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**007** · 09-13-2005, 04:04 PM

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Among guys who started at least 20 games, who led the Cardinals in ERA in 1967?
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Dick Hughes or Larry Jaster?

**kennyboyerfan** · 09-13-2005, 04:06 PM

Steve Carlton.

**bombay** · 09-13-2005, 04:14 PM

I cheated.

**backstop** · 09-13-2005, 04:22 PM

Dick Hughes. Although 007 has still yet to answer any question exactly.

**moedrabowsky** · 09-13-2005, 04:26 PM

QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 13 2005, 04:22 PM) Quoted post

Dick Hughes. Although 007 has still yet to answer any question exactly.
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I think he might probably be trying to.

Also, it's not trivia -- I really want the answer.

Since the league split into divisions, what's the earliest the Cards have clinched?

In 82 it Sept. 27 (don't ask how I know that), so that's going to get blown away.

Anyone

**Charlie Sheen** · 09-13-2005, 04:27 PM

QUOTE(*007* @ Sep 13 2005, 04:04 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 13 2005, 05:02 PM) Quoted post

Among guys who started at least 20 games, who led the Cardinals in ERA in 1967?
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Dick Hughes or Larry Jaster?
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You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

**007** · 09-13-2005, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(*007* @ Sep 13 2005, 04:04 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 13 2005, 05:02 PM) Quoted post

Among guys who started at least 20 games, who led the Cardinals in ERA in 1967?
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Dick Hughes or Larry Jaster?
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[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif[/img]
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Nope...try picking two guys in that rotation not named Carlton or Gibson and it makes it easier [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 13 2005, 05:22 PM) Quoted post

Dick Hughes. Although 007 has still yet to answer any question exactly.
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What the hell was your question? I picked two guys not named Gibson or Carlton....

"Can't buy what I want because it's free...
Can't buy what I want because it's free..."

-- Pearl Jam, from the single Corduroy

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**backstop** · 09-13-2005, 04:38 PM

QUOTE(moedrabowsky @ Sep 13 2005, 05:26 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 13 2005, 04:22 PM) Quoted post

Dick Hughes. Although 007 has still yet to answer any question exactly.
[/b][/quote]

I think he might probably be trying to.

Also, it's not trivia -- I really want the answer.

Since the league split into divisions, what's the earliest the Cards have clinched?

In 82 it Sept. 27 (don't ask how I know that), so that's going to get blown away.

Anyone
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Best I can tell:

1985: October 5
1987: October 1
1996: Sept. 24
2000: Sept. 19
2002: Sept. 20
2004: Sept. 20

**ShortHop** · 09-13-2005, 04:42 PM

QUOTE(*007* @ Sep 13 2005, 04:30 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Sep 13 2005, 05:27 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(*007* @ Sep 13 2005, 04:04 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 13 2005, 05:02 PM) Quoted post

Among guys who started at least 20 games, who led the Cardinals in ERA in 1967?
[/b][/quote]
Dick Hughes or Larry Jaster?
[/b][/quote]

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif[/img]
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Nope...try picking two guys in that rotation not named Carlton or Gibson and it makes it easier [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 13 2005, 05:22 PM) Quoted post

Dick Hughes. Although 007 has still yet to answer any question exactly.
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What the hell was your question? I picked two guys not named Gibson or Carlton....
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So you know the whole '67 roster off the top of your head? That's impressive to me for a young guy.

Of course you do.

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**007** · 09-13-2005, 04:43 PM

QUOTE(ShortHop @ Sep 13 2005, 05:42 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(*007* @ Sep 13 2005, 04:30 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Sep 13 2005, 05:27 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(*007* @ Sep 13 2005, 04:04 PM) Quoted post

QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 13 2005, 05:02 PM) Quoted post

Among guys who started at least 20 games, who led the Cardinals in ERA in 1967?
[/b][/quote]
Dick Hughes or Larry Jaster?
[/b][/quote]

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif[/img]
[/b][/quote]
Nope...try picking two guys in that rotation not named Carlton or Gibson and it makes it easier [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 13 2005, 05:22 PM) Quoted post

Dick Hughes. Although 007 has still yet to answer any question exactly.
[/b][/quote]
What the hell was your question? I picked two guys not named Gibson or Carlton....
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So you know the whole '67 roster off the top of your head? That's impressive to me for a young guy.
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I know the starters...didn't say I knew the roster [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

"Can't buy what I want because it's free...
Can't buy what I want because it's free..."

-- Pearl Jam, from the single Corduroy

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**TTB** · 09-13-2005, 06:10 PM

Hmmm 67 roster - let's see how I do

Brock
Flood
Maris
Cepeda
McCarver
Shannon
Javier
Maxvill
Gibson
Carlton
Hughes
Briles
Washburn
Hoerner
Jaster
Granger
Gagliano
Johnson
Tolan
Ricketts
Spezio

That's most of em

**jhuegy** · 09-13-2005, 07:02 PM

QUOTE(TTB @ Sep 13 2005, 07:10 PM) Quoted post

Hmmm 67 roster - let's see how I do

Brock
Flood
Maris
Cepeda
McCarver
Shannon
Javier
Maxvill
Gibson
Carlton
Hughes
Briles
Washburn
Hoerner
Jaster
Granger
Gagliano
Johnson
Tolan
Ricketts
Spezio

That's most of em
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Not bad TTB, how old are you? Here's what baseball almanac says:

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Complete Roster

# Pitchers Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
34 Nelson Briles 5-11 200 Right Right 08-05-1943
32 Steve Carlton 6-04 210 Left Left 12-22-1944
42 Jim Cosman 6-04½ 211 Right Right 02-19-1943
45 Bob Gibson 6-01½ 195 Right Right 11-09-1935
43 Joe Hoerner 6-01 200 Left Right 11-12-1936
31 Dick Hughes 6-03 195 Right Right 02-13-1938
38 Al Jackson 5-10 169 Left Left 12-25-1935
39 Larry Jaster 6-03½ 205 Left Left 01-13-1944
23 Jack Lamabe 6-01 198 Right Right 10-03-1936
48 Mike Torrez 6-05 220 Right Right 08-28-1946
44 Ray Washburn 6-01 205 Right Right 05-31-1938
36 Ron Willis 6-02 195 Right Right 07-12-1943
46 Hal Woodeshick 6-03 200 Left Right 08-24-1932
# Catchers Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
15 Tim McCarver 6-01 195 Right Left 10-16-1941
10 Dave Ricketts 6-02 195 Right Both 07-12-1935
1 Johnny Romano 5-11 205 Right Right 08-23-1934
# Infielders Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
11 Eddie Bressoud 6-01 175 Right Right 05-02-1932
30 Orlando Cepeda 6-02 210 Right Right 09-17-1937
16 Phil Gagliano 6-01 185 Right Right 12-27-1941
14 Steve Huntz 6-01 204 Right Both 12-03-1945
25 Julian Javier 6-01 175 Right Right 08-09-1936
27 Dal Maxvill 5-11 160 Right Right 02-18-1939
18 Mike Shannon 6-03 195 Right Right 07-15-1939
26 Ed Spiezio 5-11 180 Right Right 10-31-1941
24 Jimy Williams 5-10 170 Right Right 10-04-1943
# Outfielders Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
20 Lou Brock 5-11½ 170 Left Left 06-18-1939
21 Curt Flood 5-09 165 Right Right 01-18-1938
12 Alex Johnson 6-00 205 Right Right 12-07-1942
9 Roger Maris 6-00 204 Right Left 09-10-1934
17 Bobby Tolan 5-11 170 Left Left 11-19-1945
# Other Positions Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
22 Ted Savage 6-01 185 Right Right 02-21-1936[/b][/quote]

RIP Stan the Man
The StL Blues will NEVER win the Stanley Cup. I repeat, NEVER!

I miss TLR!

**jhuegy** · 09-13-2005, 07:14 PM

Upon further review, you were right on all but Granger. The only ones you missed were Cosman, Jackson, Lamabe, Torrez, Willis, Woodeschick, Romano, Bressoud, Huntz, Williams and Savage. Pretty fucking impressive! I had most of the ones you had. I had most of those baseball cards at one time. I wish I had them now! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]

**TTB** · 09-13-2005, 07:45 PM

QUOTE(jhuegy @ Sep 13 2005, 08:14 PM) Quoted post

Upon further review, you were right on all but Granger. The only ones you missed were Cosman, Jackson, Lamabe, Torrez, Willis, Woodeschick, Romano, Bressoud, Huntz, Williams and Savage. Pretty fucking impressive! I had most of the ones you had. I had most of those baseball cards at one time. I wish I had them now! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]
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I only saw one game that year and don't really even remember that. I was just a tyke.

I have looked at the stats from that season though many times. I could also come with a few % points on most of their stats from memory.

I happen to have a good memory.

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