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    New study says homeopathic medicines don't work

    By Jeremy Lovell

    LONDON (Reuters) - The world may be beating a path to the doors of homeopathic practitioners as an alternative to conventional medicines, but according to a new study they may just as well be taking nothing.

    The study, published in Friday's edition of the respected Lancet medical journal, is likely to anger the growing numbers of devoted practitioners of and adherents to alternative therapies that include homeopathy.

    "There was weak evidence for a specific effect of homeopathic remedies, but strong evidence for specific effects of conventional interventions," the study concluded.

    "This finding is compatible with the notion that the clinical effects of homeopathy are placebo effects," it added after examining findings from 110 homeopathy trials and an equal number of conventional medical trials.

    In an editorial, the Lancet urged doctors to tell their patients they were wasting their time taking homeopathic medicines -- but also to make more time to connect with the patients rather than just prescribing and forgetting.

    "Now doctors need to be bold and honest with their patients about homeopathy's lack of benefits, and with themselves about the failings of modern medicine to address patients' needs for personalised care," the journal said.

    Entitled "The end of homeopathy", the editorial queried how homeopathy was growing in popularity by leaps and bounds when for the past 150 years trials had found it ineffective.

    "It is the attitudes of patients and providers that engender alternative-therapy seeking behaviours which create a greater threat to conventional care -- and patients' welfare -- than do spurious arguments of putative benefits from absurd dilutions," it said.

    BOOMING SALES

    Practitioners of homeopathic medicine, invented in the late 1700s by German physician Samuel Hahnemann, believe that the weaker the solution, the more effective the medicine.

    In Britain alone, sales of homeopathic medicines have grown by a third in the past five years to 32 million pounds in 2004.

    The study's lead author and statistical analyst Matthias Egger of Switzerland's University of Berne, said once data from small, less rigorous trials was extracted and evident bias in both taken into account, the conclusions were inescapable.

    "We acknowledge that to prove a negative is impossible, but we have shown that the effects seen in placebo-controlled trials of homeopathy are compatible with the placebo-hypothesis," he wrote.

    But the British Homeopathic Association (BHA), which says it has 1,000 doctors on its books, strongly disagreed.

    "The report should be treated with extreme caution. It is being heavily spun," Peter Fisher, clinical director at the Royal London Homeopathic Hospital, said on behalf of the BHA.

    "For a prestigious medical journal it is a strange bit of reporting. It is a small sample and they don't even tell you what they are basing this on. Yet they come to these very sweeping conclusions and write this very strongly worded editorial," he told Reuters.

    "Homeopathy has been suffering these types of attacks for 200 years but it goes from strength to strength because people want it and many studies prove it works."


  • #2
    P.T. Barnum was right. There's a sucker born every minute.

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    • #3
      Sorry DaLode but natural medicines have worked for me 4 times. There are good natural cures for things, but the FTC and FDA are in the pockets of the pharmises. The have even used Gestapo tactics. Coming into plants and warehouses in the US with automatic weapons showing. That isn't right. The current establishment does not want to see "anything" cured. They want you to take their pills for the rest of your life. It's all about profits man.
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      • #4
        I didn't realize the FDA had power in the UK.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ksbluesfan@Aug 26 2005, 06:02 AM
          I didn't realize the FDA had power in the UK.

          Excuse me? I was referring to what happened in the US and not the article. Pay attention please..
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Vasego@Aug 26 2005, 07:00 AM
            Sorry DaLode but natural medicines have worked for me 4 times. There are good natural cures for things, but the FTC and FDA are in the pockets of the pharmises. The have even used Gestapo tactics. Coming into plants and warehouses in the US with automatic weapons showing. That isn't right. The current establishment does not want to see "anything" cured. They want you to take their pills for the rest of your life. It's all about profits man.
            +++

            I watched them heal my wife before she was my wife. That alone opened my eyes to a whole lot of things. I've taken them and seen the effects. Both my girls take them when they are sick and they do wonders.

            Meanwhile, my 4 year old nephew has had a skin rash problem since birth, probably caused by vaccinations. What do the medical doctors do? They prescribe him a steriod

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Vasego+Aug 26 2005, 07:04 AM-->
              QUOTE(Vasego @ Aug 26 2005, 07:04 AM)

            • #8
              Originally posted by ksbluesfan+Aug 26 2005, 06:07 AM-->
              QUOTE(ksbluesfan @ Aug 26 2005, 06:07 AM)
              Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 07:04 AM

            • #9
              Originally posted by Vasego+Aug 26 2005, 07:18 AM-->
              QUOTE(Vasego @ Aug 26 2005, 07:18 AM)
              Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 06:07 AM
              Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 07:04 AM

            • #10
              Originally posted by ksbluesfan+Aug 26 2005, 06:25 AM-->
              QUOTE(ksbluesfan @ Aug 26 2005, 06:25 AM)
              Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 07:18 AM
              Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 06:07 AM
              Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 07:04 AM

            • #11
              Originally posted by Vasego@Aug 26 2005, 07:32 AM
              They probably would. No, I know they would if it conflicted with the drug companies. God forbid if someone was actually cured. lol You must be in the medical establishment. Take the purple pill for the rest of your life. Or take statin's, and cholesteral will not kill you. but liver damage will. Hmmm.
              What happened to smallpox? That should have been a heck of a money maker. They're missing the boat on polio and guinea-worm disease too.

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              • #12
                Originally posted by ksbluesfan+Aug 26 2005, 06:50 AM-->
                QUOTE(ksbluesfan @ Aug 26 2005, 06:50 AM)

              • #13
                Originally posted by ksbluesfan+Aug 26 2005, 08:07 AM-->
                QUOTE(ksbluesfan @ Aug 26 2005, 08:07 AM)
                Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 07:04 AM

              • #14
                Originally posted by Vasego@Aug 26 2005, 07:57 AM

                Ok. I will give you that.

                What about HIV? Staph infections and etc? Not to mention cancer, diabetes on the serious side. Acid reflux, the purple pill, when it is most likely an infection in the stomach?

                The small pox vaccine is also under investigation for mercury among other things. It may have prevented a disease but.. Not saying that is bad though. I assume you take antibiotics for a cold or flu? Just curious.
                Smallpox wasn't eradicated overnight. It will take time to cure HIV, cancer, etc.

                Staph infections and all bacteria infections are cured by antibiotics. People commonly died before penicillin was developed in the 1940s. I don't take antibiotics for viral infections. It would be hard to find a doctor who would prescribe an antibiotic for the flu or a cold.

                Every time you go to the doctor's office, do you get a prescription? Don't they recommend other treatments such as a change in diet or excercise?

                But here's the thing - medical science has provided cures for diseases and helped people to live longer, happier lives. Alternative medicines have provided fat wallets for the grifters who sell them, and nothing more.

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                • #15
                  Originally posted by ksbluesfan@Aug 26 2005, 08:28 AM
                  But here's the thing - medical science has provided cures for diseases and helped people to live longer, happier lives.  Alternative medicines have provided fat wallets for the grifters who sell them, and nothing more.
                  I have a big time problem with this statement. Do you know that the medical doctors were going to open my wife up and do exploratory surgery on her because they couldn't find what was "wrong" with her? We took her to see an "alternative" doctor and right away he found the problem. My wife was in pretty bad shape. Her hair was falling out, her fingernails were as hard as nails, she couldn't eat, spent an entire summer in bed, constantly ran over 100 degree fevers, was in pain, never had regular cycles, you name it, she had it. Everyone around her was basically planning her funeral. Now she is happy and healthy, all because these witch doctors that practice homeopathy are "a joke."

                  Call (614) 337-1904 and ask for Dr. Roger Lyss. You'll likely have to leave your number as he is usually booked all day long, but he will return your call. Ask him any question you might have. I promise you, you won't think the same way when you hang up the phone.

                  Edit: Let me also add, the MD's gave my grandpa 6 months to live back in 2000 and wouldn't do a thing for him. He seeked alternative help, namely chelation, and is still here to this day. My wife's grandpa completely lost his vision in one eye. Homeopathy brought it back. I have tons of stories.

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