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  • Gammons: An August Ritual


    Simply an August ritual

    By Peter Gammons
    Special to ESPN.com


    Aug. 16

    Yes, Ken Griffey Jr. cleared waivers. Sammy Sosa and Mike Sweeney did, as well.

    But, understand, Reds CEO John Allen is right: As of Monday, nearly 350 players had cleared waivers in the August claiming period, 105 had not, and there are still hundreds to hit the waiver wire, including the entire Devil Rays roster.

    Some claims -- all of which subsequently were withdrawn -- are no-brainers, such as the ones for Mark Teixeira, Jeff Francoeur, Vernon Wells, Ryan Howard, Khalil Greene, Vladimir Guerrero, Ervin Santana, Ben Sheets, Jose Reyes, David Wright, Mark Prior, Carlos Zambrano, Adam Dunn, Austin Kearns, C.C. Sabathia and Cliff Lee. Even Roger Clemens. They weren't going to be traded, anyway, but there are such things as no-harm claims.

    Hundreds of other players who never would be traded cleared waivers, such as Hank Blalock, Michael Young, Russ Adams, Aaron Hill, Brandon Webb, Tim Hudson, Andruw and Chipper Jones, Matt Clement, Johnny Damon, Curt Schilling, Jason Varitek, David Wells, Bobby Abreu, Chase Utley, Garret Anderson, Darin Erstad, Francisco Rodriguez, Scot Shields, Rickie Weeks, Carlos Beltran, Pedro Martinez, Jon Garland, Mark Buehrle, Freddy Garcia and Scott Podsednik. Waivers or no waivers, as Bob Dylan would say, they ain't goin' nowhere.

    Some players never get put on waivers, and as of the last couple of days, no, Manny Ramirez had not gone on. Neither have any of the Marlins' Great Three of Miguel Cabrera, Josh Beckett and A.J. Burnett, nor Nomar Garciaparra, Kerry Wood, most of the Athletics and Yankees, Jeff Weaver, Kip Wells, Jason Schmidt, Scott Eyre, Rafael Palmeiro, Alfonso Soriano ...

    To understand the way the claiming goes, here are some examples of players who were claimed -- and withdrawn:

    Starting pitchers: Clemens, Rodrigo Lopez, Glendon Rusch, Orlando Hernandez, Bronson Arroyo, Aaron Harang, Andy Pettitte, Doug Davis, Kyle Lohse, Vicente Padilla Brett Tomko, Jamie Moyer, Gil Meche, Josh Towers and Jeff Suppan.

    Relief pitchers: Jose Valverde, Jorge Sosa, Jorge Julio, B.J. Ryan, Mike Myers, Cliff Politte, Damaso Marte, Kent Mercker, David Weathers, Sunny Kim, Ron Villone, Dan Wheeler, Jeremy Affeldt, Mike MacDougal, Brendan Donnelly, Yhency Brazoban, Chris Hammond, Akinori Otsuka, John Grabow, Matt Wise, J.C. Romero, Ryan Madson, Billy Wagner, Ugueth Urbina, Brian Shouse, Miguel Batista, Eddie Guardado, Julio Mateo and J.J. Putz.

    Position players: Tony Clark, Conor Jackson, Wilson Betemit, Jay Gibbons, Bill Mueller, Kevin Youkilis, Corey Patterson, Rob Mackowiak, Dunn, Kearns, Jeff DaVanon, Russell Branyan, Kaz Matsui, Kenny Lofton and Shea Hillenbrand.

    Utilitymen: Olmedo Saenz, Neifi Perez, Ryan Freel, Lenny Harris, Chris Woodward, Marlon Anderson, Mark Sweeney and Pete Orr.

    Catchers: Matt Treanor, Josh Paul and Mike Redmond.

    But there are still some interesting, possibly tradable names that did make it through, although Allen and Reds owner Carl Lindner might have no interest in moving Griffey or Sean Casey even though they cleared.
    How about relievers? Steve Kline got through, so did Ryan Vogelsong, Jason Christiansen, Scott Schoeneweis, Justin Speier, LaTroy Hawkins, Duaner Sanchez, Ramon Ortiz and Braden Looper, who are all on teams that might consider selling.

    And starters? Josh Fogg, Odalis Perez, Derek Lowe, Tom Glavine, Joe Mays, Tomo Ohka, Jose Lima, Bruce Chen and Joel Pineiro. Now, obviously Glavine, Lowe, Perez and Mays have contract issues, but they are experienced major-league starters, and when the Mets get Steve Trachsel back, they will have six starters and might look to see whether there is a taker for Trachsel or Glavine.

    Mike Piazza cleared, as did Griffey and Sweeney. Frank Catalanotto, Dustan Mohr, Todd Hollandsworth, Todd Walker and Edgardo Alfonzo are players who could be interesting pickups for the stretch drive, as well.

    Only Allen, Reds general manager Dan O'Brien, White Sox GM Ken Williams and White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf know the odds of Griffey ending up in Chicago. We don't have Angels GM Bill Stoneman's phone records to know how many times he has talked to Royals general manager Allard Baird about acquiring Sweeney. What we do know is that there are 350-something other players who cleared waivers, as well.

    It just happens every August.

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  • #2
    What is the last day we can pick up somebody and still use them in the playoffs?
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    • #3
      Hundreds of other players who never would be traded cleared waivers, such as Hank Blalock, Michael Young, Russ Adams, Aaron Hill, Brandon Webb, Tim Hudson, Andruw and Chipper Jones, Matt Clement, Johnny Damon, Curt Schilling, Jason Varitek, David Wells, Bobby Abreu, Chase Utley, Garret Anderson, Darin Erstad, Francisco Rodriguez, Scot Shields, Rickie Weeks, Carlos Beltran, Pedro Martinez, Jon Garland, Mark Buehrle, Freddy Garcia and Scott Podsednik. Waivers or no waivers, as Bob Dylan would say, they ain't goin' nowhere.
      I wish Peter had made it clear why players who never would be traded would be put on waivers in the first place.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by lasvegasreb@Aug 17 2005, 11:54 AM
        Hundreds of other players who never would be traded cleared waivers, such as Hank Blalock, Michael Young, Russ Adams, Aaron Hill, Brandon Webb, Tim Hudson, Andruw and Chipper Jones, Matt Clement, Johnny Damon, Curt Schilling, Jason Varitek, David Wells, Bobby Abreu, Chase Utley, Garret Anderson, Darin Erstad, Francisco Rodriguez, Scot Shields, Rickie Weeks, Carlos Beltran, Pedro Martinez, Jon Garland, Mark Buehrle, Freddy Garcia and Scott Podsednik. Waivers or no waivers, as Bob Dylan would say, they ain't goin' nowhere.
        I wish Peter had made it clear why players who never would be traded would be put on waivers in the first place.
        My thoughts exactly. I feel stupid.
        Of course you do.

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        • #5
          I think Dustan Mohr would be an interesting guy.


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          • #6
            Originally posted by kennyboyerfan@Aug 17 2005, 12:52 PM
            What is the last day we can pick up somebody and still use them in the playoffs?
            Aug. 31, I think.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by backstop+Aug 17 2005, 02:03 PM-->
              QUOTE(backstop @ Aug 17 2005, 02:03 PM)

            • #8
              Originally posted by lasvegasreb@Aug 17 2005, 12:54 PM
              Hundreds of other players who never would be traded cleared waivers, such as Hank Blalock, Michael Young, Russ Adams, Aaron Hill, Brandon Webb, Tim Hudson, Andruw and Chipper Jones, Matt Clement, Johnny Damon, Curt Schilling, Jason Varitek, David Wells, Bobby Abreu, Chase Utley, Garret Anderson, Darin Erstad, Francisco Rodriguez, Scot Shields, Rickie Weeks, Carlos Beltran, Pedro Martinez, Jon Garland, Mark Buehrle, Freddy Garcia and Scott Podsednik. Waivers or no waivers, as Bob Dylan would say, they ain't goin' nowhere.
              I wish Peter had made it clear why players who never would be traded would be put on waivers in the first place.

              The only thing I can think of is to flood the market with names...in hopes of sneaking someone through.
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              • #9
                Originally posted by lasvegasreb@Aug 17 2005, 11:54 AM
                Hundreds of other players who never would be traded cleared waivers, such as Hank Blalock, Michael Young, Russ Adams, Aaron Hill, Brandon Webb, Tim Hudson, Andruw and Chipper Jones, Matt Clement, Johnny Damon, Curt Schilling, Jason Varitek, David Wells, Bobby Abreu, Chase Utley, Garret Anderson, Darin Erstad, Francisco Rodriguez, Scot Shields, Rickie Weeks, Carlos Beltran, Pedro Martinez, Jon Garland, Mark Buehrle, Freddy Garcia and Scott Podsednik. Waivers or no waivers, as Bob Dylan would say, they ain't goin' nowhere.
                I wish Peter had made it clear why players who never would be traded would be put on waivers in the first place.
                I guess because there's no harm in waiving them just to see if they make it through, and then if something too good to ignore came along, you could still deal them.

                If you don't waive them, you can't trade them. I would agree that those guys likely won't be traded, but waiving them does give you some flexibility should someone come along with a knock your socks off offer.
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                • #10
                  Originally posted by *007*@Aug 17 2005, 11:46 AM
                   
                  How about relievers? Steve Kline got through, so did Ryan Vogelsong, Jason Christiansen, Scott Schoeneweis, Justin Speier, LaTroy Hawkins, Duaner Sanchez, Ramon Ortiz and Braden Looper, who are all on teams that might consider selling.


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                  • #11
                    Steve Kline got through


                    Am pretty sure the deadline is 4 p.m. on Aug. 31.
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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by ShortHop@Aug 17 2005, 11:57 AM
                      I feel stupid.
                      It's not just a feeling.

                      -RBB

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by BringBackZezel+Aug 17 2005, 02:49 PM-->
                        QUOTE(BringBackZezel @ Aug 17 2005, 02:49 PM)

                      • #14
                        OK. I'll admit it. I have no idea how the waiver system works. Could someone please explain it to me in casual baseball fan terms?

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                        • #15
                          From BA:

                          How do waivers work?

                          A waiver is defined as a permission granted for certain assignments or for the unconditional release of a major league player.

                          A team asking waivers must notify the commissioner's office by 2 p.m. ET Monday through Friday. The commissioner's office will then notify all of the other teams of the waiver request. The other teams then have three business days to file a claim. If no team claims the player, the waiver is granted and the player may be assigned as the team desired. If a claim is filed, the team may withdraw the waiver request and keep the player if they so choose. Otherwise the player shall be assigned to the claiming team. If more than one team files a claim, the priority goes to the team with the worst record within the same league as the team filing the waiver request.

                          Waivers are required for assignment to the minor leagues for any player who does not have options remaining.

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