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    Women are beautiful creations.

    What do these fags have agaist them?

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    AFP
    Iraqi women say freedoms are slipping away

    Sat Sep 24, 5:08 PM ET

    BAGHDAD (AFP) - Women's rights activists in
    Iraq say rising extremism is restricting their freedom, even as the country prepares to vote on a constitution that is touted as one of the Arab world's most progressive regarding women.
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    "Women cannot walk freely out in the street," said activist Ban Jamil, who directs the Rasafa Branch of Assyrian Women Union, a local non-governmental organisation in Baghdad.

    "Women face lack of respect when they walk uncovered," said Jamil, a Christian, who said women are insulted if they show too much skin or walk in public without wearing the Islamic veil, or hijab, to cover their hair.

    She blamed "imported extremist doctrines, which were never experienced in the past" for the new restrictions.

    The tide of Islamisation has risen in Iraq as fundamentalist Shiite parties have come to power following the ouster of former dictator
    Saddam Hussein.

    Although not enforced by the newly established laws, which were written under US patronage, a conservative dress code is widely observed in much of the war-torn country.

    But conservative dressing in Iraq is not as universally strict as in neighbouring Shiite
    Iran, or ultra-conservative Sunni Saudi Arabia, where women have to cover from head-to-toe when in public.

    Dressing modestly in trousers and a long-sleeved shirt -- more likely with a colourful headscarf -- is common among Iraqi women.

    Older or very conservative women often wear the traditional black abaya, a kind of loose-fitting, modest dress.

    But short sleeves and skirts which were accepted in the past are hardly seen, even in the scorching heat of Baghdad's summer.

    "We cover and change the way we dress unwillingly due to pressure," said Jinan Mubarak, a Muslim who heads the Iraqi Centre for Training and Employing Women in Baghdad.

    She said some neighbourhoods are off-limits for women if unveiled, saying that women like herself are forced to change their behaviour in such environments.

    Iraqi state television -- a shopwindow of the new regime -- allows some female presenters to appear unveiled, despite a clear Shiite influence in its programmes.

    However, religious zealots who were curbed under Saddam's secular grip can operate freely now, as evidenced by one notice billboarded in a Baghdad street near a church, Jamil said.

    "To all unveiled Muslim sisters and Christian sisters: You should wear a veil because Virgin Mary used to be veiled," it said.

    Women are also concerned that the American influence in running post-Saddam Iraq plays a major role in protecting women rights, and that a future departure of US troops might result in further radicalisation.

    "This might regrettably be the case, as much as we would like to see the Americans out of Iraq," said Mubarak.

    US Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad has called Iraq's draft constitution the most progressive document in the Muslim world, claiming it ensured women's rights.

    "Women have the right to participate fully in public activities," he said in August, pointing out that 25 percent of parliament seats were reserved for women.

    But activists say that the current female MPs do not represent women's advocates and were brought in by male-dominated political parties to fill the 25 percent quota.

    "These were voted in to fill the quota... None of them serves in the politburo of any of their parties... They are mere mouthpieces," Jamil said.

    "We fear the same might happen in the next elections," she added, claiming that independent women have very slim chance of making it into the national assembly.

    Several vocal women MPs speak out during live-broadcast parliament sessions and criticise openly the performance of governmental departments, although they are all first-timers.

    Eighty-seven women were elected to parliament in the January 30 elections. One has since been killed by insurgents.
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    No, you don't hate gays at all...

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    • #3
      QUOTE(GloveSaveandaBeauty @ Sep 25 2005, 12:10 PM) Quoted post

      No, you don't hate gays at all...
      [/b][/quote]


      Indeed. The Kev: Bigot. Homophobe. Too bad, b/c if he hadn't made his moron jackass comment he could have started an interesting thread.
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      • #4
        QUOTE(kah @ Sep 25 2005, 02:11 PM) Quoted post

        QUOTE(GloveSaveandaBeauty @ Sep 25 2005, 12:10 PM) Quoted post

        No, you don't hate gays at all...
        [/b][/quote]


        Indeed. The Kev: Bigot. Homophobe. Too bad, b/c if he hadn't made his moron jackass comment he could have started an interesting thread.
        [/b][/quote]
        Indeed. It would have been interesting to watch you defend the dignity of women, kah. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]

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        • #5
          Muslims don't hate women but they are not men. Their 'rights' do no matter. They exist to please their husbands.
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          • #6
            QUOTE(TTB @ Sep 25 2005, 03:56 PM) Quoted post

            Muslims don't hate women but they are not men. Their 'rights' do no matter. They exist to please their husbands.
            [/b][/quote]
            TTB:

            The West hasn't figured this out yet, but all non-Muslims (men or women) exist to please and serve the men of Islam.

            The sooner the West figures this out and does something about it, the better.

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            • #7
              Well, to get away from Kev being a cretinous bigot and actually address the substance of the article--the article is right on target. That's one thing that I always laugh about when Dubya gibbers about bringing "freedom" to Iraq. Freedom for whom? Some people in Iraq will surely be more free, like Kurds and Shiite men, but some will be less free. Like all the women in Iraq, who enjoyed something very close to equal rights in what was one of the most secular states in the Muslim world, but now stand to become second-class citizens.
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                QUOTE(kah @ Sep 25 2005, 03:59 PM) Quoted post

                Like all the women in Iraq, who enjoyed something very close to equal rights in what was one of the most secular states in the Muslim world, but now stand to become second-class citizens.
                [/b][/quote]

                This is a very good point.

                This war may turn out to make Vietnam look like a good idea.
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                • #9
                  QUOTE(King @ Sep 25 2005, 03:58 PM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(TTB @ Sep 25 2005, 03:56 PM) Quoted post

                  Muslims don't hate women but they are not men. Their 'rights' do no matter. They exist to please their husbands.
                  [/b][/quote]
                  TTB:

                  The West hasn't figured this out yet, but all non-Muslims (men or women) exist to please and serve the men of Islam.

                  The sooner the West figures this out and does something about it, the better.
                  [/b][/quote]

                  I just want to get the hell out of the ME and put all that $ and energy into alternative energy development. Let us lead the world in developing the next great energy sources. That could boost our economy for years.

                  Energy is the only reason we even need to give a crap about the Middle East.
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                  • #10
                    Hell,maybe they have a point...This country went to Hell when we let women out of the kitchen.

                    albeit,those camel jockeys are still fuckheads

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                    • #11
                      Those ragheads are famous for boyfucking. Always have been.

                      Remember the ancient Persian proverb: "A wife for duty, a melon for pleasure, a boy for ecstasy."

                      I honestly wouldn't mind some ethnic cleansing. They've had centuries to get with the fucking program.
                      But wait. There is something that can be done afterall. My good friend Angelo is a cop in the Tampa/Clearwater area. Since I kept all of the files from the access logs when I had the power to see them, guess what, I have everyone's IP addresses. Hmm..what can I do w/ those??
                      ...

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                      • #12
                        Kev, you oughta start a straight supremacist group.

                        You could wear pink pointed hoods and call it the GayGayGay.
                        Damn these electric sex pants!

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                        • #13
                          Women are to be treasured, not placed in some sort of secondary role, ala "radical" Muslims.

                          I think these fellas are a bit too much into men, if you dig what I'm saying.
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                            QUOTE(Fred Garvin @ Sep 25 2005, 04:05 PM) Quoted post

                            Those ragheads are famous for boyfucking. Always have been.
                            [/b][/quote]

                            Yeah, unlike those Greeks and Romans.

                            Moon

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                            • #15
                              It is important to keep in mind that most cultures in the Middle East are much older that Christianity and since they have not existed in an open and free society, as in the Western World, they have not had as many "modern" influences on them. In Iraqi society, it may be the natural course of things, when religious inlfuence has been squelched for so long, for the more zealous Muslims to take a strong hand now that they are free to do so. However, also along the natural course of things, Western influence will start to "modernize" Iraqi society and it will start to swing back in the direction of more freedoms for women. The fact that there were so many women elected to take part in their government almost ensures that women's rights will become more prevalent as time goes along.

                              Keep in mind what an upheaval this society has been in and it may take some time for things to level out and status quo to be achieved. Rome wasn't built in a day, nor will a new Iraqi society come to fruition overnight.
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