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    Nice...
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051014/...r_wh/bush_iraq
    Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer 23 minutes ago

    It was billed as a conversation with U.S. troops, but the questions President Bush asked on a teleconference call Thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in Iraq and Saturday's vote on a new Iraqi constitution.

    "This is an important time," Allison Barber, deputy assistant defense secretary, said, coaching the soldiers before Bush arrived. "The president is looking forward to having just a conversation with you."

    Barber said the president was interested in three topics: the overall security situation in Iraq, security preparations for the weekend vote and efforts to train Iraqi troops.

    As she spoke in Washington, a live shot of 10 soldiers from the Army's 42nd Infantry Division and one Iraqi soldier was beamed into the Eisenhower Executive Office Building from Tikrit — the birthplace of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

    "I'm going to ask somebody to grab those two water bottles against the wall and move them out of the camera shot for me," Barber said.

    A brief rehearsal ensued.

    "OK, so let's just walk through this," Barber said. "Captain Kennedy, you answer the first question and you hand the mike to whom?"

    "Captain Smith," Kennedy said.

    "Captain. Smith? You take the mike and you hand it to whom?" she asked.

    "Captain Kennedy," the soldier replied.

    And so it went.

    "If the question comes up about partnering — how often do we train with the Iraqi military — who does he go to?" Barber asked.

    "That's going to go to Captain Pratt," one of the soldiers said.

    "And then if we're going to talk a little bit about the folks in Tikrit — the hometown — and how they're handling the political process, who are we going to give that to?" she asked.

    Before he took questions, Bush thanked the soldiers for serving and reassured them that the U.S. would not pull out of Iraq until the mission was complete.

    "So long as I'm the president, we're never going to back down, we're never going to give in, we'll never accept anything less than total victory," Bush said.

    The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.

    "You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said.

    Less than 40 percent in an AP-Ipsos poll taken in October said they approved of the way Bush was handling Iraq. Just over half of the public now say the Iraq war was a mistake.

    White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Thursday's event was coordinated with the Defense Department but that the troops were expressing their own thoughts. With satellite feeds, coordination often is needed to overcome technological challenges, such as delays, he said.

    "I think all they were doing was talking to the troops and letting them know what to expect," he said, adding that the president wanted to talk with troops on the ground who have firsthand knowledge about the situation.

    The soldiers all gave Bush an upbeat view of the situation.

    The president also got praise from the Iraqi soldier who was part of the chat.

    "Thank you very much for everything," he gushed. "I like you."

    On preparations for the vote, 1st Lt. Gregg Murphy of Tennessee said: "Sir, we are prepared to do whatever it takes to make this thing a success. ... Back in January, when we were preparing for that election, we had to lead the way. We set up the coordination, we made the plan. We're really happy to see, during the preparation for this one, sir, they're doing everything."

    On the training of Iraqi security forces, Master Sgt. Corine Lombardo from Scotia, N.Y., said to Bush: "I can tell you over the past 10 months, we've seen a tremendous increase in the capabilities and the confidences of our Iraqi security force partners. ... Over the next month, we anticipate seeing at least one-third of those Iraqi forces conducting independent operations."

    Lombardo told the president that she was in New York City on Nov. 11, 2001, when Bush attended an event recognizing soldiers for their recovery and rescue efforts at Ground Zero. She said the troops began the fight against terrorism in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and were proud to continue it in Iraq.

    "I thought you looked familiar," Bush said, and then joked: "I probably look familiar to you, too."

    Paul Rieckhoff, director of the New York-based Operation Truth, an advocacy group for U.S. veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan, denounced the event as a "carefully scripted publicity stunt." Five of the 10 U.S. troops involved were officers, he said.

    "If he wants the real opinions of the troops, he can't do it in a nationally televised teleconference," Rieckhoff said. "He needs to be talking to the boots on the ground and that's not a bunch of captains."


    Sadly there are apologists here and elsewhere that still defend this fraud. Of course you can expect such stupidity from douchebags like Reg, but people with a cerebrum should know better.
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  • #2
    They questioned the white house press secretary about it, it wouldn't deny it, but kept asking "are you suggesting they didn't mean what they said?"

    No dumb ass we are asking if you told them what to say and how to say it.
    Be passionate about what you believe in, or why bother.

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    • #3
      The most interesting thing about this is not that the teleconference was staged--let's face it, we've known this is SOP for the Bushies for some time--but that the fact that it was staged became a big story. It wasn't too long ago that the press wouldn't have dared to make Dubya look bad by reporting on a staged photo op like this. At least, it wouldn't have been on the front page of Yahoo!.

      For my money, the quote below is far, far more embarrasing than the fact of the clumsily staged teleconference. From our fearless leader, our steely-eyed warrior, President Flight Suit, Mr. "Bring 'em on", came the following words:

      QUOTE
      I wish I could be there to see you face-to-face, to thank you personally. It's probably a little early for me to go to Tikrit, but one of these days perhaps the situation will be such that I'll be able to get back to Iraq...[/b][/quote]

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...0/20051013.html

      Sweet merciful crap. "It's a little too dangerous for me to go there right now, boys...good luck dodging bullets and such..."
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      • #4
        It's no accident that W's approval rating has gone deep into the crapper.
        Make America Great For Once.

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        • #5
          The whole goddamn war has been staged! Bush went after Saddam instead of Bin Laden because he could catch Saddam.

          If he went after Bin Laden, he'd have wound up looking like Wile E. Coyote chasing Roadrunner!

          It's all about oil, & it's all about avenging his daddy's fuck up in the 1st Gulf War.

          We're supposed to have the greatest military, but apparently, we don't have the greatest INTELLIGENCE!

          Why do our troops have to repeatedly have to be picked off by snipers & roadside bombers?

          I think we need more bombing missions, better intelligence, & NAPALM!!

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          • #6
            Did I miss the part that said they told the soldiers what to say?

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            • #7
              outrage

              Is this really a story? Seriously. With the playoffs and work, current events and me are a bit removed.

              With everything going on, this is what we choose to fill the papers with...







              QUOTE
              For my money, the quote below is far, far more embarrasing than the fact of the clumsily staged teleconference. From our fearless leader, our steely-eyed warrior, President Flight Suit, Mr. "Bring 'em on", came the following words:
              QUOTE
              I wish I could be there to see you face-to-face, to thank you personally. It's probably a little early for me to go to Tikrit, but one of these days perhaps the situation will be such that I'll be able to get back to Iraq...[/b][/quote]

              http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...0/20051013.html

              Sweet merciful crap. "It's a little too dangerous for me to go there right now, boys...good luck dodging bullets and such..."[/b][/quote]

              Agreed
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              • #8
                QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Oct 14 2005, 05:03 AM) Quoted post
                The whole goddamn war has been staged! Bush went after Saddam instead of Bin Laden because he could catch Saddam.

                If he went after Bin Laden, he'd have wound up looking like Wile E. Coyote chasing Roadrunner!

                It's all about oil, & it's all about avenging his daddy's fuck up in the 1st Gulf War.

                We're supposed to have the greatest military, but apparently, we don't have the greatest INTELLIGENCE!

                Why do our troops have to repeatedly have to be picked off by snipers & roadside bombers?
                [/b][/quote]



                Yaks?
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                • #9
                  QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 14 2005, 09:49 AM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Oct 14 2005, 05:03 AM) Quoted post
                  The whole goddamn war has been staged! Bush went after Saddam instead of Bin Laden because he could catch Saddam.

                  If he went after Bin Laden, he'd have wound up looking like Wile E. Coyote chasing Roadrunner!

                  It's all about oil, & it's all about avenging his daddy's fuck up in the 1st Gulf War.

                  We're supposed to have the greatest military, but apparently, we don't have the greatest INTELLIGENCE!

                  Why do our troops have to repeatedly have to be picked off by snipers & roadside bombers?
                  [/b][/quote]



                  Yaks?
                  [/b][/quote]

                  Just a regular American.
                  No president wants war. Everything you may have heard is that, but it's just simply not true
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                  • #10
                    QUOTE(mw.2 @ Oct 14 2005, 06:53 AM) Quoted post
                    QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 14 2005, 09:49 AM) Quoted post

                    QUOTE(Jack Daniels @ Oct 14 2005, 05:03 AM) Quoted post
                    The whole goddamn war has been staged! Bush went after Saddam instead of Bin Laden because he could catch Saddam.

                    If he went after Bin Laden, he'd have wound up looking like Wile E. Coyote chasing Roadrunner!

                    It's all about oil, & it's all about avenging his daddy's fuck up in the 1st Gulf War.

                    We're supposed to have the greatest military, but apparently, we don't have the greatest INTELLIGENCE!

                    Why do our troops have to repeatedly have to be picked off by snipers & roadside bombers?
                    [/b][/quote]



                    Yaks?
                    [/b][/quote]

                    Just a regular American. [/b][/quote]



                    barry we're in trouble then
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                    • #11
                      If Clinton had been the president that shifted from Bin Laden to Saddam, I promise you that the Hannittys and O'Reillys would have endlessly spouted off, saying stuff like...

                      "How could the president take his eye off the ball and not keep the focus on the person that masterminded 911?"

                      "And then invade a country that had nothing to do with 911 on the premise of weapons of mass destruction that werent even there?"

                      "Because he lied to the American people about Iraq, we are now stuck in a situation that is getting our soldiers killed daily!"

                      "He should be impeached! He is treasonous!"

                      Thats why I say that partisan talking heads do more to hurt the country than to help it. People are stupid enough to be influenced by them and buy into the biased bs that they are selling.
                      “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.”

                      Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in.

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                      • #12
                        QUOTE
                        QUESTION: How were they selected, and are their comments to the president pre-screened, any questions or anything...

                        MCCLELLAN: No.

                        QUESTION: Not at all?

                        MCCLELLAN: This is a back-and-forth.

                        [/b][/quote]

                        QUOTE
                        "Was the event with the troops choreographed?"

                        "No. But talk to the DOD about that. I don't think it was rehearsed."
                        [/b][/quote]

                        Always best not to show the actual rehearsal, before lying that there was no rehearsal.
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                        For more than 20 years I have endeavored-indeed, I have struggled-along with a majority of this Court, to develop procedural & substantive rules that would lend more than the mere appearance of fairness to the death penalty endeavor.


                        I feel morally and intellectually obligated simply to concede that the death penalty experiment has failed.

                        The path the Court has chosen lessens us all. I dissent.

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                        • #13
                          I'm left with the following question:

                          Why?

                          I mean, no one is buying this any more. Very strange.
                          Dude. Can. Fly.

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                          • #14
                            I guess they still think people are as stupid as they were on November 2nd, 2004...
                            “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.”

                            Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in.

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                            • #15
                              QUOTE(Razzy @ Oct 14 2005, 09:37 AM) Quoted post

                              I guess they still think people are as stupid as they were on November 2nd, 2004...
                              [/b][/quote]

                              He's still a better choice than Kerry believe it or not.


                              QUOTE
                              The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.

                              "You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said.

                              Less than 40 percent in an AP-Ipsos poll taken in October said they approved of the way Bush was handling Iraq. Just over half of the public now say the Iraq war was a mistake. [/b][/quote]

                              Yeah, there's no bias there. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif[/img] I thought it was possible to support the troops even if not the war?


                              This story is being blown WAY out of proportion. Despite the Administrations secrets and poor handling of situations (see McClellan), there's no story here unless soldiers were told what to say. The fact that so much is being made of this says a lot about the media.
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