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    Playoff rotation may be reduced by one pitcher
    By Rick Hummel
    Of the Post-Dispatch
    08/16/2005

    In preparing for a potential playoff scenario, look for the Cardinals by Aug. 31 to reduce the number of pitchers on their staff from 12 to 11, general manager Walt Jocketty said Tuesday.

    "Once you set your roster on Aug. 31, you can move players around, but the number of pitchers and position players is set" for the postseason, Jocketty said. "You don't normally need the extra pitcher in the postseason (there are several off days built in). You'd rather have an extra position player for the bench. The hard part is going to be the person you would take off."

    The Cardinals have had 12 pitchers virtually all season.

    In 2002, the Cardinals were stuck taking 12 pitchers into the postseason because they had to have that many on Aug. 31 for a makeup doubleheader in Chicago. Then, when third baseman Scott Rolen suffered a shoulder injury in the first round of the playoffs, they were caught with only four available bench players.
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    Jocketty said it hardly was out of the question that righthander Anthony Reyes, dazzling in his major-league debut last week in Milwaukee, would be one of the few recalls made in September.

    Reyes technically could be a postseason pitcher if the Cardinals get there even if he is brought back after Aug. 31 because the Cardinals can replace pitcher Mike Lincoln, who has been disabled all season, with any player (i.e. Reyes), who was in their organization on Aug. 31.

    It also isn't impossible that Rick Ankiel could be brought up in September as an outfielder. That would be the first time the former pitcher would be in the big leagues as a position player.

    "I love Rick Ankiel," manager Tony La Russa said. "There's something good about having him on a ballclub."


    No big moves

    Jocketty said he didn't envision making any major move to shore up the club's roster for the last six-plus weeks other than welcoming back Yadier Molina, Larry Walker, Reggie Sanders and Rolen from the disabled list.

    "I'd like to get Larry Walker back for the second half of this year like we did last year," Jocketty said of his early August acquisition in 2004. "We've got four ballplayers on the disabled list who are far better than anybody we could acquire in a trade. Without them, we've been maintaining, but we're a much better team with them.

    "I still don't feel the urgency to do something. If something develops, great. If it doesn't, I'm not concerned about it."

    Jocketty said reports were good on the hand scan that Molina underwent on Tuesday. He has been out since July 7 with a broken bone in his left hand.

    Jocketty and La Russa said the catcher should be appearing in this six-game home stand - possibly as early as Thursday - and would not need to go out on a rehabilitation option in the minors.

    The reason for this is that the Cardinals value Molina's catching and handling of the pitching staff far more than his hitting, which has improved. La Russa had said earlier in the season that Molina, who opened up one for 31, would be his catcher if he never got a hit.

    Molina, who warmed up staff ace Chris Carpenter in the bullpen Tuesday night, said, "Two or three more days and I'll be back. I felt pain last week, but right now it feels OK."

    Trainer Barry Weinberg said, "We saw really significant healing. It will be quick."

    Right fielder Walker should be joining Molina in the lineup sometime this week. Walker put on an impressive long-ball display in batting practice Tuesday as he made his first appearance on the field at Busch Stadium since he went out of the lineup again with a herniated disc in his neck.

    "Maybe (today)," quipped La Russa, hopefully but not realistically. Walker, for instance, has six runs batted in for 14 at-bats against Arizona righthander Brandon Webb, who is starting tonight.

    "But (Walker) is the one who's going to say."

    And Walker says, not yet.

    "I wish (he could play tonight)," Walker said. "A couple more days of this (batting practice) and we'll see."

    Sanders, who suffered a broken right fibula on July 15, should be cleared to start running today if he passes muster from an X-ray administered Tuesday night.

    "It feels pretty good," Sanders said. "There's no pain."

    As for third baseman Rolen and his inflamed left shoulder, Jocketty said, "He's about the same. I don't think he's regressed. He's maybe progressed a little. But I think there's still a realistic chance he can come back."


    Changing the order

    Second baseman Mark Grudzielanek hit fourth for the second time this season - and in his career - Tuesday night. Normal cleanup man Jim Edmonds was dropped to fifth and he was armed with a new/old approach to hitting.

    "I'm going back to the way I used to hit," said Edmonds, who has one homer this month.

    And that approach is?

    "Just hitting," he said. "Not worrying about where it's going or getting on top of the ball or any of that other stuff. Hogwash."


    Good company

    When Albert Pujols reached 100 runs on Saturday, he became the fourth player to score 600 or more runs in his first five seasons, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

    Two others were New York Yankees - Hall of Famers Earle Combs (614) and Joe DiMaggio (613). The third previous 600-run man was Pittsburgh Hall of Famer Paul Waner (605).


    Staff writer Derrick Goold contributed to this report.

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  • #2
    My opine: sit Rolen till spring training if he hasn't improved yet...no use of getting stuck w/ an albatross of a contract if an 'experiment' of him coming back fails....

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    • #3
      If Ankiel is called up - expect a news circus.
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      • #4
        Couple things. First, it just seems they continue to be pretty vague about Rolen's progress. What are the chances he'll be back this year, healthy? Anybody have a clue? To me, it seems doubtful that he'll be back this year. Guess they're counting on Nunez to hold up.

        Second, as for Tony's praise of Ankiel and mentioning he might be brought up this year...WTF? He's batting a combined .224 in A and AA. Are they secretly holding out hope that he'll pitch for the club again? Is he really that solid of a hitter? Better than what we've got now? Is he even better than Schumaker and Gall? He's certainly not a better bet than Mabry and Taguchi.

        Third, is Lincoln ever coming back?
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        • #5
          I'll be shocked if Rolen plays again this year, which makes me even more pissed that they tried to bring him back after his first visit to the DL.
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          • #6
            Regarding the playoff roster - I'm guessing they'll send Brad Thompson to Memphis on August 31. They can bring him back up after the final Memphis regular season game on September 5th.

            I think Brad's the only current pitcher who we've used an option on. Stan?

            I doubt Lincoln will be seen at all this year. He's made progress from earlier in the year, but I don't think he's doing anything more than long toss at this point. IMO, Shut him down, and give him the off-season to fully recover.

            I'm expecting nothing from Rolen, and don't be suprised to see another shoulder surgery before October.

            -RBB

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RedBirdBrain@Aug 17 2005, 12:25 PM
              Regarding the playoff roster - I'm guessing they'll send Brad Thompson to Memphis on August 31. They can bring him back up after the final Memphis regular season game on September 5th.

              I think Brad's the only current pitcher who we've used an option on. Stan?

              I doubt Lincoln will be seen at all this year. He's made progress from earlier in the year, but I don't think he's doing anything more than long toss at this point. IMO, Shut him down, and give him the off-season to fully recover.

              I'm expecting nothing from Rolen, and don't be suprised to see another shoulder surgery before October.

              -RBB
              Thanks, RBB. Do you see Ankiel fitting into the roster this year?
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              • #8
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                Originally posted by justwundrin@Aug 17 2005, 08:10 AM
                Second, as for Tony's praise of Ankiel and mentioning he might be brought up this year...WTF? He's batting a combined .224 in A and AA. Are they secretly holding out hope that he'll pitch for the club again? Is he really that solid of a hitter? Better than what we've got now? Is he even better than Schumaker and Gall? He's certainly not a better bet than Mabry and Taguchi.
                Re: Ankiel - his numbers are skewed because he was playing through back and (I think) ankle injuries. His time at Quad Cities was a "rehab assignment". These are his AA numbers since his callup from the rehab assignment, and YTD (as of 8/15/05):

                Code:
                   Since Callup   Season to Date (8/14/05)
                 HR =    3         3
                RBI =   12         12
                 R =    6         6
                 BB =    4         5
                 K =    7         15
                AVG =   .316        .224
                OBP =   .381        .286
                SLG =   .632        .431
                OPS =  1.013        .717
                He still needs to work on his K/BB ratio, but he's been absolutely raking lately, and playing good defense in the OF.

                I don't know if he's ML ready yet, but it's not going to hurt to have him stick around.

                -RBB

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                • #9
                  Ankiel has probably passed Gall on the depth chart

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RedBirdBrain+Aug 17 2005, 12:37 PM-->
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                  • #11
                    Regarding the rotation, if things don't change in the next few starts I see Suppan as a starter in the playoffs and either Marquis or Morris moving to the bullpen.
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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by hkyfan@Aug 17 2005, 11:44 AM
                      Regarding the rotation, if things don't change in the next few starts I see Suppan as a starter in the playoffs and either Marquis or Morris moving to the bullpen.
                      Agreed. Suppan is a big game pitcher. How many times this year has he gone up against the other team's ace and come out on top? How many times has he been the one to stop a losing streak? And he was money on the mound (note I didn't say on the basepaths) last year. Barring a major turnaround, Marquis is either a bullpen arm or a pinch hitter.

                      Justwundrin - I think Ankiel will definitely be up in September. And I think this will serve as an audition of sorts. If he plays well and hits well, he could compete for at least a spot on the bench next year. And if he doesn't, you can chaulk it up to inexperience. It's a win-win IMO.

                      He won't make the post-season roster though, barring a Ruthian final month of the season and a lot of injuries to outfielders.

                      -RBB

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                      • #13
                        At this point I'd say the rotation for the first round is Carpenter, Mulder, Suppan

                        Marquis and Morris have been mostly mediocre the 2nd half.
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                        • #14
                          Thompson will probably be the odd man out, and that is a shame. Eldred has good stats and an inside track personally with LaRussa. It is written in stone that you have to have two lefthanders, even if you have a righthander who is getting more lefthanded batters out.

                          Marquis will be moved to the bullpen, and he can be used as a pinch hitter. I guess there is a chance Morris could be dropped if he has 4 or 5 more bad outings. It would probably save on salary incentives.
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                          • #15
                            You guys got to remember who the manager is. There's no way he's going to keep Morris out of the playoff rotation.

                            I also predict Rolen will return, even if he's no better. He's still a great asset defensively. The important question is, will Tony drop him way down in the order. I don't care if he plays, I just don't want him batting fifth or sixth.
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