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    This takes some balls. Leave our land but please take care of our health and employment needs.

    Palestinians fear Gaza health crisis after Israeli pullout 2 hours, 9 minutes ago

    GAZA CITY (AFP) - Palestinian medical experts fear a looming health crisis after    Israel's pullout from the    Gaza Strip unless patients are guaranteed access to life-saving treatment beyond the territory.

    While Israel regards its departure from Gaza as signalling the end of its 38-year occupation, the Palestinians argue that Israel will remain an occupying power as long as it retains control of its borders and is thus still obliged to meet the health needs of the local population.

    "I fear a worsening of the health situation after the withdrawal from Gaza as a result of the Israeli cordon," said Dr Majdi Ashur, president of the Palestinian relief committees.

    "Israel is refusing to recognise its obligations as a continuing occupation power by meeting basic health needs of the population and we do not foresee a resumption of proper freedom of movement in the short term," he told AFP.

    More than 10,000 patients are transferred each year out of Gaza to Egypt, Jordan and the    West Bank to receive treatment, said Ashur.

    Hundreds of those who are treated outside the territory are suffering from chronic or life-threatening illnesses such as cancer, he added.

    Israel, Egypt and the Palestinians have been locked in talks for months about the future of the Rafah border crossing between Egypt and Gaza that has been frequently closed by Israel for security reasons over the years.

    Although Israel is set to hand over border control to Egypt, Ashur said it would do little to ease the problems as the traditional main source of health care for Palestinians was in the West Bank.

    While there are also ongoing negotiations about a so-called "safe passage" between Gaza and the West Bank, no agreements have yet been reached.

    "Our overall health plan links us to the West Bank where the two main hospitals are based," said Ashur.

    Mona al-Farra, head of the Palestinian Red Crescent in Gaza, said "dozens of patients currently need x-rays, chemotherapy or surgery in areas such as cardiology, neurology or eye surgery".

    "There is no agreement with Israel which allows for the transfer of these patients and Israel is refusing to receive certain patients whom it regards as representing a security danger."

    Israel has been increasingly reluctant to allow Palestinians to be treated inside its borders since an incident in June when a young woman from Gaza who was receiving treatment for burns was stopped with explosives at the Erez terminal crossing.

    A source in the Israeli health ministry, however, said there would be no immediate change to the procedures after the pullout of soldiers is completed next month.

    "As in the past when Palestinians were able turn to the civil administration for medical treatment, they will still be able to do this. Nothing is going to change," she told AFP.

    Even if Rafah were to reopen, patients would still have a 500 kilometre (310-mile) journey overland to Cairo, a procedure which is not regarded as a viable alternative for emergency cases.

    In the past, emergency patients have been admitted to hospitals in the Israeli coastal cities of Ashkelon or Tel Aviv or in Jerusalem, he added.

    The departure of Israeli settlers, soon to be followed out of the territory by the last of the soldiers, should make circulation throughout considerably easier.

    But the facilities at the around a dozen hospitals in the territory are sometimes little more than basic.

    A recent report by Physicians for Human Rights said that up to 2.5 billion dollars needs to be pumped into the Gaza Strip's health sector over the next 10 years.

    The level of infant mortality rates stands at a level of 24 per thousand while there is not even single heart scanner for the territory's 1.3 million inhabitants.

    The number of doctors in Gaza has fallen by 13 percent between 1998 and 2004, said Aid Yaghi, head of the Gaza branch of the Palestinian relief committees.
    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...lloutgazahealth
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    • #3
      Maybe they should have thought about that before they told the Israeli's to leave.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lois Lane@Aug 25 2005, 12:43 PM
        Maybe they should have thought about that before they told the Israeli's to leave.
        I'm thinking if it was a choice between being controlled by the Israeli's or not having a plan to develop their own healthcare system, they'd vote for the latter 10 out of 10 times.

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        • #5
          A gradual transition to autonomy for Gaza (and the West Bank) which still is not an independent territory happens to be in Israel's long term best interests as well. Cutting the Palestinians loose after 38 years of occupation is not smart.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Moon Man@Aug 25 2005, 11:13 AM
            A gradual transition to autonomy for Gaza (and the West Bank) which still is not an independent territory happens to be in Israel's long term best interests as well. Cutting the Palestinians loose after 38 years of occupation is not smart.

            Moon

            so be it, but the blatant hypocrisy as relayed by Madji is abit laughable.
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            • #7
              How is it hypocrisy. All these guys want is a chance to get medical treatment in the West Bank. Gaza is still just one big internment camp. All they want is free access to their medical facilities. Oh no but their is a threat of terrorism. Are the Israelis locking down Jewish terrorists who have struck recently I think not.

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              • #8
                The issue is that the Israelis still control Gaza Palestinians' access to Palestinian health care providers in the West Bank. Objecting to this is hardly extremist - despite the fact that they could solve their own problems by organizing a half-way competant civil structure.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Infidel@Aug 25 2005, 02:48 PM
                  The issue is that the Israelis still control Gaza Palestinians' access to Palestinian health care providers in the West Bank. Objecting to this is hardly extremist - despite the fact that they could solve their own problems by organizing a half-way competant civil structure.
                  Where and by whom were the Gaza Palestinian's getting their health care prior to the pullout?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FAR52+Aug 25 2005, 02:52 PM-->
                    QUOTE(FAR52 @ Aug 25 2005, 02:52 PM)

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                    Originally posted by thetorch+Aug 25 2005, 03:16 PM-->
                    QUOTE(thetorch @ Aug 25 2005, 03:16 PM)
                    Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 02:52 PM

                  • #12
                    Originally posted by FAR52+Aug 25 2005, 03:30 PM-->
                    QUOTE(FAR52 @ Aug 25 2005, 03:30 PM)
                    Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 03:16 PM
                    Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 02:52 PM

                  • #13
                    Originally posted by Moon Man+Aug 25 2005, 03:34 PM-->
                    QUOTE(Moon Man @ Aug 25 2005, 03:34 PM)
                    Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 03:30 PM
                    Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 03:16 PM
                    Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 02:52 PM

                  • #14
                    Then what's wrong with their own hospitals in Gaza? They wanted the land so damn badly -- they got it. Now live with it.
                    Reminds me of that book about raising teenagers. Can't remember the exact title, but it's something along the lines of "Get the Hell Out of My Life, But First Drop Me and Shelly Off at the Mall."

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                    • #15
                      A gradual transition to autonomy for Gaza (and the West Bank) which still is not an independent territory happens to be in Israel's long term best interests as well. Cutting the Palestinians loose after 38 years of occupation is not smart.
                      Given the history of Palestinian/Israeli relations and negotiations, I'm not at all sure why you think this would be even remotely possible. Is Israel was willing to move, do it within the hour before they change their minds or someone sets off a bomb. The details are just going to have to take care of themselves.

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