Roster moves!

[kah2523]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/st...ter+takes+shape


Lots and lots of good info in this story. Luna looks like he will make it. McKay looks like he might make it. The last roster spot might come down to Widger vs. Hart. I think I would just as soon see them send Hart to Memphis, keep Widger as the backup catcher, and use McKay as the backup 1B/3B (although this will no doubt have people going apeshit and screaming "three catchers!!!", even if McKay gets little or no time at catcher).

Simo gets the nod over Kiko. I'm a little disappointed, but Simo has had a better spring, and he can give the team more innings and the occasional spot start. Maybe it won't be a bad thing for Calero to get work in Memphis. If he still shows the form he flashed last season, he'll earn his way back to the big club, or he can be used for a trade.

Speaking of trades, the article also suggests that there's so much pitching at Memphis that the Cards might swing a trade within the week.

[007]

Kiko wasn't ready from getting his arm back in shape...I think it was a good move to have him down there @ Memphis...

[Indu WangZi]

From the article...

A logjam of starters - Jason Ryan, Dan Haren, Rhett Parrott, Benes, Calero and Adam Wainwright - suggests a potential trade in the next week.

Now...there are 3 pitchers there you SHOULD not trade...the others are very suspect..Benes...who wants him?? Calero..maybe...

You can not trade Haren, Parrott and Wainright...

I think most other teams have = or better talent down on the farm than the Cards..

I just dont see too many clubs getting excited over guys that are expendable (Wainright and Parrott are not expendable)

[007]

Originally posted by Indu WangZi@Apr 1 2004, 02:09 AM
From the article...

A logjam of starters - Jason Ryan, Dan Haren, Rhett Parrott, Benes, Calero and Adam Wainwright - suggests a potential trade in the next week.

Now...there are 3 pitchers there you SHOULD not trade...the others are very suspect..Benes...who wants him?? Calero..maybe...

You can not trade Haren, Parrott and Wainright...

I think most other teams have = or better talent down on the farm than the Cards..

I just dont see too many clubs getting excited over guys that are expendable (Wainright and Parrott are not expendable)

I think its Parrot and Ryan that's going....

[Indu WangZi]

Originally posted by 007+Apr 1 2004, 02:10 AM-->

QUOTE (007 @ Apr 1 2004, 02:10 AM)

007 With you or at you? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 114063 Share Tweet #6 04-01-2004, 01:12 AM Originally posted by Indu WangZi+Apr 1 2004, 02:11 AM--> QUOTE (Indu WangZi @ Apr 1 2004, 02:11 AM) Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 02:10 AM kah2523 Share Tweet #7 04-01-2004, 01:23 AM Originally posted by 007@Apr 1 2004, 02:05 AM Kiko wasn't ready from getting his arm back in shape...I think it was a good move to have him down there @ Memphis... I am still bowled over by the notion the Cardinals feel they have an excess of pitching. But it is nice to know that if some of the guys we have now don't work out, we have Dan Haren, Calero, and possibly a rejuvenated Alan Benes waiting in the wings. I also like Taguchi on the roster, since I took him with my very last fantasy baseball pick. Comment Post Cancel Crackless McCracken Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1670 Share Tweet #8 04-01-2004, 05:20 AM I can't recall a weaker Cardinal bench. The last two spots are between Hart, a clubhouse mascot with marginal ability beyond AA, and a coach's son? Neither of them are hitting .200 in the spring games. It makes me wonder if Tony is serious about winning this year or just making his last Cardinal stand some sort of fuzzy feel good thing. Official Lounge Sponsor of lasvegasreb and his shoes. Comment Post Cancel Razzy The White Raz Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 27625 Share Tweet #9 04-01-2004, 06:47 AM Originally posted by Crackless McCracken@Apr 1 2004, 06:20 AM It makes me wonder if Tony is serious about winning this year or just making his last Cardinal stand some sort of fuzzy feel good thing. That's the disappointing thing - TLR is actually trying to win. “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.” Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in. Comment Post Cancel jhanke Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 21967 Share Tweet #10 04-01-2004, 06:50 AM So who should i sponser? Actualy considering i have alot in common with him now mabey i should keep him Official Sponsor of Marco Gonzales and the Productive Out!!! Said the Quangle Wangle Quee Comment Post Cancel bigJOE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7055 Share Tweet #11 04-01-2004, 07:47 AM what about chris narveson? why wasn't he included in the logjam of starters in AAA? Official 2009 Sponsor of nobody Comment Post Cancel Fishbone Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9374 Share Tweet #12 04-01-2004, 07:48 AM Originally posted by bigJOE@Apr 1 2004, 09:47 AM what about chris narveson? why wasn't he included in the logjam of starters in AAA? He and Hawksworth will still be in AA. That's nothing to be worried about, as AAA pitchers are usually more of the career minor leaguer type. The real prospects only go through AAA for a short time to get a little more seasoning. Comment Post Cancel FAR52 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 21652 Share Tweet #13 04-01-2004, 07:49 AM Can someone please explain to me why in the hell Cody McKay is going to make this club. Unless I'm missing something, I just don't see what he has done to earn a spot on the bench. "You can't handle my opinions." Moedrabowsky Jeffro is a hell of a good man. "A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel." - Robert Frost Comment Post Cancel SLUBLUE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 20466 Share Tweet #14 04-01-2004, 07:52 AM I have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one, 007. I don't think you give up two quality young pitchers for a backup first baseman. Are you joking? Are you on the list? Comment Post Cancel kaiser Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7025 Share Tweet #15 04-01-2004, 07:57 AM Originally posted by FAR52@Apr 1 2004, 08:49 AM Can someone please explain to me why in the hell Cody McKay is going to make this club. Unless I'm missing something, I just don't see what he has done to earn a spot on the bench. I don't get it either. The rationale seems to be that he's a lefthanded hitter who is versatile (no one ever really says he's GOOD, mind you) defensively. I'm always right. Comment Post Cancel Previous 1 2 3 4 7 template Next English (US) Deutsch (Du) English (US) French Spanish Help Contact Us Go to top Copyright © 2003-13, TippingPitchers.com Powered by vBulletin® Version 5.7.3 Copyright © 2023 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. All times are GMT-6. This page was generated at 09:44 PM. Working... Yes No OK OK Cancel X

[007]

Originally posted by Indu WangZi+Apr 1 2004, 02:11 AM-->

QUOTE (Indu WangZi @ Apr 1 2004, 02:11 AM)

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 02:10 AM kah2523 Share Tweet #7 04-01-2004, 01:23 AM Originally posted by 007@Apr 1 2004, 02:05 AM Kiko wasn't ready from getting his arm back in shape...I think it was a good move to have him down there @ Memphis... I am still bowled over by the notion the Cardinals feel they have an excess of pitching. But it is nice to know that if some of the guys we have now don't work out, we have Dan Haren, Calero, and possibly a rejuvenated Alan Benes waiting in the wings. I also like Taguchi on the roster, since I took him with my very last fantasy baseball pick. Comment Post Cancel Crackless McCracken Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1670 Share Tweet #8 04-01-2004, 05:20 AM I can't recall a weaker Cardinal bench. The last two spots are between Hart, a clubhouse mascot with marginal ability beyond AA, and a coach's son? Neither of them are hitting .200 in the spring games. It makes me wonder if Tony is serious about winning this year or just making his last Cardinal stand some sort of fuzzy feel good thing. Official Lounge Sponsor of lasvegasreb and his shoes. Comment Post Cancel Razzy The White Raz Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 27625 Share Tweet #9 04-01-2004, 06:47 AM Originally posted by Crackless McCracken@Apr 1 2004, 06:20 AM It makes me wonder if Tony is serious about winning this year or just making his last Cardinal stand some sort of fuzzy feel good thing. That's the disappointing thing - TLR is actually trying to win. “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.” Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in. Comment Post Cancel jhanke Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 21967 Share Tweet #10 04-01-2004, 06:50 AM So who should i sponser? Actualy considering i have alot in common with him now mabey i should keep him Official Sponsor of Marco Gonzales and the Productive Out!!! Said the Quangle Wangle Quee Comment Post Cancel bigJOE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7055 Share Tweet #11 04-01-2004, 07:47 AM what about chris narveson? why wasn't he included in the logjam of starters in AAA? Official 2009 Sponsor of nobody Comment Post Cancel Fishbone Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9374 Share Tweet #12 04-01-2004, 07:48 AM Originally posted by bigJOE@Apr 1 2004, 09:47 AM what about chris narveson? why wasn't he included in the logjam of starters in AAA? He and Hawksworth will still be in AA. That's nothing to be worried about, as AAA pitchers are usually more of the career minor leaguer type. The real prospects only go through AAA for a short time to get a little more seasoning. Comment Post Cancel FAR52 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 21652 Share Tweet #13 04-01-2004, 07:49 AM Can someone please explain to me why in the hell Cody McKay is going to make this club. Unless I'm missing something, I just don't see what he has done to earn a spot on the bench. "You can't handle my opinions." Moedrabowsky Jeffro is a hell of a good man. "A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel." - Robert Frost Comment Post Cancel SLUBLUE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 20466 Share Tweet #14 04-01-2004, 07:52 AM I have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one, 007. I don't think you give up two quality young pitchers for a backup first baseman. Are you joking? Are you on the list? Comment Post Cancel kaiser Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7025 Share Tweet #15 04-01-2004, 07:57 AM Originally posted by FAR52@Apr 1 2004, 08:49 AM Can someone please explain to me why in the hell Cody McKay is going to make this club. Unless I'm missing something, I just don't see what he has done to earn a spot on the bench. I don't get it either. The rationale seems to be that he's a lefthanded hitter who is versatile (no one ever really says he's GOOD, mind you) defensively. I'm always right. Comment Post Cancel Previous 1 2 3 4 7 template Next English (US) Deutsch (Du) English (US) French Spanish Help Contact Us Go to top Copyright © 2003-13, TippingPitchers.com Powered by vBulletin® Version 5.7.3 Copyright © 2023 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. All times are GMT-6. This page was generated at 09:44 PM. Working... Yes No OK OK Cancel X

[kah2523]

Originally posted by 007@Apr 1 2004, 02:05 AM
Kiko wasn't ready from getting his arm back in shape...I think it was a good move to have him down there @ Memphis...

I am still bowled over by the notion the Cardinals feel they have an excess of pitching. But it is nice to know that if some of the guys we have now don't work out, we have Dan Haren, Calero, and possibly a rejuvenated Alan Benes waiting in the wings.

I also like Taguchi on the roster, since I took him with my very last fantasy baseball pick.

[Crackless McCracken]

I can't recall a weaker Cardinal bench. The last two spots are between Hart, a clubhouse mascot with marginal ability beyond AA, and a coach's son? Neither of them are hitting .200 in the spring games.

It makes me wonder if Tony is serious about winning this year or just making his last Cardinal stand some sort of fuzzy feel good thing.

[Razzy]

Originally posted by Crackless McCracken@Apr 1 2004, 06:20 AM
It makes me wonder if Tony is serious about winning this year or just making his last Cardinal stand some sort of fuzzy feel good thing.

That's the disappointing thing - TLR is actually trying to win.

[jhanke]

So who should i sponser? Actualy considering i have alot in common with him now mabey i should keep him

[bigJOE]

what about chris narveson? why wasn't he included in the logjam of starters in AAA?

[Fishbone]

Originally posted by bigJOE@Apr 1 2004, 09:47 AM
what about chris narveson? why wasn't he included in the logjam of starters in AAA?

He and Hawksworth will still be in AA. That's nothing to be worried about, as AAA pitchers are usually more of the career minor leaguer type. The real prospects only go through AAA for a short time to get a little more seasoning.

[FAR52]

Can someone please explain to me why in the hell Cody McKay is going to make this club. Unless I'm missing something, I just don't see what he has done to earn a spot on the bench.

[SLUBLUE]

I have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one, 007. I don't think you give up two quality young pitchers for a backup first baseman. Are you joking?

[kaiser]

Originally posted by FAR52@Apr 1 2004, 08:49 AM
Can someone please explain to me why in the hell Cody McKay is going to make this club. Unless I'm missing something, I just don't see what he has done to earn a spot on the bench.

I don't get it either.

The rationale seems to be that he's a lefthanded hitter who is versatile (no one ever really says he's GOOD, mind you) defensively.