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    Can I have an 'Amen' !!!!!!!!


    30 black pastors join gay-marriage critics
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    03/24/2004


    Group says struggle
    cannot be equated to
    civil rights movement



    ATLANTA - More than two dozen black pastors added their voice to the critics of same-sex marriage, attempting to distance the civil rights struggle from the gay rights movement and defending marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

    "When the homosexual compares himself to the black community, he doesn't know what suffering is," said the Rev. Clarence James, an African-American studies professor at Temple University.

    James and 29 pastors rallied late Monday with their supporters at an Atlanta-area church where they signed a declaration outlining their beliefs on marriage and religion.

    The declaration is meant to pressure state representatives to approve a constitutional ban on gay marriages, which will be considered again by the Georgia House as soon as this week.

    The declaration, to be presented to state leaders today or Thursday, says same-sex marriage is not a civil right, and marriage between a man and a woman is important because it's necessary for the upbringing of children.
    "To equate a lifestyle choice to racism demeans the work of the entire civil rights movement," the statement said. "People are free in our nation to pursue relationships as they choose. To redefine marriage, however, to suit the preference of those choosing alternative lifestyles is wrong."

    Same-sex marriage is already illegal in Georgia, but supporters of the ban say the constitution needs to be changed to make sure a judge does not direct Georgia to recognize gay marriages performed in other states.

    "It is a threat to who we are and what we stand for," said Bishop William Shields of Hopewell Baptist Church. "If nothing else gets us out of the pews, this ought to."

    But the Rev. Paul Turner, a gay pastor from Atlanta who helped organize a pro-gay marriage rally last month outside the Georgia Capitol, disagreed: "How do they figure that it's not a civil rights issue?

    "This is just a way for those conservative leadership in the black community to say, 'Look, this isn't a matter of civil rights because we're black and we didn't have a choice in being black.' And they think gays do, and that's not true."

  • #2
    AMEN!!!
    Make America Great For Once.

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    • #3
      I guess it's time to ban ALL marriage.

      At least discriminate against everyone, not just those of whom you disapprove.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by dredbyrd@Mar 24 2004, 02:56 PM
        I guess it's time to ban ALL marriage.

        At least discriminate against everyone, not just those of whom you disapprove.
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        • #5
          "When the homosexual compares himself to the black community, he doesn't know what suffering is,"
          That's just ignorant.

          "It is a threat to who we are and what we stand for,"
          Has anyone ever been able to articulate whatever "logic" is behind this belief.

          Xenophobia lives on!
          Damn these electric sex pants!

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          • #6
            It's an insult for the gay pride movement to attempt to equate their struggle with that of black people.
            Make America Great For Once.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by The Kev@Mar 24 2004, 03:04 PM
              It's an insult for the gay pride movement to attempt to equate their struggle with that of black people.
              How?
              Damn these electric sex pants!

              26+31+34+42+44+46+64+67+82+06 = 10

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              • #8
                Just people tryin' to live out their lives the way they were born.
                Damn these electric sex pants!

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                • #9
                  I urger you to read the stories of the lynchings, harassment, beatings, and other forms of violence used against black people, based solely on the color of their skin..
                  Make America Great For Once.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Kev@Mar 24 2004, 03:09 PM
                    I urger you to read the stories of the lynchings, harassment, beatings, and other forms of violence used against black people, based solely on the color of their skin..
                    That's never happened to gay people, right?

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                    • #11
                      Not in the same ballpark.
                      Make America Great For Once.

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                      • #12
                        I don't need any reminders.

                        No one claims gay civil rights = black civil rights.

                        Civil rights is the more generic term. Where's the confusion?
                        Damn these electric sex pants!

                        26+31+34+42+44+46+64+67+82+06 = 10

                        Bring back the death penalty for corporations!

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                        • #13
                          Now the oppression they face is roughly the same. Over the past century, there is no denying the fact that the black man has gone through more than the homosexual

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                          • #14
                            "Put another fag on the fire."

                            Where does the phrase originate?
                            Damn these electric sex pants!

                            26+31+34+42+44+46+64+67+82+06 = 10

                            Bring back the death penalty for corporations!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dredbyrd@Mar 24 2004, 03:13 PM
                              "Put another fag on the fire."
                              You said that, not I.

                              Anyway, one can tell a black person when they walk into a room. One cannot tell a gay man, unless they're acting flambouyant.
                              Make America Great For Once.

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