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    Some forum members brought this up when we were talking about federal money going to Katrina victims. This is from dailykos, thought some would be interested:





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    Yet due to funds in a new transportation bill, which President Bush is scheduled to sign Wednesday, Sallee and his neighbors may soon receive a bridge nearly as long as the Golden Gate Bridge and 80 feet taller than the Brooklyn Bridge. With a $223 million check from the federal government, the bridge will connect Gravina [population less than 50] to the bustling Alaskan metropolis of Ketchikan, pop. 8,000.

    "How is the bridge going to pay for itself?" asks Susan Walsh, Sallee's wife, who works as a nurse in Ketchikan. She notes that a ferry, which runs every 15 minutes in the summer, already connects Gravina to Ketchikan. "It can get us to the hospital in five minutes. How is this bridge fair to the rest of the country?" [...]

    Included in the bill's special Alaska projects is $231 million for a bridge that will connect Anchorage to Port MacKenzie, a rural area that has exactly one resident, north of the town of Knik, pop. 22. The land is a network of swamps between a few hummocks of dry ground. Although it may or may not set the stage for future development, the bridge, to be named "Don Young's Way," will not save commuters into Anchorage any time, says Walt Parker, a former Alaska commissioner of highways.
    [/b][/quote]


    So are they reconsidering in light of Katrina?


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    In any case it won't die: the idea that Alaska, to help Hurricane Katrina victims, should forfeit the dough it got in the federal highway bill for the Knik and Gravina bridges.

    The New York Times: "Surely Rep. Don Young, the Alaska Republican who is chairman of the transportation committee, might put off that $223 million 'bridge to nowhere' in his state's outback. It's redundant now -- Louisiana suddenly has several bridges to nowhere."

    The Wall Street Journal: "That same half a billion dollars (for the two Alaska bridges) could rebuild thousands of homes for suffering New Orleans evacuees."

    No doubt to make Alaskans look bad, city leaders in Bozeman, Mont., are investigating whether they can give Katrina victims the $4 million they got in the federal bill for a downtown parking garage.

    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., raised the charitable pork idea on the Senate floor last week, although he stopped short of endorsing it.

    So, how about it, Mr. Chairman?

    "They can kiss my ear!" Young boomed when Sam Bishop, Washington correspondent for the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, asked him about the many pleas to redirect the bridge money.

    "That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard," Young went on, noting that Louisiana did quite well in his highway bill.

    And, the congressman said, he helped the seafood industry donate more than $500,000 for hurricane victims. (That was at the "Seafood Invitational," a charity golf tournament Sept. 9 in Roslyn, Wash., Bishop reported Friday.)

    "I raised enough money to give back to them voluntarily," he said, "and that's it!"
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    Dude. Can. Fly.

  • #2
    What a waste.
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    • #3
      What's worse is that the state of Alaska could easily afford this themselves if they kept the revenues from their oil that they currently give back to their residents.
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      • #4
        QUOTE(BringBackZezel @ Sep 19 2005, 07:27 PM) Quoted post

        What's worse is that the state of Alaska could easily afford this themselves if they kept the revenues from their oil that they currently give back to their residents.
        [/b][/quote]

        How silly to give the profits from the state back to the people of the state.
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        • #5
          Ah, Republicans. The party of fiscal discipline and small government. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
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          • #6
            How much will it cost the government to rebuild the igloos for the displaced eskimos?
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            • #7
              QUOTE(Razzy @ Sep 19 2005, 09:26 PM) Quoted post

              How much will it cost the government to rebuild the igloos for the displaced eskimos?
              [/b][/quote]

              How racially insensitive.

              Typical Rass stuff.
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              • #8
                QUOTE(kah @ Sep 19 2005, 09:17 PM) Quoted post

                Ah, Republicans. The party of fiscal discipline and small government. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
                [/b][/quote]
                Yes, Kah.

                We have no money for New Orleans. Thank you.

                Racist.

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                • #9
                  grote,

                  You've never been more on the money.

                  Kah is the very definition of the soft bigotry of low expectations.
                  And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

                  -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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                  • #10
                    QUOTE(pgrote @ Sep 19 2005, 10:00 PM) Quoted post

                    QUOTE(kah @ Sep 19 2005, 09:17 PM) Quoted post

                    Ah, Republicans. The party of fiscal discipline and small government. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
                    [/b][/quote]
                    Yes, Kah.

                    We have no money for New Orleans. Thank you.

                    Racist.
                    [/b][/quote]


                    I thought YOU were the one upset about the bridge?
                    Dude. Can. Fly.

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                    • #11
                      QUOTE(pgrote @ Sep 19 2005, 08:00 PM) Quoted post

                      We have no money for New Orleans. Thank you.[/b][/quote]


                      [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img] Bridges to nowhere, courtesy of the small-government GOP.

                      I've been to Ketchikan. There is nothing anywhere there that requires a suspension bridge, let me tell you. Lots of good bars, though. Lots of drunk-ass sailors leaving Ketchikan that day.
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                      • #12
                        QUOTE(dvyyyyyy @ Sep 19 2005, 10:04 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(pgrote @ Sep 19 2005, 10:00 PM) Quoted post

                        QUOTE(kah @ Sep 19 2005, 09:17 PM) Quoted post

                        Ah, Republicans. The party of fiscal discipline and small government. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
                        [/b][/quote]
                        Yes, Kah.

                        We have no money for New Orleans. Thank you.

                        Racist.
                        [/b][/quote]


                        I thought YOU were the one upset about the bridge?
                        [/b][/quote]
                        Yes. I've maintained there's ton of pork in all spending bills from both sides.

                        For Kah to put a dig into this is just insensitive and duplicitous. The rebuilding of the gulf coast supercedes any parties affinity for smaller government and balanced budgets.

                        I guess the only question is if we want to stop the way our government spends its money. There is no line item veto, so the President has to approve or disapprove the whole thing.

                        The ball is in Congress' court as vetoing any budget leads to the shutdown of government as we had in the 90s.

                        I don't mind making the deficit larger to rebuild the coast and I don't think anyone else should mind either.

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                        • #13
                          QUOTE(kah @ Sep 19 2005, 10:04 PM) Quoted post

                          QUOTE(pgrote @ Sep 19 2005, 08:00 PM) Quoted post

                          We have no money for New Orleans. Thank you.[/b][/quote]


                          [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img] Bridges to nowhere, courtesy of the small-government GOP.

                          I've been to Ketchikan. There is nothing anywhere there that requires a suspension bridge, let me tell you. Lots of good bars, though. Lots of drunk-ass sailors leaving Ketchikan that day.
                          [/b][/quote]
                          Yes. It's only republicans with pork snouts. I mean West Virginia's government money is entirely deserved.

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                          • #14
                            QUOTE(pgrote @ Sep 19 2005, 08:09 PM) Quoted post

                            For Kah to put a dig into this is just insensitive and duplicitous.[/b][/quote]

                            Thought I was supposed to be the one who was overly sensitive.

                            I frankly wasn't thinking about Hurricane Katrina. Don Young's Bridge to Nowhere was a popular example of gov't pork run amuck since before the hurricane hit. And I enjoy ridiculing the notion of the GOP as the party of small government. It's fun. Frankly, we will never sniff a balanced budget again as long as the GOP holds dominion over Washington.

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                            The ball is in Congress' court as vetoing any budget leads to the shutdown of government as we had in the 90s.[/b][/quote]

                            Your party controls the whole waxworks, pgrote! GW Bush has not vetoed one single bill in nearly five years in office. Think there's even a tiny chance of a showdown like the one that occurred in 1995? Nope. Zero. If the GOP wanted to balance the budget, they would. They don't. They're the credit card party. Spend now, pay later. And while it's entirely justifiable to do that in the short term, to rebuild after Katrina, there are things they could do to reduce the impact. Like, say, repealing some of Dubya's tax cuts--but that won't happen.
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                            • #15
                              Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

                              Democrat pork is so sweet it inspires rampant duplication.
                              And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

                              -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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