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  • Wal-Mart Turns in Student’s Anti-Bush Photo, Secret Service Investigates Him

    Wal-Mart Turns in Student’s Anti-Bush Photo, Secret Service Investigates Him
    Matthew Rothschild
    October 4, 2005

    Selina Jarvis is the chair of the social studies department at Currituck County High School in North Carolina, and she is not used to having the Secret Service question her or one of her students.

    But that’s what happened on September 20.

    Jarvis had assigned her senior civics and economics class “to take photographs to illustrate their rights in the Bill of Rights,” she says. One student “had taken a photo of George Bush out of a magazine and tacked the picture to a wall with a red thumb tack through his head. Then he made a thumb’s down sign with his own hand next to the President’s picture, and he had a photo taken of that, and he pasted it on a poster.”

    According to Jarvis, the student, who remains anonymous, was just doing his assignment, illustrating the right to dissent.

    But over at the Kitty Hawk Wal-Mart, where the student took his film to be developed, this right is evidently suspect.

    An employee in that Wal-Mart photo department called the Kitty Hawk police on the student. And the Kitty Hawk police turned the matter over to the Secret Service.

    On Tuesday, September 20, the Secret Service came to Currituck High.“At 1:35, the student came to me and told me that the Secret Service had taken his poster,” Jarvis says. “I didn’t believe him at first. But they had come into my room when I wasn’t there and had taken his poster, which was in a stack with all the others.”

    She says the student was upset.

    “He was nervous, he was scared, and his parents were out of town on business,” says Jarvis.

    She, too, had to talk to the Secret Service.

    “Halfway through my afternoon class, the assistant principal got me out of class and took me to the office conference room,” she says. “Two men from the Secret Service were there. They asked me what I knew about the student. I told them he was a great kid, that he was in the homecoming court, and that he’d never been in any trouble.”

    Then they got down to his poster.

    “They asked me, didn’t I think that it was suspicious,” she recalls. “I said no, it was a Bill of Rights project!”

    At the end of the meeting, they told her the incident “would be interpreted by the U.S. attorney, who would decide whether the student could be indicted,” she says.

    The student was not indicted, and the Secret Service did not pursue the case further.

    “I blame Wal-Mart more than anybody,” she says. “I was really disgusted with them. But everyone was using poor judgment, from Wal-Mart up to the Secret Service.”

    A person in the photo department at the Wal-Mart in Kitty Hawk said, “You have to call either the home office or the authorities to get any information about that.”

    Jacquie Young, a spokesperson for Wal-Mart at company headquarters, did not provide comment within a 24-hour period.

    Sharon Davenport of the Kitty Hawk Police Department said, “We just handed it over” to the Secret Service. “No investigative report was filed.”

    Jonathan Scherry, spokesman for the Secret Service in Washington, D.C., said, “We ertainly respect artistic freedom, but we also have the responsibility to look into incidents when necessary. In this case, it was brought to our attention from a private citizen, a photo lab employee.”

    Jarvis uses one word to describe the whole incident: “ridiculous.”
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  • #2
    about the only people here i have no prob with is the police. THey did what they are told to do when this comes down. The Wal-Mart person is a dick

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    • #3
      was the red dot meant to portray anything other then a laser on the guys forehead?

      i think this story is getting way to much press and was handled in a bad manner by all involved, but the teacher is being an ignorant douche bag if she can't see anything wrong with some kid taking a picture of someone and putting a laser scope on his forehead, whether its the president or not, this raises questions in the general public.
      You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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      • #4
        never develop pics at wal-mart. get a digital camera and stay the fuck away from them. bunch of overzealous idiots.

        if u want film - do it in your own darkroom.

        han solo

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        • #5
          QUOTE
          i think this story is getting way to much press and was handled in a bad manner by all involved, but the teacher is being an ignorant douche bag if she can't see anything wrong with some kid taking a picture of someone and putting a laser scope on his forehead, whether its the president or not, this raises questions in the general public.[/b][/quote]

          I must be an ignorant douche bag too. First, I didn't interpret the thumb tack as a laser scope. Second, I'm not sure what is acceptable dissent and what is not. Can you explain what is "wrong" with it, please?

          Moon

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          • #6
            You may not interpret it that way and thats fine, I'm not going to try and convince you. I'm just saying my first reaction when hearing about someone drawing or placing a red dot on someones head is a laser scope on a rifle.

            After all it is the Secret Services job to investigate matters like this, I guess whatever explanation the teacher and student gave was suitable for this to no longer be an issue, but better judgement could've been used by all, from student, to teacher, to over zealous wal-mart employee. All the other public officials involved were just doing their job.

            I have no clue what is considered acceptable and what is not, but at first I took the idea to mean a laser was on his head, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who took it that way...I'd imagine something like that will be looked into everytime by the government. If the story would've had some explanation on exactly what message the kid was trying to display it might turn out that it was just a huge misunderstanding, but I'm not really seeing anything else that it could symbolize at this point...are you?
            You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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            • #7
              QUOTE(Moon Man @ Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM) Quoted post
              QUOTE
              i think this story is getting way to much press and was handled in a bad manner by all involved, but the teacher is being an ignorant douche bag if she can't see anything wrong with some kid taking a picture of someone and putting a laser scope on his forehead, whether its the president or not, this raises questions in the general public.[/b][/quote]

              I must be an ignorant douche bag too. First, I didn't interpret the thumb tack as a laser scope. Second, I'm not sure what is acceptable dissent and what is not. Can you explain what is "wrong" with it, please?

              Moon [/b][/quote]
              Yeah, I didn't see the connection either until it was explained.

              Walmart's being doing this kind of thing across the board. If you happen to take a pic of your kid naked, they call the authorities. If you take in digital files to be printed that look too high of quality, the refuse to do it based on copyright issues.

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              • #8
                QUOTE(pgrote @ Oct 5 2005, 07:54 AM) Quoted post

                QUOTE(Moon Man @ Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM) Quoted post
                QUOTE
                i think this story is getting way to much press and was handled in a bad manner by all involved, but the teacher is being an ignorant douche bag if she can't see anything wrong with some kid taking a picture of someone and putting a laser scope on his forehead, whether its the president or not, this raises questions in the general public.[/b][/quote]

                I must be an ignorant douche bag too. First, I didn't interpret the thumb tack as a laser scope. Second, I'm not sure what is acceptable dissent and what is not. Can you explain what is "wrong" with it, please?

                Moon [/b][/quote]
                Yeah, I didn't see the connection either until it was explained.

                Walmart's being doing this kind of thing across the board. If you happen to take a pic of your kid naked, they call the authorities. If you take in digital files to be printed that look too high of quality, the refuse to do it based on copyright issues.
                [/b][/quote]

                I don't disagree that the folks in the Wal-Mart photo deparment mistake their job for being FBI agents...those fuckers are weird.
                You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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                • #9
                  They error on the side of caution. How would you like to be developing pictures and run across that and have to decide what to do? How are you to know it is for a civics project at a school? You do the easy thing.. contact your supervisor and let them decide. And who cares if it is Wal-mart or Wal-greens or K-mart.. they would have all done the same thing.

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                  • #10
                    QUOTE(dooz @ Oct 5 2005, 08:03 AM) Quoted post

                    They error on the side of caution. How would you like to be developing pictures and run across that and have to decide what to do? How are you to know it is for a civics project at a school? You do the easy thing.. contact your supervisor and let them decide. And who cares if it is Wal-mart or Wal-greens or K-mart.. they would have all done the same thing.
                    [/b][/quote]

                    ++
                    You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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                    • #11
                      QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Oct 5 2005, 09:04 AM) Quoted post

                      QUOTE(dooz @ Oct 5 2005, 08:03 AM) Quoted post

                      They error on the side of caution. How would you like to be developing pictures and run across that and have to decide what to do? How are you to know it is for a civics project at a school? You do the easy thing.. contact your supervisor and let them decide. And who cares if it is Wal-mart or Wal-greens or K-mart.. they would have all done the same thing.
                      [/b][/quote]

                      ++
                      [/b][/quote]

                      moral of the story.. don't be an idiot and take a picture like that to wal-mart to be developed. develop it yourself or take a digital picture. don't blame somebody else (wal-mart, the police, or the secret service) for you being an idiot and having no common sense.

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                      • #12
                        QUOTE(dooz @ Oct 5 2005, 09:03 AM) Quoted post

                        They error on the side of caution. How would you like to be developing pictures and run across that and have to decide what to do? How are you to know it is for a civics project at a school? You do the easy thing.. contact your supervisor and let them decide. And who cares if it is Wal-mart or Wal-greens or K-mart.. they would have all done the same thing.
                        [/b][/quote]

                        So you're saying that if Wal-Mart knew that this was a Civics project they would have believed the student and not notified the police?

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                        • #13
                          QUOTE(Iowa_Card @ Oct 5 2005, 09:23 AM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(dooz @ Oct 5 2005, 09:03 AM) Quoted post

                          They error on the side of caution. How would you like to be developing pictures and run across that and have to decide what to do? How are you to know it is for a civics project at a school? You do the easy thing.. contact your supervisor and let them decide. And who cares if it is Wal-mart or Wal-greens or K-mart.. they would have all done the same thing.
                          [/b][/quote]

                          So you're saying that if Wal-Mart knew that this was a Civics project they would have believed the student and not notified the police?
                          [/b][/quote]

                          maybe, but what does it matter. I am sure they have procedures that say something like.. if you see any high profile government officials with tacs in their head, or pictures of naked children, then elevate it to your superior. what is the big deal?

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                          • #14
                            QUOTE(dooz @ Oct 5 2005, 08:03 AM) Quoted post

                            They error on the side of caution. How would you like to be developing pictures and run across that and have to decide what to do? How are you to know it is for a civics project at a school? You do the easy thing.. contact your supervisor and let them decide. And who cares if it is Wal-mart or Wal-greens or K-mart.. they would have all done the same thing.
                            [/b][/quote]

                            "Caution" is not the right word here.

                            I'm guessing the little mal wart slave fawns over the big political hero.
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                            • #15
                              QUOTE(dooz @ Oct 5 2005, 08:25 AM) Quoted post

                              QUOTE(Iowa_Card @ Oct 5 2005, 09:23 AM) Quoted post

                              QUOTE(dooz @ Oct 5 2005, 09:03 AM) Quoted post

                              They error on the side of caution. How would you like to be developing pictures and run across that and have to decide what to do? How are you to know it is for a civics project at a school? You do the easy thing.. contact your supervisor and let them decide. And who cares if it is Wal-mart or Wal-greens or K-mart.. they would have all done the same thing.
                              [/b][/quote]

                              So you're saying that if Wal-Mart knew that this was a Civics project they would have believed the student and not notified the police?
                              [/b][/quote]

                              maybe, but what does it matter. I am sure they have procedures that say something like.. if you see any high profile government officials with tacs in their head, or pictures of naked children, then elevate it to your superior. what is the big deal?
                              [/b][/quote]

                              I doubt it's a policy.
                              Damn these electric sex pants!

                              26+31+34+42+44+46+64+67+82+06 = 10

                              Bring back the death penalty for corporations!

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