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    This is the thread where I post info on the game of the season (at least the regular season) for my own personal enjoyment...if you find something worth while, great. The anticipation here is just awesome and the party starts tomorrow night...can't wait.

    Again, if you are a football fan and don't have big plans for Saturday night, this game needs to be on at your house/bar, whatever. There will be alot of NFL talent on display and a night game at Ohio Stadium is a sight to see.

    One quick note, apparently OLB Bobby Carpenter said something along the lines of "Vince Young will no longer be in the Heisman race after he leaves here on Saturday night", which has ruffled some feathers...Jim Tressel commented on it yesterday by saying "I understand what Bobby was trying to say, in that, we need to stop Vince to win this game, but thats not how I would've worded it".

    Avenging snub isn’t deep in the heart of this Texan ’Horns failure to recruit him doesn’t faze Schlegel
    Thursday, September 08, 2005
    Ken Gordon

    OSU’s Anthony Schlegel, shown fighting off Miami’s Dan Tyler, holds no grudge against Texas — but his wife and dad do.

    He certainly could harbor deep-seated animosity toward the University of Texas, if only Anthony Schlegel were wired differently. After all, the flagship university of Schlegel’s home state ignored him when he was a high-school star in the Dallas area. Too small, the Longhorns thought, eyeing the lean physique he cultivated for the other sport he loved, wrestling.
    Instead, Schlegel embarked on an odyssey that saw him spend two years at Air Force before transferring to Ohio State.

    And it is here, as a fifth-year senior, that he gets a chance on

    to show Texas exactly what it missed.

    It could be a great story, except Schlegel doesn’t feel that way. Well, maybe just a tiny bit, but it doesn’t frame this game for him by any means.

    "It’s not like I hate them or anything," Schlegel said of the Longhorns. "Honestly, it really didn’t matter to me that I didn’t go there."

    Schlegel challenges some of the stereotypes that go with being a tough Texan linebacker.

    His cowboy boots and big belt buckles suggest Texas, as does his affinity for wildboar hunting and aversion to shaving.

    But Schlegel also is something of a teddy bear of a man. He got married on Valentine’s Day 2004 to a girl he met as a freshman in high school. He annually calls every father he knows to wish them a happy Father’s Day.

    So his personality is such that he is not steaming with resentment this week.

    For venom, one must turn to his family, including his father, Roger, a former Dallas high-school coach, and Anthony’s wife Stephanie, who went to Texas A&M, the Longhorns’ hated rival.

    "When you get into A &M and go to freshman-orientation camp, the first thing they teach you is ‘Saw Varsity’s horns off,’ " Stephanie said with some emotion in her voice. "It’s all about beating Texas."

    Stephanie never got to enjoy a victory over Texas, as the Aggies lost every meeting in the three years it took her to get her education degree. So it’s not just Anthony she’s talking about when she refers to Saturday’s game as a "dream come true."

    "We have a lot of family coming in, and then back home a lot of people are going to be able to watch (Anthony) who don’t usually get to see him play," she said. "That’s exciting."

    Roger Schlegel also has some hard feelings that the big home-state schools did not recruit his son.

    "They never showed any interest," he said. "Texas is like they pretend they’re a step above everybody."

    Roger said Anthony’s main choice of schools came down to Missouri, Rice, Air Force or Iowa State. After two years of chafing under some of the restrictions of academy life, Schlegel briefly toyed with transferring to Texas A &M before settling on OSU.

    Now, the Schlegels say Ohio feels like home. Stephanie teaches at Hilliard Davidson High School, while Anthony, 24, plays his final season.

    "When Anthony comes to my school and volunteers, all the kids wish him luck, and it’s the same way with the people at our church," Stephanie said. "He loves things like that.

    "The way the people here have embraced us, this is our family now."

    Anthony Schlegel does admit that a small seed of motivation lies deep inside him. He sometimes wonders why Texas and Texas A &M chose to recruit other linebackers he considered inferior.

    "I definitely felt I could’ve played there," he said. "I thought, ‘What’s going on here?’ "

    And then the hint of animosity disappeared as quickly as it appeared, and Schlegel turned to a more positive subject.

    "God had a plan for me to end up at Ohio State, and now I love it here," he said. "Now I wouldn’t have it any other way."
    Buy a fake ticket? Too bad, OSU says
    Thursday, September 08, 2005
    Kathy Lynn Gray

    Beware the fake.

    And not on the football field.

    As the University of Texas football game creeps closer and the price of a ticket spins higher than $1,000 on the Internet, Ohio State University officials are warning that they expect counterfeit tickets to show up at the Saturday game.

    Their message: Don’t come crying to us if you get stuck.

    "Fans need to be very, very cautious about where their tickets are coming from," said Richelle Simonson, OSU associate athletics director.

    OSU can’t reimburse someone if they purchase a bogus ticket, she said.

    High-tech reproduction methods mean con artists can create counterfeit tickets that look almost exactly like the real thing, Simonson said.

    OSU issues several kinds of tickets, including student, alumni, staff and general purchase. Each has a slightly different look. Most have the words Ohio State on the front in red foil. All ticket fronts should have a bar code, which is scanned at the stadium gate.

    If the bar code doesn’t go through, the ticket holder is not admitted, Simonson said.

    She knows of no cases of counterfeit tickets at OSU games last year, but the problem has popped up before.

    More than 100 fakes sur- faced in 1996 before the OSUMichigan game. Sixty-four — all for the same two seats — showed up in 1997 when the Buckeyes played the University of Iowa. Sixty fake tickets were sold for OSU’s 2002 game against Michigan.

    The OSU-Texas game at 8 p.m. Saturday has been sold out for some time, but plenty of tickets remain available — at hefty prices.

    Yesterday, 491 sets of tickets were posted on eBay, with prices ranging from $200 to $1,500. At another site, Stub-Hub, ticket prices ranged from $295 to $1,800 -- all for a single ticket.

    On eBay, many sellers include photographs of their tickets and at least some were listed as "student" tickets.

    Anyone entering the stadium with a student ticket also must present an OSU student ID. That ID does not have to belong to the individual using the ticket, Simonson said.

    Some Web sites that sell tickets have ways to control counterfeiting. StubHub keeps a credit-card number on file for each seller; if a buyer found his or her ticket was counterfeit, StubHub would charge the cost of the ticket to the seller’s card, a spokeswoman said.

    Other sites, such as TickCo, buy only from season-ticket holders.

    Simonson suggests buying tickets from someone you know.

    "It’s very dangerous to buy just off the street," she said.

    Scalpers are expected to be out in force near Ohio Stadium on Saturday. Columbus does not prohibit charging more than face value for a ticket, but the back of each OSU ticket states that it cannot be sold for more than face value.

    For detailed information about OSU-Texas tickets, go to
    You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."

  • #2
    Texan a Buckeye now
    Houston-raised Youboty standout as OSU cornerback
    Thursday, September 08, 2005
    Tim May

    Ashton Youboty’s ability to single-cover receivers gives Ohio State’s defense versatility.

    It’s pretty easy to tell Ohio State linebacker Anthony Schlegel is from Texas. If the cowboy boots don’t tip you off, his free spirit will.

    With that in mind, cornerback Ashton Youboty does not appear to be from the same group picture.

    From his reserved demeanor, to a voice which bears no hint of a Texas twang, to his shoes — the other day he had on a soft-looking pair of dress black slip-ons — Youboty appears to be the antithesis of Texan.

    But he is from Texas. He was born in Liberia and lived in Philadelphia until his family moved to a Houston suburb when he was in the eighth grade. And you know what they say, once you’ve lived in Texas, you’re always a Texan.

    "I’m from Houston, and I’m proud of it," Youboty said. "But I’m playing for Ohio State now."

    But he still feels like a Texan, right?

    "I feel like an Ohio State Buckeye," Youboty shot back.

    Especially this week, he said, with the fourthranked Buckeyes preparing to host No. 2 Texas. But a connection to the Lone Star State will make it special because it will be a reunion of sorts for Youboty.

    One of his friends, Robert Killebrew, a former teammate at Klein High School, plays for Texas. Killebrew is the backup middle linebacker.

    The two are so close that for a couple of days this summer Youboty went to Austin, Texas, to visit Killebrew. His host showed him around and introduced him to some other Longhorns.

    "He said, ‘This is my boy from Ohio State,’ and they didn’t make a big deal of it," Youboty said. "I wasn’t up there for any drama. I just hung out with him."

    The only challenge put to him was to do battle in a college football video game, Ohio State vs. Texas. Youboty declined.

    Austin could have been his college town. He was recruited by Texas his senior season in 2002. But interest from the Longhorns never got serious, and he turned to Ohio State.

    As Youboty met the news media this week, his tie bore streaks of burnt orange.

    "No significance," he said.

    In other words, he didn’t buy it on his visit to Austin this summer, but he did take stock of the surroundings.

    "It’s a good environment, their players are really close," Youboty said. "I was in a bar with them. They were all hanging out. It’s kind of a brotherhood."

    It reminded him, he said, of Ohio State’s program.

    "Players up here, we practice together, we do everything together," Youboty said.

    It seems programs, like players, can have different names and uniforms, but football is football. That’s why, when OSU linebacker A.J. Hawk was asked where he thought Youboty was from, statehood never entered his mind.

    "I think Ashton deserves to get a lot of hype . . . because I believe Ashton is one of the best corners in the country," Hawk said. "He is a shut-down corner out there. And it makes our defense a lot easier if we can just sit Ashton out there on an island and let him do what he does.

    "Where’s he from? I don’t know, somewhere where a lot of great corners come from."
    You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."


    • #3
      Slaten was going on and on about this game yesterday saying there was no way Ohio St. would win because they have decided to use 2 QBs. I don't really care who wins this game, but now that Slaten has mouthed off, GO OHIO ST!
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      • #4
        Zwick, Smith will both play, but who will start?
        Tressel not yet ready to reveal No. 1 QB
        Wednesday, September 07, 2005
        Ken Gordon

        For eight months, Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith has been like a dog cooped up in the house, nose pressed against the screen door, watching Justin Zwick romp around the yard.

        This week, the door swung open, and Smith was finally free to bound outside.

        "It feels good to be back here," he said yesterday, grinning after practice. "Just having the jersey on again is a thrill for me. You don’t miss it until it’s gone."

        Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel said both Smith and Zwick will play Saturday against No. 2 Texas. The two will split practice snaps "fairly evenly" this week.

        Who will start, or how much each will play, Tressel would not say.

        He said only that both deserved to play — Smith for going 4-1 as a starter late in 2004 before being suspended for violating NCAA regulations, and Zwick for winning his two games as the starter since then.

        "As we stand right now, I’d say we have two starting quarterbacks," Tressel said.

        While Smith celebrated having the NCAA collar removed, Zwick understandably was less than thrilled about having to share again. Suddenly, the backyard grass didn’t look quite as green.

        "It doesn’t matter if it’s something I can live with or not," he said. "That’s why coach Tressel gets paid the big bucks."

        Tressel apparently is in no rush to determine which player deserved the job for the long term. Despite his past aversion to anything resembling a quarterback platoon system, he did not rule that out.

        "If we do well, I could be comfortable doing just about anything," he said. "If it’s the best thing for our team to play two guys at quarterback, we will. So it could go this way the whole year, it could emerge elsewhere, and that’s part of the fun of it."

        Smith and Zwick’s teammates took it in stride, probably because they are accustomed to quarterback questions.

        "It’s great for us because we have two guys who can win," safety Nate Salley said. "So you’re never really worried about, ‘Oh, I hope this guy doesn’t get hurt,’ because you know this guy can get the job done, also. That kind of gives us a little comfort zone."

        Smith was in a comfort zone yesterday. That much was obvious by his relaxed demeanor and quips.

        After acknowledging the danger that he would try too hard to play well after sitting out, he said, "Pressure busts pipes, but it can also make a diamond, too. It goes both ways."

        So is he a pipe or a diamond?

        "I’m a diamond," he said, and then he said it again.

        Smith spoke again of the suspension being a humbling experience. Maybe he has matured in a year’s time, and won’t complain about his playing time like he did last fall when Zwick clearly was the starter.

        "Being an Ohio State quarterback is a privilege that a lot of times guys take for granted until something is snatched away," he said. "Then you really understand how important it is to you."

        Zwick kept repeating his standard assertion that he does not worry about who starts.

        But some of his old touchiness returned when talking about the communication — or lack thereof — between Tressel, Zwick and Smith.

        Both quarterbacks said Tressel has not told them who will start or how the rotation will be handled. Maybe that’s because Tressel wants to see how the week of practice goes first.

        But it’s similar to last fall, when Tressel told reporters that Zwick would start the season opener before he told his players.

        "I figure I’ll find out when you guys do, so if you haven’t heard, I haven’t heard," Zwick said. "He’ll tell us when he’s good and ready."
        You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."


        • #5
          You going to the game, Nate?

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          • #6
            Being an ‘SI’ cover boy doesn’t bother Ginn
            Wednesday, September 07, 2005
            Tim May

            Ted Ginn Jr. hasn't heard about the SI cover jinx. Click to enlarge

            Ted Ginn Jr. said he knows nothing about the Sports Illustrated cover jinx, which could be to his benefit going against Texas on Saturday night because he is on the cover this week.

            The speedy Ohio State receiverreturner is pictured running with the ball, dragging a Miami University defender, with the headline: College Football’s Fast Starts: Ted Ginn Jr. has Ohio State running hard and gunning for a shootout with Texas.

            "It’s great," Ginn said yesterday while looking at a copy of the cover. "It’s a dream come true. That’s all I can really say."

            He said he had never heard that some featured athletes or teams seem to suffer bad luck soon after an SI cover appearance. Then again, soon after the last time OSU players were on the front, in November 2002, the Buckeyes won their first national championship in 34 years.

            Fellow receiver Anthony Gonzalez saw only the positive side of the Ginn cover, that it was for something the Buckeyes are doing well after the past two seasons of dealing with the Maurice Clarett affair and its national media fallout.

            "To finally have the spotlight on this team for good things again, that’s encouraging," Gonzalez said.

            "I take great pride in doing things I think are the right things, and I think our guys do, too. And it’s unfair certain people get painted with a negative brush, so to speak, when I know them as good people.

            "So it is very refreshing for me, because it kind of validates why I came here. I came here just as much for the ethics and the morals that it seems like coach (Jim) Tressel upholds as I did for the football and the academics."

            What he meant was . . .

            OSU linebacker Bobby Carpenter was not made available to the media yesterday.

            Perhaps it was because he said a mouthful on Saturday concerning Texas’ celebrated Heisman Trophy candidate, quarterback Vince Young.

            "Our goal is when Vince Young leaves here, he won’t be a candidate for the Heisman," Carpenter was quoted as saying.

            Yesterday, his linebacker teammate, Anthony Schlegel, clarified the remark. He said its genesis was former OSU defensive coordinator Mark Dantonio, now coach at Cincinnati, who had a goal for his defenders when a hotshot opposing offensive player came to town.

            "He said, ‘Don’t ever let anyone leave Ohio Stadium as the Heisman Trophy front-runner,’ " Schlegel said. "That’s what Bobby was just saying."

            It got contorted in translation, in some places to read as if Carpenter was calling out Young.

            "Now we’ve got to go out there and do it; we’ve got to walk the walk," Schlegel said. "He has talked it."

            Buckeye briefs

            Sophomore outside linebacker Marcus Freeman, Carpenter’s backup, likely will miss a couple of games because of an unspecified knee injury he suffered in the first half on Saturday. Freshman James Laurinaitis is now listed now as Carpenter’s understudy. . . . An OSU official said yesterday that $36,403.39 was raised Saturday in the relief fund drive for victims of Hurricane Katrina. He said the drive will continue through all four home games this month.
            You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."


            • #7
              Originally posted by steveInebriated@Sep 8 2005, 08:23 AM
              You going to the game, Nate?
              Undecided as of now, I have an offer of 2 tickets for $500 (which is actually pretty good)...

              Someone was supposed to sell me tickets for face value, but the $$$ popped into their eyes and I got fucked, but I got Iowa (also in the top 10) tickets as payback, so I can't complain to much.

              I've been looking at getting a price I like all week and haven't committed to anything yet. If I had to guess I'd say I'll probably be standing out there on Saturday morning/afternoon, and just say fuck it and drop the money and buy a ticket, but we'll see.

              James636 is coming up from St.Louis to go to the game, I landed him a ticket for $225
              You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."


              • #8
                Classes of ’02 out to show who is No. 1
                Texas was tops, but OSU’s recruits were ranked up there, too
                Tuesday, September 06, 2005
                Ken Gordon and Tim May

                As if the Texas-Ohio State football game needed another level of hype, it could help prove which school had the better 2002 recruiting class.

                Sure, the class Texas signed was ranked No. 1 by every major recruiting guru, but what is that really worth?

                Three years later, those signees have yet to win a Big 12 title, let alone a national championship.

                That hole on his resume dogs Longhorns coach Mack Brown, who sometimes is called "Coach February."

                "I do think the class has been wonderful in the way the players have represented the university, and the way they’ve played," Brown said. "The two things they haven’t done, and we haven’t done for them, is win the Big 12 championship and the national championship.

                "But who ever knows what a No. 1 recruiting class is? Those should be judged like a season. They should be rated after four years, after we’ve seen what they’ve done."

                Meanwhile, Ohio State inked a class rated by experts as somewhere between No. 2 and No. 4 in the nation. A good chunk of those players contributed as freshmen to the Buckeyes’ 2002 Big Ten co-championship and national championship.

                And so Saturday is a chance for Texas (1-0, ranked No. 2 in the Associated Press poll) to take a big step toward vindicating its 2002 class ranking, and for Ohio State (1-0, ranked No. 6) to show that having the top-ranked class means little.

                Exhibit A in the prosecution of recruiting gurus is Ohio State fullback A.J. Hawk.

                Wait, Hawk is not a fullback? He’s an All-American linebacker?

                Well, when he signed in 2002, some projected the Centerville product might prove to be a fullback, especially because the Buckeyes had signed other All-World linebackers such as Stan White Jr., Mike D’Andrea and Bobby Carpenter.

                Today, Hawk can look back and laugh.

                "Some people just come in under the radar," he said. "There’s so many people out there now I don’t think (recruiting experts) can get everything right. Whoever has opinions, it’s fine. If you have a computer, you’re allowed to write whatever you want."

                The consensus top individuals in those classes have taken different roads.

                For Texas, quarterback Vince Young is the biggest star to take the field Saturday, a Heisman Trophy candidate.

                OSU’s top recruit in 2002, Maurice Clarett, is unemployed, a story all to himself after playing just one year.

                Two other notable examples are Texas defensive end Brian Robison, unheralded when he signed but now a standout, and offensive lineman Derek Morris, a blue-chipper who never played for the Buckeyes.

                The inexact science of rating high-school players is a sore subject to those who make it their living.

                "I can sit here and say we try and do the best job we can," said Bobby Burton, head of the service. "But we don’t have the (scouting) budget of the Cleveland Browns, and they make mistakes, too."

                Hard feelings aside, Burton will be paying close attention Saturday. Games like this, with so many heralded high-school stars facing off, don’t happen all the time.

                Half of the projected starters Saturday (22 of 44) come from that 2002 class.

                "It’s always fun when two juggernauts face off," Burton said. "But what’s more interesting to me about this than an Ohio State-Michigan game, where all the kids were recruited by the same teams, is that in this game, there will be only a handful of kids — maybe five or 10 — who were recruited by both Ohio State and Texas.

                "So this really is the Southwest vs. the Midwest in terms of high-school talent."

                Indeed, 22 of the 27 Texas recruits in 2002 were Texans, and 18 of 25 OSU signees were native Buckeyes.

                "From afar, it appears Jim (Tressel) has done the same thing we’ve done," Brown said. "We have tapped into the traditions here, and gone after guys who have grown up in this state and want to be Texas football players, who can handle this school academically and handle Austin, who can handle the pressure of 47 media at practice every day."

                Players from the 2002 class on both teams say they feel the responsibility that came with their recruiting hype.

                "Up to this point I believe we have" lived up to expectations, All-American Texas defensive tackle Rodrique Wright said. "As a class, we had high expectations coming in. We always felt like we would get a Big 12 title and a national championship before we leave. It seems like it is coming around to that point.

                "I just feel blessed and lucky that I have another shot to go out there and try for it again."

                And even though his class owns national-title rings, OSU defensive tackle Quinn Pitcock — who redshirted that season — said the fourth-year Buckeyes aren’t satisfied with that.

                "The hype of our class personally I think is kind of gone," he said. "Most of us didn’t play in 2002, so we need to stop living off that year. Now it’s our chance."
                You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."


                • #9
                  Tressel knows a coach must keep certain things secret
                  Wednesday, September 07, 2005

                  To tell or not to tell. It’s not much of a question, really.

                  Heck, Ohio State coach Jim Tressel doesn’t mind telling the world which quarterback he plans to play this week against Texas. Not at all.

                  "We’ll play both Justin (Zwick) and Troy (Smith)," Tressel said at his weekly press luncheon yesterday.

                  Great, that sure clears that up . . . uh, wait a minute.

                  "Exactly who will play when," he said, "obviously we’re not going to outline for you today."

                  Oh. In other words, he’s not telling, which he will be happy to explain in about a thousand words or so. I’ll spare you the unpleasant smoke screen. If City Council saw how thick this cloud was, Tressel would be banned along with cigarettes from the city’s restaurants and bars.

                  But to summarize his thoughts, both Zwick and Smith deserve to play and he plans to use both, even if the starter, whoever that is, comes out leading the offense like Joe Montana or John Elway.

                  At least Tressel thinks he will. After saying that, he offered a detailed explanation about how that can change depending upon the circumstances in the game, which only served to further muddy waters that were already the color of those burnt orange Texas jerseys. In fact, if old Mr. Fog could have worked third-string quarterback Todd Boeckman, Hurricane Katrina, these "two great research universities" and a couple of pregnant porpoises in there somewhere, he doubtless would have done it, because this is the one little seed of doubt he can plant in the Longhorns’ minds before Saturday.

                  Truthfully, it’s probably not much.

                  "What’s good about it is they’re different types of quarterbacks," OSU linebacker A.J. Hawk said. "Justin’s a drop-back passer, and Troy can be a dropback passer, but he can also run very well. It might throw them off a little bit, but I’m sure they’ll be ready."

                  Surely, they will. Texas didn’t get to No. 2 in the country by being befuddled by a problem as simple as a depth-chart mystery or a quarterback platoon, and Tressel himself admits as much. But he wouldn’t be much of an Ohio State football coach if he didn’t at least try to keep a secret like this before one of the biggest games in years. That’s what OSU football coaches have always done.

                  Well, except once. In 1977, the Buckeyes were about to play host to a game that was almost a nonconference duplicate of this one — Oklahoma — and the king of concealment, Woody Hayes, came to his weekly press luncheon and announced that he was moving All-American safety Ray Griffin to tailback.

                  If that wasn’t the day the earth stood still, the announcement at least started a round of stories the likes of which have never been seen in these parts. Most asked why in the name of Francis Schmidt a guy who sometimes saw football spies in the windows of the nearby Fawcett Center would come right out and tell reporters something like that before the biggest nonconference game in 40 years. And even more to the point, why would he offer that kind of classified, top-secret info without anyone even asking?

                  After a day or so, most reporters concluded that this was indeed a stroke of genius, that Woody would never tell anyone he was moving an All-American safety to tailback if he really planned to do it.

                  No, this was just a clever ploy to throw off the Sooners’ preparation. When game time arrived, Griffin would surely be over there on defense, giving Oklahoma fits. And those banged-up OSU tailbacks who had created this sorry mess, Jeff Logan and Ricky Johnson, would be dancing around Oklahoma defenders like Michael Jackson and Fred Astaire.

                  Except, when game time arrived, Griffin was at tailback, just as Hayes had said. Now it made you wonder if he hadn’t announced the move because he knew nobody would believe him, and hence, would really throw the Sooners off.

                  Except they weren’t. Griffin gained only 16 yards on seven carries and the Buckeyes lost 29-28 when Uwe von Schamann kicked a 41-yard field goal with three seconds left.

                  In his private moments, Woody must have known why his team had lost: There had been a security breach at the top.

                  It was probably the last time he ever told those damned fool reporters anything.
                  You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nasty Nate@Sep 8 2005, 09:14 AM
                    a night game at Ohio Stadium is a sight to see.
                    ...and if you're wearing the other team's colors, I suggest wearing armor or something. Full beer cans hurt. So do bottles.


                    • #11
                      Texas' kicker sucks cock
                      In a 60-3 opening victory, though, the Longhorns' extra points were far from guaranteed
                      By Suzanne Halliburton
                      Austin Statesman

                      Thursday, September 08, 2005

                      Texas had just scored its first touchdown of the season Saturday evening. Richmond McGee trotted onto the field for what normally would be the most perfunctory of special teams tasks.

                      As McGee awaited the snap and hold — and what would be his first career extra point — he made the mistake of glancing up to check out the space between the uprights one final time. He saw the Jumbotron. He saw his bigger-than-life face mirrored back at him.

                      Wide right.

                      McGee had two more extra points blocked before halftime. One came because he kicked the ball too low. The other resulted from a breakdown on the edge of the line, which allowed a Louisiana-Lafayette player to get a swipe at the ball.

                      No one gets too mad at the kicker when the team wins by 57 points, but earlier this week in practice, more than 100 Longhorns circled McGee at Denius Fields. As he kicked extra points, they jumped and yelled and waved their arms, trying to give their teammate some idea of what Ohio Stadium will sound like Saturday night.

                      Oddsmakers have established fourth-ranked Ohio State as a one-point favorite over No. 2 Texas. Think extra points will be important? Think McGee, and not Vince Young or Ted Ginn Jr., might play the most important role in determining which team continues its national championship campaign? The last time the Longhorns played a Big Ten opponent in a nationally televised game, a field goal kicker in burnt orange was the most celebrated player on the field by game's end.

                      McGee, the only kicker/punter in the Big 12 Conference, inherited the job Rose Bowl hero Dusty Mangum vacated after four years. He was booed by some fans at Royal-Memorial Stadium on Saturday because of the three misses. And Texas coach Mack Brown has talked this week about how he also may use David Pino against the Buckeyes on Saturday night.

                      But it's not bothering McGee, the lanky 6-foot-4-inch senior who looks more like a beach volleyball star than he does a kicker.

                      "If I don't do well, I fully expect for them to put Pino on the field," McGee said. "Whatever's best for the team."

                      Pino was the leading candidate to replace Mangum, a four-year starter, until he pulled a muscle in August drills. That left McGee, who battled back pain late last year that sliced several yards off his kickoffs, with all three duties.

                      Until recently, Brown never has hit the recruiting trails hard looking for a scholarship punter or kicker. Players at these positions rarely are ranked on anyone's top-50 list of the best high school prospects in a state. Instead, Brown's kickers have been walk-ons, guys like McGee or Mangum whose families could afford tuition. Brown would then honor them with a scholarship before their senior seasons.

                      Kris Stockton, who was an all-Big 12 Conference second-teamer in 2000, was the last true scholarship kicker on the Texas roster, and he was signed by former Coach John Mackovic in 1996. Stockton also was the last Longhorn to punt and place-kick. He played for Brown from 1998-2000, and his last-second kicks won games against Texas A&M in 1998 and Iowa State in 1999.

                      Brown recently put McGee and Pino on scholarship. Punter Greg Johnson also is getting his schooling paid for after transferring from Vanderbilt a year ago.

                      Recently, Brown signed the athletic Trevor Gerland, a track star from Katy, to be his punter for the future. And he has a commitment from Boerne's Hunter Lawrence, who is considered the second-best kicker nationally by, but because of his position, is only the 85th best overall player in the state.

                      Games have rarely come down to white-knuckled field-goal kicks during Brown's previous seven seasons at Texas. Mangum notched two game winners — the Rose Bowl kick and a 27-yarder to win the Kansas State game in 2002. Stockton had his two.

                      In the meantime, the Texas offense is taking risks to score more touchdowns as opposed to settling for field goals. Offensive coordinator Greg Davis said the Longhorns scored 80 percent of the time when they got within the opponent's 20-yard line a year ago. Of those scores, 67 percent were touchdowns.

                      Davis said if the game is expected to be high scoring, then the risks increase. "If it's Texas Tech, field position doesn't matter and you're much more aggressive on fourth down," he said.

                      The guy who kicks the field goals also factors into the equation. "That has to figure in — the consistency of that guy," Davis said.

                      As for McGee, he spent this week practicing extra points the way a basketball player would free throws. He tried 100 and made 100. The guys screamed. "I knocked 'em through," he said. His height, which is an advantage for a punter seeking better leverage for a more powerful lift, has forced him to take different angles when he kicks field goals.

                      He wanted to practice his long-range kicks, but thought, "If I can't hit an extra point, why would Coach Brown put me out there for the 68-yarders?"

                      And like any good field goal kicker, he has his kicking rituals as he approaches the ball. He mutters the last part of Proverbs 28:1 as he breaks the huddle.

                      "The righteous are bold as a lion."
                      You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."


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                        Originally posted by backstop+Sep 8 2005, 08:45 AM-->
                        QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 8 2005, 08:45 AM)

                      • #13
                        Texas DB jabs at Ginn, Holmes
                        By Doug Harris
                        Dayton Daily News
                        Thursday, September 08, 2005
                        COLUMBUS — Texas players are showing they're just as good at talkin' smack as Ohio State's Bobby Carpenter.

                        While Ted Ginn Jr. and Santonio Holmes are considered perhaps the best receiving tandem in the nation, Longhorns cornerback Cedric Griffin hasn't been all that impressed.

                        "I've played against guys who are better than them," Griffin said. "Santonio Holmes can beat you with his route running. But I haven't seen Ginn do any kind of route running."

                        Griffin added: "I don't think their athletes beat our athletes at all. It's dead even. If anything, I think we have the edge because I believe in our athletes."

                        But Texas coach Mack Brown knows Ginn and Holmes are capable of inflicting much damage.

                        "They're two guys who have a chance to score every time they touch it, whether it's in the kicking game or on offense," he said. "With their spread system right now, they have the ability to get it to either one of them on every play. They just scare you to death with their ability to get the big play."

                        Defense lets loose

                        First-year defensive coordinator Jim Heacock called for repeated blitzes against Miami, and his aggressive style was a hit with OSU players.

                        Of the five sacks they registered against the RedHawks, only one was recorded by a defensive lineman. And their new approach has left Texas puzzled.

                        "We're not sure whether they blitzed so much because they felt like they could get to Miami or whether they are just taking a different attitude and blitzing more this year than they have in the past," Brown said. "We will have to prepare for a lot of blitzing this weekend and understand that's part of who they are."

                        But linebacker A.J. Hawk knows the tactic could backfire against a seasoned quarterback like Vince Young.

                        "Coach Heacock has the philosophy that you have to affect the quarterback," Hawk said. "But we also know we can't blitz every play. Sometimes you've got to play your base defense and execute."

                        Squib kicks

                        • Ginn on making the Sports Illustrated cover this week: "It's great. That's all I can say. It's a dream come true."

                        • The Buckeyes haven't lost to a Big 12 school since a 29-28 decision against No. 3 Oklahoma in 1977, and their all-time record against the conference is 27-3-1.

                        • The Longhorns registered three sacks in their 60-3 win over Louisiana-Lafayette on Saturday. They needed seven games to reach that total in 2004.
                        You're being fucking dramatic. You own a TV and an air mattress. That's not exactly what I'd call "a lot to lose."


                        • #14
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                          QUOTE(Nasty Nate @ Sep 8 2005, 09:50 AM)
                          Originally posted by backstop@Sep 8 2005, 08:45 AM

                        • #15
                          Originally posted by backstop+Sep 8 2005, 08:59 AM-->
                          QUOTE(backstop @ Sep 8 2005, 08:59 AM)
                          Originally posted by Nasty Nate@Sep 8 2005, 09:50 AM
                          Originally posted by backstop@Sep 8 2005, 08:45 AM