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    Lohr replaces striking drivers
    By Greg Cancelada
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    10/11/2005

    A bitter strike at St. Louis City beer wholesaler Lohr Distributing Co. turned uglier after Lohr told strikers that they’ve lost their jobs to permanent replacement workers. The move now complicates any labor settlement with the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, which represents the striking drivers.

    Though Lohr says it still wants to continue negotiations, the Teamsters union believes the company is using the strike to get rid of older employers and break the union.

    The wholesaler president Ron Lohr “has finally shown his true colors,” Teamsters Local 600 President Dan McKay said today.

    Lohr didn’t return phone calls. The wholesaler hasn’t responded to repeated phone calls seeking comment during the 4 1/2 month-long strike.

    Two dozen drivers and a dozen part-time workers represented by International Brotherhood of Teamsters Local 600 struck the privately held wholesaler on May 22 after six months of negotiations failed to resolve differences over health care costs and pay.

    Since Lohr is the exclusive distributor of Anheuser-Busch Cos. products within the city of St. Louis, Teamsters are asking city bars, restaurants and retailers to boycott A-B products distributed within the city limits. However, the Teamsters strike doesn’t affect A-B wholesalers operating in St. Louis County or another other counties surrounding the city.

    Lohr had hired temporary replacement workers to deliver beer since May, but then told the union via fax late Friday that it had made these replacements permanent.

    This means the Teamster now have the added task of negotiating with Lohr to get their members’ jobs back.

    If Lohr doesn’t agree to give back their jobs and the strike ends, the company is only legally required to hire Teamsters to fill open positions or vacancies created from departing workers.

    A key reason for the strike was Lohr’s insistence on a new commission structure that would pay drivers less. Teamster drivers now get a 35-cent commission on every case delivered to retail locations, with the exception of Busch Stadium, and the union is asking to raise this to 36 cents a case.

    The union says Lohr wants to increase the rate to 38 cents in exchange for introducing a new rate of 19 cents a case for certain retail accounts. Because Lohr won’t identify the accounts that will get the lower rate, the Teamsters are worried the distributor will broadly impose the lower rate, which could cut their income by more than a third. [/b][/quote]

    "Can't buy what I want because it's free...
    Can't buy what I want because it's free..."
    -- Pearl Jam, from the single Corduroy

  • #2
    Isn't it illegal to fire someone on strike?

    Moon

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    • #3
      QUOTE(Moon Man @ Oct 11 2005, 10:44 AM) Quoted post

      Isn't it illegal to fire someone on strike?

      Moon
      [/b][/quote]


      Hope not, It's shouldn't be.

      Fuckers left their post. No call no Show, unauthorized absence, dereliction of duties, negligence, etc...
      Un-Official Sponsor of Randy Choate and Kevin Siegrist

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      • #4
        Right, Lazy, because this is how a company should treat its employees.

        There's no doubt that unions pushed too far when they had an advantage, but it's equally not right some of the other things that are going on when the good cards are held by the owners.
        The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life. -TR

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        • #5
          QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 11 2005, 01:00 PM) Quoted post

          QUOTE(Moon Man @ Oct 11 2005, 10:44 AM) Quoted post

          Isn't it illegal to fire someone on strike?

          Moon
          [/b][/quote]


          Hope not, It's shouldn't be.

          Fuckers left their post. No call no Show, unauthorized absence, dereliction of duties, negligence, etc...
          [/b][/quote]

          Amen.

          When 30 bucks an hour and all the free beer you can steal isn't enough, you should probably go ahead and find a different job.

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          • #6
            QUOTE(lasvegasreb @ Oct 11 2005, 11:11 AM) Quoted post

            Right, Lazy, because this is how a company should treat its employees.
            [/b][/quote]


            Yes, absolutely. The company has a responsibility to retailers consumers to deliver product.

            The dumbass drivers could have showed up and worked. They choose not to. They scrambled to fulfill their obligations to retailer and consumers and decided that the current crop of employees was better suited to the work environment.

            Noone but the stupid ass Union Boss made them walk off the job. Not Lohr, not the replacement drivers. Seems the fault is being miscast...


            Sorry, shit out of luck. They got treated how they treated their employer.


            Karma is a biyatch.
            Un-Official Sponsor of Randy Choate and Kevin Siegrist

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            • #7
              QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 11 2005, 01:14 PM) Quoted post

              QUOTE(lasvegasreb @ Oct 11 2005, 11:11 AM) Quoted post

              Right, Lazy, because this is how a company should treat its employees.
              [/b][/quote]


              Yes, absolutely. The company has a responsibility to retailers consumers to deliver product.

              The dumbass drivers could have showed up and worked. They choose not to. They scrambled to fulfill their obligations to retailer and consumers and decided that the current crop of employees was better suited to the work environment.

              Noone but the stupid ass Union Boss made them walk off the job. Not Lohr, not the replacement drivers. Seems the fault is being miscast...


              Sorry, shit out of luck. They got treated how they treated their employer.


              Karma is a biyatch.


              [/b][/quote]

              So much for fair labor practices.

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              • #8
                QUOTE(Celtic @ Oct 11 2005, 11:23 AM) Quoted post

                QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 11 2005, 01:14 PM) Quoted post

                QUOTE(lasvegasreb @ Oct 11 2005, 11:11 AM) Quoted post

                Right, Lazy, because this is how a company should treat its employees.
                [/b][/quote]


                Yes, absolutely. The company has a responsibility to retailers consumers to deliver product.

                The dumbass drivers could have showed up and worked. They choose not to. They scrambled to fulfill their obligations to retailer and consumers and decided that the current crop of employees was better suited to the work environment.

                Noone but the stupid ass Union Boss made them walk off the job. Not Lohr, not the replacement drivers. Seems the fault is being miscast...


                Sorry, shit out of luck. They got treated how they treated their employer.


                Karma is a biyatch.


                [/b][/quote]

                So much for fair labor practices.
                [/b][/quote]


                Negotiate all you want, I contantly did.

                Walk off the job, FIRED
                Un-Official Sponsor of Randy Choate and Kevin Siegrist

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                • #9
                  QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 11 2005, 01:24 PM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(Celtic @ Oct 11 2005, 11:23 AM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 11 2005, 01:14 PM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(lasvegasreb @ Oct 11 2005, 11:11 AM) Quoted post

                  Right, Lazy, because this is how a company should treat its employees.
                  [/b][/quote]


                  Yes, absolutely. The company has a responsibility to retailers consumers to deliver product.

                  The dumbass drivers could have showed up and worked. They choose not to. They scrambled to fulfill their obligations to retailer and consumers and decided that the current crop of employees was better suited to the work environment.

                  Noone but the stupid ass Union Boss made them walk off the job. Not Lohr, not the replacement drivers. Seems the fault is being miscast...


                  Sorry, shit out of luck. They got treated how they treated their employer.


                  Karma is a biyatch.


                  [/b][/quote]

                  So much for fair labor practices.
                  [/b][/quote]


                  Negotiate all you want, I contantly did.

                  Walk off the job, FIRED
                  [/b][/quote]


                  It's not walking off the job, it's their right to strike. It's also Lohr's right to hire replacements. All part of the game. Looks like the drivers will lose though. What special skill do they have?

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                  • #10
                    Sure they have a right to strike. If they wanna keep their job, I suggest they do it after hours.

                    They have a right to park their truck on the side of the highway and get drunk and bang a hooker making their shipment late also, not sure they'll keep their job.

                    They have a right to piss on the managers desk too, not sure they'll keep there job then either.
                    Un-Official Sponsor of Randy Choate and Kevin Siegrist

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                    • #11
                      QUOTE(BARGERMAN @ Oct 11 2005, 01:11 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 11 2005, 01:00 PM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(Moon Man @ Oct 11 2005, 10:44 AM) Quoted post

                      Isn't it illegal to fire someone on strike?

                      Moon
                      [/b][/quote]


                      Hope not, It's shouldn't be.

                      Fuckers left their post. No call no Show, unauthorized absence, dereliction of duties, negligence, etc...
                      [/b][/quote]

                      Amen.

                      When 30 bucks an hour and all the free beer you can steal isn't enough, you should probably go ahead and find a different job.
                      [/b][/quote]

                      Someday, union workers may figure out that the day of unions being a good thing is gone.
                      I'm here until I'm gone, then I'm somewhere else!

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                      • #12
                        QUOTE(StlJoe @ Oct 11 2005, 01:45 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(BARGERMAN @ Oct 11 2005, 01:11 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 11 2005, 01:00 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(Moon Man @ Oct 11 2005, 10:44 AM) Quoted post

                        Isn't it illegal to fire someone on strike?

                        Moon
                        [/b][/quote]


                        Hope not, It's shouldn't be.

                        Fuckers left their post. No call no Show, unauthorized absence, dereliction of duties, negligence, etc...
                        [/b][/quote]

                        Amen.

                        When 30 bucks an hour and all the free beer you can steal isn't enough, you should probably go ahead and find a different job.
                        [/b][/quote]

                        Someday, union workers may figure out that the day of unions being a good thing is gone.
                        [/b][/quote]


                        I'll mark that statement down as you being woefully misinformed. I learned that from reading every post of yours.

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                        • #13
                          QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 11 2005, 01:43 PM) Quoted post

                          Sure they have a right to strike. If they wanna keep their job, I suggest they do it after hours.

                          They have a right to park their truck on the side of the highway and get drunk and bang a hooker making their shipment late also, not sure they'll keep their job.

                          They have a right to piss on the managers desk too, not sure they'll keep there job then either.
                          [/b][/quote]


                          I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you're not a big fan of collective bargining agreements.

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                          • #14
                            QUOTE(Celtic @ Oct 11 2005, 01:51 PM) Quoted post

                            QUOTE(StlJoe @ Oct 11 2005, 01:45 PM) Quoted post

                            QUOTE(BARGERMAN @ Oct 11 2005, 01:11 PM) Quoted post

                            QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 11 2005, 01:00 PM) Quoted post

                            QUOTE(Moon Man @ Oct 11 2005, 10:44 AM) Quoted post

                            Isn't it illegal to fire someone on strike?

                            Moon
                            [/b][/quote]


                            Hope not, It's shouldn't be.

                            Fuckers left their post. No call no Show, unauthorized absence, dereliction of duties, negligence, etc...
                            [/b][/quote]

                            Amen.

                            When 30 bucks an hour and all the free beer you can steal isn't enough, you should probably go ahead and find a different job.
                            [/b][/quote]

                            Someday, union workers may figure out that the day of unions being a good thing is gone.
                            [/b][/quote]


                            I'll mark that statement down as you being woefully misinformed. I learned that from reading every post of yours.
                            [/b][/quote]

                            Right back at ya funnyboy! If you spend your time reading all posts of other people who irritate you, well, that answers a lot of questions.
                            I'm here until I'm gone, then I'm somewhere else!

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                            • #15
                              QUOTE(Celtic @ Oct 11 2005, 01:51 PM) Quoted post

                              QUOTE(StlJoe @ Oct 11 2005, 01:45 PM) Quoted post

                              QUOTE(BARGERMAN @ Oct 11 2005, 01:11 PM) Quoted post

                              QUOTE(lazydaze @ Oct 11 2005, 01:00 PM) Quoted post

                              QUOTE(Moon Man @ Oct 11 2005, 10:44 AM) Quoted post

                              Isn't it illegal to fire someone on strike?

                              Moon
                              [/b][/quote]


                              Hope not, It's shouldn't be.

                              Fuckers left their post. No call no Show, unauthorized absence, dereliction of duties, negligence, etc...
                              [/b][/quote]

                              Amen.

                              When 30 bucks an hour and all the free beer you can steal isn't enough, you should probably go ahead and find a different job.
                              [/b][/quote]

                              Someday, union workers may figure out that the day of unions being a good thing is gone.
                              [/b][/quote]


                              I'll mark that statement down as you being woefully misinformed. I learned that from reading every post of yours.
                              [/b][/quote]

                              ++

                              Any time there's owners trying to rip off their employees, unions will be a good thing. You're confusing the behavior of some unions to prove a point that the whole endeavor is pointless.

                              Once again, Joe proves his cluelessness in virtually everything and that Jim White indeed knows all.
                              The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life. -TR

                              OFFICIAL LOUNGE SPONSOR OF NEW YORK CITY, TEDDY ROOSEVELT AND THE MARYLAND TERRAPINS

                              Madyaks2 Thought Of The Day: I'm just as dumb as madyaks1.

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