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  • "I'm a throat slasher, not a back stabber."

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    Team exec will get reprimand for threatening phone message
    By Jim Thomas
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    09/13/2005

    Rams president John Shaw said team executive Samir Suleiman would be reprimanded for leaving a threatening phone message on the voice mail of Post-Dispatch columnist Bernie Miklasz.

    "It's shocking that he would leave a message like that," Shaw told the Post-Dispatch on Tuesday. "It's the type of behavior that we don't condone on any level. He will be reprimanded, and it will be handled internally."

    Shaw declined to say what the reprimand would entail.

    In an Aug. 28 column in the Post-Dispatch, Miklasz wrote that Rams executives owed the head coach - no matter who he was - their support instead of back-stabbing him. Advertisement


    Apparently in response to that column, Suleiman left a message on Miklasz's voice mail stating, in part, "tell your source that I'm not a back-stabber, I'm a (expletive) throat slasher, and he'll know the difference before it's all said and done."

    Suleiman, who has the title of director of football administration, has worked for the Rams for six years. He assists president of football operations Jay Zygmunt on salary cap issues and contract negotiations.

    Shaw said Tuesday that Suleiman's phone message showed "a lack of judgment. I really don't understand it, to be honest with you."


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  • #2
    So, if you're Suleiman, you gotta be pissed that Bernie made this public. Is this something that Bernie should have reported?

    I say yes. The guy was a complete idiot for doing something like this and I'm surprised he isn't losing his job.
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    • #3
      He called a reporter and left a message on his voicemail. How could he possibly expect for it NOT to be reported?
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      • #4
        When I saw the headline I was hoping Bernie was going to be the ass in this one. Its almost impossible to not look good in a confrontation with Rams personnel these days though.

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        • #5
          Hells yeah you report it if you're Bernie.

          The disarray and poison in the Rams front-office is a news story. We've heard vague hints and suggestions about it going back to 2001 with the Armey vs. Zygmunt stuff...but no one's really gone on record that deeply, and it's tough to put a real solid lock on how dysfunctional those jackholes are by reporting on the "feel" around Rams Park, or the bunker mentality, or whatever.

          This sordid little incident draws the whole thing into sharp relief. It makes it very easy for any reader to understand just how far from normal things around the executive branch of this team have strayed.
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          • #6
            QUOTE(Lippa @ Sep 14 2005, 08:15 AM) Quoted post

            He called a reporter and left a message on his voicemail. How could he possibly expect for it NOT to be reported?
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            Stupidity I guess. But reporters hear things all the time that are "off the record". He was an idiot for leaving a tape recorded message - now he has no chance to say he was misquoted or it was taken out of context.
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            • #7


              Back to Initech for Samir.

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              • #8
                QUOTE(triggercut1 @ Sep 14 2005, 08:18 AM) Quoted post

                Hells yeah you report it if you're Bernie.

                The disarray and poison in the Rams front-office is a news story. We've heard vague hints and suggestions about it going back to 2001 with the Armey vs. Zygmunt stuff...but no one's really gone on record that deeply, and it's tough to put a real solid lock on how dysfunctional those jackholes are by reporting on the "feel" around Rams Park, or the bunker mentality, or whatever.

                This sordid little incident draws the whole thing into sharp relief. It makes it very easy for any reader to understand just how far from normal things around the executive branch of this team have strayed.
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                Good summary, Triggercut. I am not the biggest Rams fan, but I have enjoyed watching them over the last 10+ years. I am praying for a bad year so they can blow that front office up. The situation has to be the source of much laughter around the League, harkening back to the days of the SOSAR. The opening kickoff from last week's game was not only a microcosm of the team's ineptitude, but also applies to the FO.

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                • #9
                  The Rams are a joke...and it's not all Mike Martz fault, they are all pretty shitty really.
                  You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

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                  • #10
                    QUOTE(triggercut1 @ Sep 14 2005, 09:18 AM) Quoted post

                    Hells yeah you report it if you're Bernie.

                    The disarray and poison in the Rams front-office is a news story. We've heard vague hints and suggestions about it going back to 2001 with the Armey vs. Zygmunt stuff...but no one's really gone on record that deeply, and it's tough to put a real solid lock on how dysfunctional those jackholes are by reporting on the "feel" around Rams Park, or the bunker mentality, or whatever.

                    This sordid little incident draws the whole thing into sharp relief. It makes it very easy for any reader to understand just how far from normal things around the executive branch of this team have strayed.
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                    Its now Zygmunt v Martz now since Samir works for Zygmunt.

                    Zygmunt is trying to angle to be the big honcho when John Shaw leaves the team for good. That front office is really fucked up and the blame lies in front of Shaw for allowing it to happen and to Georgia for not caring.

                    Old Ram timers said this has been going on for a long time back to LA days since Shaw took over.

                    Too bad Bernie or other local reporters do not have the balls to take Shaw, Georgia, and everyone else to the task for having a fucked up front office. One or two articles is not enough. There should be series of articles exposing the whole workings. It is a company town so this shit will continue.

                    Not that it absolves Martz of his crappy coaching.

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                    • #11
                      Its too bad that this will likely cost us Charlie Armey and Jay Zygmunt, both of whom know what the fuck they are doing. If Shaw had clearly defined roles for these people, things wouldn't be this bad, but he has allowed it to get out of control.

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                      • #12
                        With that kind of killer instinct, I wonder if Samir wants to suit up on Sunday for the special teams?
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                        • #13
                          dumb dumb dumb
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                          • #14
                            QUOTE(Moon Man @ Sep 14 2005, 08:26 AM) Quoted post



                            Back to Initech for Samir.

                            Moon
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                            That is awesome.

                            As far as reporting it. Absolutely.

                            It's a story if Rams front office folk are trying to get chummy with espn folk by leaking bullshit stories.

                            It's a story if revealing that causes some guy to go batshit.
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                            • #15
                              QUOTE(Moon Man @ Sep 14 2005, 08:41 AM) Quoted post

                              Its too bad that this will likely cost us Charlie Armey and Jay Zygmunt, both of whom know what the fuck they are doing. If Shaw had clearly defined roles for these people, things wouldn't be this bad, but he has allowed it to get out of control.

                              Moon
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                              Honestly, I cannot believe they have both stayed this long. I wish Armey was still in charge of the draft.

                              About a week ago, I tuned into KTRS and Karraker was talking about a former Dolphin Dir of Pro Personnel named Schneider (or something like that) in talks to take on a "significant" role within the Rams.

                              I haven't heard or seen anything about this since. Anyone else hear that?
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