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    Yet other Tillman family members are less reluctant to show Tillman’s unique character, which was more complex than the public image of a gung-ho patriotic warrior. He started keeping a journal at 16 and continued the practice on the battlefield, writing in it regularly. (His journal was lost immediately after his death.) Mary Tillman said a friend of Pat’s even arranged a private meeting with Chomsky, the antiwar author, to take place after his return from Afghanistan — a meeting prevented by his death. She said that although he supported the Afghan war, believing it justified by the Sept. 11 attacks, “Pat was very critical of the whole Iraq war.”

    Baer, who served with Tillman for more than a year in Iraq and Afghanistan, told one anecdote that took place during the March 2003 invasion as the Rangers moved up through southern Iraq.

    “I can see it like a movie screen,” Baer said. “We were outside of (a city in southern Iraq) watching as bombs were dropping on the town. We were at an old air base, me, Kevin and Pat, we weren’t in the fight right then. We were talking. And Pat said, ‘You know, this war is so f— illegal.’ And we all said, ‘Yeah.’ That’s who he was. He totally was against Bush.”

    Another soldier in the platoon, who asked not to be identified, said Pat urged him to vote for Bush’s Democratic opponent in the 2004 election, Sen. John Kerry.

    Senior Chief Petty Officer Stephen White — a Navy SEAL who served with Pat and Kevin for four months in Iraq and was the only military member to speak at Tillman’s memorial — said Pat “wasn’t very fired up about being in Iraq” and instead wanted to go fight al Qaeda in Afghanistan. He said both Pat and Kevin (who has a degree in philosophy) “were amazingly well-read individuals … very firm in some of their beliefs, their political and religious or not so religious beliefs.”

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  • #2
    Nice thread title...

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    • #3
      Why is Dvy an ass?
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      • #4
        Didn't fit quite so well into the pre-approved story, did he?
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          So it's possible to support the troops and still not believe in the purpose for a war?

          That's news to Fox News.
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          • #6
            good lord

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            • #7
              If we had put as much money into capturing Osama Bin Laden and destorying Al Queda as we have put into over throwing Saddam and installing democracy in Iraq we would captured have the guy by now and his organization would be in shambles.

              Priorities. Everything is about priorities and we deviated from what our's should have been.

              Maybe in 100 years historians will know what the hell really happened and how we got bogged down in a war in Iraq without a weapon of mass destruction in sight.
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              • #8
                BUT HE TRIED TO KILL MY DADDY!!!!

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                • #9
                  QUOTE(lasvegasreb @ Sep 26 2005, 11:40 AM) Quoted post

                  Why is Dvy an ass?
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                  • #10
                    Have we learned nothing from this weekend's bitch session over thread titles? sigh

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                    • #11
                      QUOTE(*007* @ Sep 26 2005, 11:51 AM) Quoted post

                      Have we learned nothing from this weekend's bitch session over thread titles? sigh
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                      There was a bitch session?

                      Damn, I hate it when I miss those.
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                      • #12
                        QUOTE(TTB @ Sep 26 2005, 12:48 PM) Quoted post

                        If we had put as much money into capturing Osama Bin Laden and destorying Al Queda as we have put into over throwing Saddam and installing democracy in Iraq we would captured have the guy by now and his organization would be in shambles.

                        Priorities. Everything is about priorities and we deviated from what our's should have been.

                        Maybe in 100 years historians will know what the hell really happened and how we got bogged down in a war in Iraq without a weapon of mass destruction in sight.
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                        • #13
                          QUOTE(BringBackZezel @ Sep 26 2005, 11:47 AM) Quoted post

                          So it's possible to support the troops and still not believe in the purpose for a war?

                          That's news to Fox News.
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                          What was the reaction in 2004 when people here were saying the exact same thing as Tillman - that the war in Afghanistan and the hunt for OBL was laudable, but that war in Iraq was idiotic and/or illegal?

                          So I guess I no longer hate America. That's good, we've come a long way.
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                          • #14
                            QUOTE(*007* @ Sep 26 2005, 11:51 AM) Quoted post

                            Have we learned nothing from this weekend's bitch session over thread titles? sigh
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                            I see your point, I changed the subtitle, does that help?
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                            • #15
                              perfect thread title...if you disagree with bush you hate america..we all know this
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