Spike Lee Channeling Rush Limbaugh?

[WinstonSmith]

When filmmaker Spike Lee said in a taped segment on ABC's NBA Hangtime on Sunday, "Listen to the white media and it is like nobody has ever played basketball before" Larry Bird, studio analyst Byron Scott said, "I don't care if you talk white, black, green, (Bird) was great. Period. End of story."

Where's the outcry?

[Fishbone]

Those comments were bad, but Isiah Thomas were even more deplorable. Hey asswipe, how many times did the Celtics whoop the Pistons ass in the 80s?

[WinstonSmith]

What'd Isiah say?

I missed it.

[Fishbone]

Originally posted by WinstonSmith@Mar 23 2004, 07:26 PM
What'd Isiah say?

I missed it.

"If Bird was black, he'd be just another good guy," said Thomas after Boston won the seven game series.

[Bleacher Creature]

Winston,

Screw Spike Lee.

Larry Bird my my first team all stars, along with Michael Jordan and Magic at guard, Olajuwan at center, and Dr. J at the other forward.

[WinstonSmith]

Hey, I think Bird was great.

The reason I posted this, in case someone presses me for an answer later, is that I didn't hear ANYTHING about this at all.

In comparison to the Limbaugh situation, this is deafening.

Its just interesting, that's all.

[kah2523]

Originally posted by WinstonSmith@Mar 23 2004, 07:33 PM
Hey, I think Bird was great.

The reason I posted this, in case someone presses me for an answer later, is that I didn't hear ANYTHING about this at all.

In comparison to the Limbaugh situation, this is deafening.

Its just interesting, that's all.

Because no one's listening to Spike Lee, and Spike Lee is not an ESPN commentator? Hell, he hasn't even made a good movie since Malcolm X. There's no outcry over Spike Lee because no one gives a shit what he says.

A better question is why you, Winston, feel compelled to defend that "loathesome turd" (to coin a phrase) Limbaugh.

[Iowa_Card]

Spike Lee only wishes he could jump as high as Bird can.

[thetorch]

This was all they talked about on the Dan Patrick Show this aftenoon.

If Spike Lee was an ESPN commentator I would be calling for his job. But he is just an overrated director so he is entitled to his opinion.

Isiah says he never said that stuff about Bird. He was misquoted. Dennis Rodman was involved in this as well.

I agree with Spike to a degree. Black athletes are always expected to be great athletes. White guys have to work harder then everybody, while balck gusy don't have to do any work. This is all BS. White guys are just as good of athletes and black guys work just as hard. The media always portrays blacks as just gifted athletes, while white guys are always blue collar workers getting more out of their limited ability to achieve success.

[WinstonSmith]

Kah, how is it defending Limbaugh when I notice that others are doing similar things?

Rush was chastised, Spike has been given a pass thus far.

Its interesting.

[kah2523]

Originally posted by WinstonSmith@Mar 23 2004, 09:12 PM
Kah, how is it defending Limbaugh when I notice that others are doing similar things?

Rush was chastised, Spike has been given a pass thus far.

Its interesting.

What do you mean, a pass? As Torch (and I hate relying on him for anything, but he might be telling the truth) comments, it was on ESPN radio. You evidently heard it on some media outlet somewhere. So it's not a secret.

I guess, if you wanted, you could dig up every statement by every vaguely semi-public person on the Left of the spectrum. You could no doubt compile a list, and make post after post saying "why isn't THIS person getting as much attention as Rush did?" But it doesn't work that way. There are no immutable Laws of Media Attention.

Rush, frankly, is more prominent than Spike Lee to begin with. Rush was hired for a prominent SPORTS COMMENTARY job, a hire that in and of itself was controversial and pissed a lot of people (like me) off. There was a certain "time bomb" aspect to the whole thing--really, we knew he would say something idiotic and make an ass of himself once he was removed from his right-wing cocoon. And then he did. And at virtually the same time he was busted for being a dope addict. Add all that together--prominent pundit, controversial prominent hire to a prominent sports job, prominent controversial statement on national TV. I'm sorry, but there is just no way that the media is not going to pounce on him. At least not until Rupert Murdoch takes everything over and Fox News becomes the Ministry of Propaganda, anyway.

Conversely, you have Spike Lee, a director with a downwardly mobile career who isn't involved in sports in any way, mouthing off to no one in particular. I don't know what type of equivalence you're trying to suggest, but I don't see it.

And it plays into the "big bad liberal media is attacking us!!" line from the conservatives, which, frankly, is whining, especially in an era where the Right owns talk radio, owns its own 24/7 "news" network (Fox), completely controls the government, and has the power to drive a television program off the air if Republicans don't like it ("The Reagans"). So, please, stop the whining about the big bad liberal media. You own the country. You're running everything. Please, stop.

When Michael Moore gets hired by ESPN and says something stupid about how there are so few black starting pitchers because all baseball executives are racists, then we can talk about equivalence.

[WinstonSmith]

Nothing to do with liberal conservative.

For God's sake, Kah.

Forget it. My point was made, the comments stand for themselves.

[ironman]

I found the Limbaugh comments true.

I find these comments true.

What's wrong with that? We have a huge elephant in the room that people never want to address. When it is addressed people tighten the hell up.

And Winston, you can't talk about these things with Kah. :-)

[Damtoft]

Corinne Brown
Dusty Baker
Slick Willie Brown
Carmento (No Pink Toes!) Floyd
Spike Lee

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What do they all have in common (other than the inability of the dominant media to publicize their obviously racist remarks?)