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    Can't he just shut up, do what he's told, and collect his ring at the end? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]

    Marquis considers relief role a demotion
    By Joe Strauss
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    10/13/2005

    The day after pitching coach Dave Duncan notified him that he would work in relief for the National League Championship Series, reassigned starting pitcher Jason Marquis described the move as a demotion and voiced dissatisfaction with the move.

    "If I'm not in the role that I feel best-suited for, so obviously I'm not happy about it," said Marquis, who did not appear during the Cardinals' three-game sweep of the San Diego Padres in the division series. "And if anybody in my situation said that they were, they'd be lying."

    Marquis last appeared Sept. 27, in relief, and he hasn't started since Sept. 21.

    "I'm used to preparing mentally and physically to go out every five days," he said. "Obviously, it's something I don't enjoy doing, pitching out of the bullpen."

    Marquis said the decision to start Jeff Suppan in Game 4 behind Chris Carpenter, Mark Mulder and Matt Morris stunned him because of his seasonlong success against the Houston Astros.

    After an 8-3 start, Marquis went 13-14 with a 4.13 ERA this season. His 13 wins were the fewest and his ERA the highest in the rotation that led major leagues in wins.

    However, Marquis was 4-0 with a 3.22 ERA in six appearances, including five starts, against the Astros. Suppan did not face the NL wild card this season.

    Marquis also believed his ability to pitch on short rest would have made him available for a possible Game 7.

    Manager Tony La Russa and Duncan initially postponed announcing a Game 4 starter because of concern for Mulder, who took a line drive off his left biceps in Game 2 of the first round against the Padres. Mulder completed a side session Tuesday and reported further improvement Wednesday.

    Had Mulder been unable to start, Suppan would have pitched Game 2 tonight followed by Morris, La Russa said.

    Marquis said: "I know the thing that happened with Mulder affected their decision. But you would think 1-2-3 would stay the same after the division series. I know if I pitch Game 4, I have the capacity to come back on Game 7 if something freak happened to Morris, or if they needed me out of the bullpen then. I've pitched on three days this year. I've told them all year I could pitch on three days' rest."

    Marquis threw his first career shutout Aug. 27 on short rest against the Washington Nationals. The outing began a late-season rush in which Marquis was 4-1 with six earned runs allowed in 39 innings over five starts.

    Suppan was the Cardinals' best starter in September, going 3-0 with a 1.93 ERA in five starts. He was 4-0 in his last six starts, allowing seven earned runs and 28 hits in 37 2/3 innings.

    La Russa did not classify Marquis' reassignment as a demotion, saying instead it was a response to Al Reyes missing the postseason with a ruptured ligament suffered on the final day of the regular season.

    "If we had Al Reyes healthy, then I think Jason would pitch Game 4 because of the success he's had against Houston and especially in that ballpark," La Russa said.

    Marquis said he had not discussed the reassignment with La Russa and saw no need for a meeting.

    "At this point, what good would it do? What's it going to change?" Marquis said.

    Neither Suppan nor Marquis were told of their roles in the first round. Marquis hurriedly warmed up when Mulder was struck by Padres third baseman Joe Randa's line drive in Game 2 but did not appear. He and Suppan then warmed up alongside each other in the seventh inning.

    After the Cardinals' clincher, Duncan said Suppan would have started Game 4.

    La Russa and Duncan say they think Marquis' resilience could make him available for consecutive games, though La Russa said Wednesday he would look for ways to have Marquis start innings rather than enter a rally.
    Dude. Can. Fly.

  • #2
    I wonder what he'd consider being left off the WS roster as being?

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    • #3
      now i hope that this was in responce to some one asking him many times how he felt. if not the STFU!!!

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      • #4
        Guy is a horse with premium stuff, but he is a spoiled brat.

        If he ever pulled his head out of his ass, he's a winner. If not well...settle for mediocrity bud.

        I don't mind him being upset, that's the fire, confidence and determination you want in a starter, but there is a time and a way to communicate that or even look back on it.

        Don't fuck this up Jay, over some pettyass personal bullshit. Seriously dickwad.
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        • #5
          Bad timing to be sure. But don't you think LaRussa or Duncan ought to at least tell Suppan and Marquis what roles they were expected to fill in a one-on-one conversation? Even if it took 2 minutes, I think you tell the guy "Hey, this is what we need from you. I know you probably aren't happy about it, but we need to do this for the team." What is the point in not even talking to the guy?

          Moon

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          • #6
            I'm glad he's bitching. It'll make him angry when he pitches.

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            • #7
              QUOTE(Moon Man @ Oct 13 2005, 07:04 AM) Quoted post

              Bad timing to be sure. But don't you think LaRussa or Duncan ought to at least tell Suppan and Marquis what roles they were expected to fill in a one-on-one conversation? Even if it took 2 minutes, I think you tell the guy "Hey, this is what we need from you. I know you probably aren't happy about it, but we need to do this for the team." What is the point in not even talking to the guy?

              Moon
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              Good question.
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              • #8
                Communication isnt TLR's strong suit.

                That said, Marquis could have picked a better time to gripe. Or just shut up.

                But I guess he felt as if he had to vent to somebody, since he wouldnt go to TLR with his concerns.

                And, after this season, he is gone. Bank on it.
                “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.”

                Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in.

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                • #9
                  QUOTE(Razzy @ Oct 13 2005, 08:49 AM) Quoted post

                  Communication isnt TLR's strong suit.

                  That said, Marquis could have picked a better time to gripe. Or just shut up.

                  But I guess he felt as if he had to vent to somebody, since he wouldnt go to TLR with his concerns.

                  And, after this season, he is gone. Bank on it.
                  [/b][/quote]
                  Razzy, I don't think Marquis leaving is a foregone conclusion anymore. Before his recovery, I think he was gone for sure but I think he's pitched himself back into next year's rotation. I think it's more likely that Morris is leaving, and Anthony Reyes will nicely slide into his spot in the rotation, but there's nobody else in the minors ready to slide into Jason's spot either if he were to leave. The Free Agent crop of pitchers isn't all that impressive, to the best of my recollection, nor do I think Walt will be willing to spend big dollars on any guy out there, as he shouldn't. Unless there's somebody on the trade block whom Walt can acquire, I think Marquis will be suitable again as a fifth starter.

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                  • #10
                    what a self centered little fuckin baby.

                    the cards don't need this shit right now.

                    what ever to "i'll do whatever i need to do to help my team to win a world series."

                    instead of i'm pissed, i should be starting, i'm better than him.

                    hey look at me. i didn't get my way.

                    sounds like that fuckin mclaughlin.

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                    • #11
                      STFU and pitch Jason.

                      And now that you've opened your piehole, you better pitch well.

                      Jesus Christ.

                      But don't worry. This won't be an issue next season when you're pitching for the Diamondbacks, the Tigers or the Devil Rays.
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                      • #12
                        Ok, I just rta.

                        He is a big ass baby.

                        Doesn't feel like he needs a meeting with Tony, but feels like he can talk to a reporter.

                        Asshat.

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                        • #13
                          "I'm used to preparing mentally and physically to go out every five days," he said. "Obviously, it's something I don't enjoy doing, pitching out of the bullpen."


                          I wonder 2 things:

                          * Will Jason like it more if he was with the Devil Rays right now?

                          * Wonder if Anthony Reyes would mind pitching out of the bullpen in the World Series? Since it seems to bother Jason so much ...
                          Dude. Can. Fly.

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                          • #14
                            QUOTE(dvyyyyyy @ Oct 13 2005, 09:16 AM) Quoted post

                            "I'm used to preparing mentally and physically to go out every five days," he said. "Obviously, it's something I don't enjoy doing, pitching out of the bullpen."


                            I wonder 2 things:

                            * Will Jason like it more if he was with the Devil Rays right now?

                            * Wonder if Anthony Reyes would mind pitching out of the bullpen in the World Series? Since it seems to bother Jason so much ...
                            [/b][/quote]

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                            • #15
                              QUOTE
                              "If I'm not in the role that I feel best-suited for, so obviously I'm not happy about it," said Marquis, who did not appear during the Cardinals' three-game sweep of the San Diego Padres in the division series. "And if anybody in my situation said that they were, they'd be lying."[/b][/quote]

                              Some athletes are highly competitive, and actually play the game for more than just a paycheck. This is NOT a bad thing. Marquis is an exceptional talent and has a lot to bring to the table.

                              Based on what I've seen so far in the post season, I would feel more comfortable this Jason Marquis coming out of the bullpen than most of the available other relievers.

                              And finally, it's a Post-Dispatch article, for crying out loud. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif[/img]
                              Norman Chad, syndicated columnist: “Sports radio, reflecting our sinking culture, spends entire days advising managers and coaches, berating managers and coaches, firing managers and coaches and searching the countryside for better middle relievers. If they just redirected their energy toward, say, crosswalk-signal maintenance, America would be 2 percent more livable.”

                              "The best argument against democracy," someone (Churchill?) said, "is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

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