark & Dorks, Inc. Forum.
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            • #7
              Me feely dumb. Me not understand muchy.

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              • #8
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                The Ubuntu community is built on the ideas enshrined in the Ubuntu Manifesto: that software should be available free of charge, that software tools should be usable by people in their local language and despite any disabilities, and that people should have the freedom to customise and alter their software in whatever way they see fit.[/b][/quote]



                Manifesto?? Damn that word in here will have this banned as a socialist / commie conspiracy.
                Be passionate about what you believe in, or why bother.

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                • #9
                  Ubuntu -- is that the same as playing small ball? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif[/img]
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                  • #10
                    QUOTE(madyaks @ Oct 15 2005, 11:53 AM) Quoted post

                    QUOTE
                    The Ubuntu community is built on the ideas enshrined in the Ubuntu Manifesto: that software should be available free of charge, that software tools should be usable by people in their local language and despite any disabilities, and that people should have the freedom to customise and alter their software in whatever way they see fit.[/b][/quote]



                    Manifesto?? Damn that word in here will have this banned as a socialist / commie conspiracy.
                    [/b][/quote]

                    Only if you're involved.
                    And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

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                    • #11
                      QUOTE(kah @ Oct 15 2005, 06:45 AM) Quoted post

                      It's not too often that I open up a post, read it, and still have no idea whatsoever what the person is talking about. What's a "distro"?
                      [/b][/quote]

                      Of course you do.

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                      • #12
                        QUOTE(SunuvaNun @ Oct 15 2005, 11:14 AM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(Airshark @ Oct 15 2005, 06:34 AM) Quoted post

                        Hello All -

                        Been fighting with my server since I was hacked a few weeks ago - decided it was a golden opportunity to install Windows Server 2003, the expensive bad boy that I managed to pick up an inexpensive copy of. It has IIS. It has Exchange. It has a host of friggin' stuff.

                        And it is damn-near impossible to configure. I've been struggling with it for weeks. Because I want to get my web server back up before I die of old age, I'm putting aside the mighty Microsoft product and looking for Linux distros. I was all set to go with SuSE Linux, but then, one of the enlightened turned me on to a new and super-cool distro: Ubuntu. It just won first place in the UK for best Linux distro, and it has a unique emphasis, namely around integrated user interface, an area most Linux distros are weak in. But as you can surmise from the thread title, it didn't matter once I heard the name. I just like the idea of logging into an "Ubuntu Server" or "tweaking my Ubuntu".

                        For you geekazoids, this is an ultra-small, totally-free, and super-easy to install Linux distro. It's available at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ - you only have to download one CD. And then you too can Ubuntu.
                        [/b][/quote]


                        You even wanted to futz with IIS? You're either brave or strange, I refuse to touch that nightmare. Rest of the server suite I can tolerate but that infernal IIS...

                        (Of course you wouldn't have these problem if you'd quit using hacked distros. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img])

                        But seriously, Ubuntu isn't too bad and it's a lot more friendly than most of the traditional versions, plus unlike the other ones who are more friendly it doesn't start up an ass-load of services right from the beginning.
                        And once you start using Apache I can virtually guarantee you'll never be able to stand IIS again.
                        [/b][/quote]

                        The reason I wanted to futz with IIS is that there is a feature, Outlook Web Access, that I really wanted to use. Plus I wanted to get my DNS and DHCP servers unified, and SAMBA has been a nightmare for me in the past, so Server 2003 appeared to be the best file-server solution. Of course the best solution was, again, multiple machines. Fast Windows box on Windows net = good file server; stuff that actually faces the internet = Linux boxes. I'll figure out the OWA some other day.

                        The web server being replaced by a Server 2003 installation was in fact an Apache server. I've been running at least one for years. If it hadn't been for SAMBA problems, the machine would never have been running anything but Red Hat, because that's what was on there before. Linux can be hacked. I know first hand. It helps if you're stupid and leave firewall ports open accidentally, which is what I did.

                        Meh. I wanted to simplify my network, but now it looks like three machines (NAS file archive, Linux Web server, Windows file/DNS/WINS server) will replace one (Linux web file/server). This is undoubtedly much more secure and more performant than my previous setup, but it rankles. I guess I do have a completely new service (file archive) that I didn't before.

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