Cards may have MVP and Cy winner

[dv6y]

The last teams to do that:

NL: 1991 Atlanta Braves
Who: Glavine and Pendleton
Notes: Lost in G7 of World Series 1-0 in 10 to Minnesota.

AL: 2002 Oakland Athletics
Who: Zito and Tejada
Notes: Lost to Minnesota in Division Series in 5 (Mulder pitched well in the loss)

[Moon Man]

Neither team won the World Series. Ergo, Pujols should continue his slide and Peter Gammons needs to STFU about voting for Carp as Cy Young. In only this manner will victory be assured.

Moon

[dv6y]

TLR is doing his part by batting Taguchi etc behind Albert.

[slow groove]

Originally posted by dvyyyyyy@Aug 30 2005, 06:49 AM
The last teams to do that:

NL: 1991 Atlanta Braves
Who: Glavine and Pendleton
Notes: Lost in G7 of World Series 1-0 in 10 to Minnesota.

AL: 2002 Oakland Athletics
Who: Zito and Tejada
Notes: Lost to Minnesota in Division Series in 5 (Mulder pitched well in the loss)

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Ahhh, 1991...the year the league saw fit to throw Pendleton a bone and award him the MVP when Bonds clearly deserved it more.

Won't happen this year for the Cards personnel, however. Carp will land the honors, but, unfortunately, I don't believe Pujols will receive the MVP. I also think TLR is overwhelmingly most deserving of Manager of the Year, but believe Cox will nab his second straight for his job guiding Atlanta.

Hope I'm wrong though.

[maxpower]

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Ahhh, 1991...the year the league saw fit to throw Pendleton a bone and award him the MVP when Bonds clearly deserved it more.

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I don't know about clearly, Pendleton had a career year while playing for a Braves team that went from worst in 1990 to first in 1991 beating out a good Dodger team by one game. Bonds had a great year also but his stats "fell off" from the year before in just about every major offensive category except OBP (which only increased slightly) and he played on a team that won the division by 14 games.

Anyway, agree with your other points about Carp winning the Cy and Albert and Tony getting shut out. I'm guessing Jones is the mvp and Cox will most likely get the manager of the year award.

[sketch]

If Carpenter ends up with ~23 victories (the paper indicated that he is not getting any time off in Sept, so certainly possible), they will be hard pressed not to vote for him. Though the urge of middle aged guys to vote for another middle aged guy with all that history will be very powerful.

Besides having another stellar year with the game's best team, Pujols will get some extra push for his body of work (much like a Clemens). There was some talk that what D Lee or A Jones is doing is more impressive because they are on lesser teams, but if voters look at Pujols stats vs the rest of his individual teamates, it is cut and dry. No matter is he 'slumps' to .320 or not.

If both of them getting robbed on the award voting, guarantees a WS victory for us; steal away