Science v. Faith

[King]

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Nietzche, one of the greatest critics of Christianity, argued:

Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as science without any presuppositions...a philosophy, a faith must always be there first, so that science can acquire from it a direction, a meaning, a limit, a method, a right to exist.....It is still a metaphysical faith that underlies our faith in science."

- taken from Genealogy of Morals III[/b][/quote]

How perceptive.

Smart guy, Nietzche.

[Guppy]

Friday morning? But it is only Thursday.

[Fred Garvin]

QUOTE(King @ Sep 29 2005, 07:56 AM) Quoted post

Smart guy, Nietzche.
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He could be a mean sumbitch, too.

[King]

QUOTE(Guppy @ Sep 29 2005, 06:57 AM) Quoted post

Friday morning? But it is only Thursday.
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Sorry.

It's my last day of work for the week.

[ksbluesfan]

Nietzsche was wrong. Math is a science, and it requires no faith.

[madyaks]

I shall abstain for this fine day.

[blue zone]

There is no Nietzche......



But,yes he is wrong.

[joe_w]

QUOTE(ksbluesfan @ Sep 29 2005, 11:52 AM) Quoted post

Nietzsche was wrong. Math is a science, and it requires no faith.
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Math isn't really a science, though, is it? It's more of a tool that scientists use to understand the universe.

sci·ence n.

1 - The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
2 - Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena.
3 - Such activities applied to an object of inquiry or study.

[ksbluesfan]

According to Merriam-Webster, math is a science.

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mathematics: the science of numbers and their operations, interrelations, combinations, generalizations, and abstractions and of space configurations and their structure, measurement, transformations, and generalizations[/b][/quote]

[kah]

I always suspected Nietzsche was full of shit.

[hkyfan]

QUOTE(King @ Sep 29 2005, 06:56 AM) Quoted post

QUOTE

Nietzche, one of the greatest critics of Christianity, argued:

Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as science without any presuppositions...a philosophy, a faith must always be there first, so that science can acquire from it a direction, a meaning, a limit, a method, a right to exist.....It is still a metaphysical faith that underlies our faith in science."

- taken from Genealogy of Morals III[/b][/quote]

How perceptive.

Smart guy, Nietzche.
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The philosopher of Nazi theory was also quite mad.

Sponsor of Alex Pieterangelo.

..."I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." George Best

[g45]

Great, inject a little German idealism into this debate.

Throw in some Kant, Hegel and even a little Marx: their work did such wonders for the 20th Century.

Talk about strange bedfellows.