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    What I have found the biggest problem in American business to be is really pretty simple: execs keeping their word.

    Met with a guy who runs a downtown casino last Friday. He agreed to pay for that reception I mentioned earlier. Great guy. I asked him, might we have the check next week? He said, "There's no might about it. You will have the check next week."

    So it's really no surprise that the check didn't arrive today.

    And this isn't an isolated incident; it happens all the time.

    Wang, does this happen in China? It happens a lot out here. And it's not as if it's white lies, either. If the check wasn't going to be sent out this week, DON'T TELL ME IT WILL BE.

    Fucking simple as that.
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    Execs are useless.

    Find a smart person who helps to prop up that Exec, the checkbook won't be far away. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]
    Damn these electric sex pants!

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    • #3
      That's just the way society is today. Total lack of integrity. Just look at dubya or Matt Blunt. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif[/img]
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      • #4
        Heugy,

        Just looking at the Prep News today, H. Eric turns 40?!!

        So when I started he was 28??! Unreal.

        Did your son have any run-ins with him? We used to get into it about dress code.

        Famous letter to the Prep News, written by me, before your son was there, unfortunately. I would get letters from SLUH mothers telling me I was right, it was weird.
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        • #5
          QUOTE(lasvegasreb @ Sep 23 2005, 06:04 PM) Quoted post

          What I have found the biggest problem in American business to be is really pretty simple: execs keeping their word.

          Met with a guy who runs a downtown casino last Friday. He agreed to pay for that reception I mentioned earlier. Great guy. I asked him, might we have the check next week? He said, "There's no might about it. You will have the check next week."

          So it's really no surprise that the check didn't arrive today.

          And this isn't an isolated incident; it happens all the time.

          Wang, does this happen in China? It happens a lot out here. And it's not as if it's white lies, either. If the check wasn't going to be sent out this week, DON'T TELL ME IT WILL BE.

          Fucking simple as that.
          [/b][/quote]

          that is why a contract is always better than a man's word.

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          • #6
            QUOTE(lasvegasreb @ Sep 23 2005, 07:21 PM) Quoted post

            Heugy,

            Just looking at the Prep News today, H. Eric turns 40?!!

            So when I started he was 28??! Unreal.

            Did your son have any run-ins with him? We used to get into it about dress code.

            Famous letter to the Prep News, written by me, before your son was there, unfortunately. I would get letters from SLUH mothers telling me I was right, it was weird.
            [/b][/quote]


            No, my son was a good boy. Not a shit disturber like you. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

            Did you read the Prep News about last years senior prank? I can't remember what they used but filled Clarks office with something. Nothing destructive, in fact it was very much appreciated by the administration. Check out the first issue this year. I think it was in that one.
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            • #7
              QUOTE(jhuegy @ Sep 23 2005, 06:12 PM) Quoted post

              That's just the way society is today. Total lack of integrity. Just look at dubya or Matt Blunt. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif[/img]
              [/b][/quote]


              +fucking+

              Living in Key West for the better part of my life everyone knew everyone. So for the most part you knew who not to trust and if people kept their word for the most part or it would come back to bite them in the ass. However, since I moved up to Miami I've been shocked by how people here make promises and give you their word but fail to live up to it. I mean that flat out lie to your face. It has been quite an eye opening experience.

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              • #8
                You don't have to tell me about waiting for payment...
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                • #9
                  QUOTE(Xavier @ Sep 23 2005, 08:35 PM) Quoted post

                  QUOTE(jhuegy @ Sep 23 2005, 06:12 PM) Quoted post

                  That's just the way society is today. Total lack of integrity. Just look at dubya or Matt Blunt. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif[/img]
                  [/b][/quote]


                  +fucking+

                  Living in Key West for the better part of my life everyone knew everyone. So for the most part you knew who not to trust and if people kept their word for the most part or it would come back to bite them in the ass. However, since I moved up to Miami I've been shocked by how people here make promises and give you their word but fail to live up to it. I mean that flat out lie to your face. It has been quite an eye opening experience.
                  [/b][/quote]

                  I cheapshotted dubya and Blunt but the premise remains. People today do not keep their word. Everyone is out for #1 and not worried about the poor, disabled, less fortunate and each other all around. It really is a shame. That's why unions have a tough time in a way. Nobody wants to stick together and stay united. They all want what they want and to hell with everybody else. Walmart is the same way. They want to monopolize the market instead of just being happy with a large piece of the pie. I could go on and on.
                  RIP Stan the Man
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                  I miss TLR!

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                  • #10
                    It's not execs...it's everyone. I've got about $4k in receivables out that I'll probably never see...and that entire amount comes directly out of my paycheck. I'm tired of bastards making 3-5 times what I do working at Boeing or GM bitching about prices and/or bouncing checks and basically saying "fuck you" when I ask to get paid for my work.

                    Dat's right!

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                    • #11
                      QUOTE(Rdog3933 @ Sep 23 2005, 11:19 PM) Quoted post

                      It's not execs...it's everyone. I've got about $4k in receivables out that I'll probably never see...and that entire amount comes directly out of my paycheck. I'm tired of bastards making 3-5 times what I do working at Boeing or GM bitching about prices and/or bouncing checks and basically saying "fuck you" when I ask to get paid for my work.
                      [/b][/quote]


                      How convenient, you pick on me and Yaks. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]


                      BTW, I pay my bills. I'm not one of those deadbeats. I don't bowl but if I did I'd buy a ball from you anyday. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]
                      RIP Stan the Man
                      The StL Blues will NEVER win the Stanley Cup. I repeat, NEVER!
                      I miss TLR!

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                      • #12
                        I teach. The only broken promises I get are those by parents and kids. It's not monetary in my case. But it's one of the reasons it's so easy to break promises in the "real world" today (imo).

                        I have my students sign a contract on the second day of school. The contract basically says what I expect in my classroom. If students agree with my rules and expectations (which are simple and reasonable) then they sign it and I hold them to it. If a student doesn't sign it, it makes me try harder to get that kid to respect me. Whatever it takes.

                        I deal with a lot of broken contracts, but those contracts are of a different kind. Similar examples though. Both cases can be broken down to people not understanding what it means to give someone your word. It goes back to not being raised with a sense of responsibility.

                        I'm pretty wasted. Kewl.

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                        • #13
                          QUOTE(jhuegy @ Sep 23 2005, 11:21 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(Rdog3933 @ Sep 23 2005, 11:19 PM) Quoted post

                          It's not execs...it's everyone. I've got about $4k in receivables out that I'll probably never see...and that entire amount comes directly out of my paycheck. I'm tired of bastards making 3-5 times what I do working at Boeing or GM bitching about prices and/or bouncing checks and basically saying "fuck you" when I ask to get paid for my work.
                          [/b][/quote]


                          How convenient, you pick on me and Yaks. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]


                          BTW, I pay my bills. I'm not one of those deadbeats. I don't bowl but if I did I'd buy a ball from you anyday. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]
                          [/b][/quote]
                          Not picking on you, huegy...and doesn't madyaks work at Fenton? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img] (And, you're not in my market area, but I'd help you out. But, I'll never pass on a chance to take a shot at unions... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img] )
                          My clientele is blue-collar (hell, bowling is a blue-collar sport.) A lot of them work at Boeing or GM-Wentzville; we have a Wed. night Boeing men's league. I have a very good idea of how well they're paid, and it's a hell of a lot more than I make. But...every week I have some joker coming in and saying "G-D, you trying to pay off your Mercedes?" (Wouldn't have one; I drive a Fenton-built Voyager minivan. Like keeping my money local.)

                          And, for the record...I respect what you, madyaks, and anyone else that actually works for a living do. At least you're not on an Internet forum all day at work... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]

                          Dat's right!

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                          • #14
                            QUOTE("F @ Sep 23 2005, 11:30 PM) Quoted post

                            I teach. The only broken promises I get are those by parents and kids. It's not monetary in my case. But it's one of the reasons it's so easy to break promises in the "real world" today (imo).

                            I have my students sign a contract on the second day of school. The contract basically says what I expect in my classroom. If students agree with my rules and expectations (which are simple and reasonable) then they sign it and I hold them to it. If a student doesn't sign it, it makes me try harder to get that kid to respect me. Whatever it takes.

                            I deal with a lot of broken contracts, but those contracts are of a different kind. Similar examples though. Both cases can be broken down to people not understanding what it means to give someone your word. It goes back to not being raised with a sense of responsibility.

                            I'm pretty wasted. Kewl.

                            Just sayin'. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
                            [/b][/quote]


                            You sound pretty sound to me. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

                            Do you give the kids the opportunity to not sign and are the parents involved or notified of this process? I thinks it's great that you do that. I really get tired of hearing about parents that don't teach their kids responsibility and discipline. In my opinion those are the two most important traits you can teach your kids. More and more parents are wanting to be "friends" with their kids instead of the authority figure. I just don't understand that. It's just parents being lazy in their own responsibilities. Sooner or later you have to suck it up and be a responsible person.
                            RIP Stan the Man
                            The StL Blues will NEVER win the Stanley Cup. I repeat, NEVER!
                            I miss TLR!

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                            • #15
                              QUOTE(Rdog3933 @ Sep 23 2005, 11:36 PM) Quoted post

                              QUOTE(jhuegy @ Sep 23 2005, 11:21 PM) Quoted post

                              QUOTE(Rdog3933 @ Sep 23 2005, 11:19 PM) Quoted post

                              It's not execs...it's everyone. I've got about $4k in receivables out that I'll probably never see...and that entire amount comes directly out of my paycheck. I'm tired of bastards making 3-5 times what I do working at Boeing or GM bitching about prices and/or bouncing checks and basically saying "fuck you" when I ask to get paid for my work.
                              [/b][/quote]


                              How convenient, you pick on me and Yaks. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]


                              BTW, I pay my bills. I'm not one of those deadbeats. I don't bowl but if I did I'd buy a ball from you anyday. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]
                              [/b][/quote]
                              Not picking on you, huegy...and doesn't madyaks work at Fenton? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img] (And, you're not in my market area, but I'd help you out. But, I'll never pass on a chance to take a shot at unions... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img] )
                              My clientele is blue-collar (hell, bowling is a blue-collar sport.) A lot of them work at Boeing or GM-Wentzville; we have a Wed. night Boeing men's league. I have a very good idea of how well they're paid, and it's a hell of a lot more than I make. But...every week I have some joker coming in and saying "G-D, you trying to pay off your Mercedes?" (Wouldn't have one; I drive a Fenton-built Voyager minivan. Like keeping my money local.)

                              And, for the record...I respect what you, madyaks, and anyone else that actually works for a living do. At least you're not on an Internet forum all day at work... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]
                              [/b][/quote]


                              Not a problem. I knew Yaks worked in Fenton but it was a good joke to gig you with.

                              Good for you that you spend your money locally. You can't judge a book by it's cover and you can't judge all workers by the name on the top of the paycheck. It all goes back to being responsible.

                              I'd LOVE to be on the internet while I'm at work but 1. I don't have time, I work hard, seriously. and 2. I don't have access. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]
                              RIP Stan the Man
                              The StL Blues will NEVER win the Stanley Cup. I repeat, NEVER!
                              I miss TLR!

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