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    I for one wish this guy would go away. But I think he's going to get in it tomorrow. It cost Democrats the White House last time and it could do the same thing again. Oh well, guess I just have to hope everyone is as sick of W as me.
    "They misunderestimated me."
    Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000


    "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."—Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004


    "If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign."
    -Hilton Head, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000

    Gives you the warm fuzzies, doesn't it?

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    I don't think so this time, those dems that voted nader last time wanted change and to get away from the Clinton legasy. Now it is the right causing problems and the left should unite against bush. This will be like Perot the second time, meaningless

    I hope

    Official Sponsor of Marco Gonzales and the Productive Out!!!


    Said the Quangle Wangle Quee

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jhanke@Feb 21 2004, 09:27 PM
      I don't think so this time, those dems that voted nader last time wanted change and to get away from the Clinton legasy. Now it is the right causing problems and the left should unite against bush. This will be like Perot the second time, meaningless

      I hope
      I certainly hope you're right! But I see this as being at least as close as the last election. A few thousan votes here or there could mean the Presidency. I can only hope Mr. Nader looks at the possible alternatives and chooses to sit this one out.
      "They misunderestimated me."
      Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000


      "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."—Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004


      "If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign."
      -Hilton Head, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000

      Gives you the warm fuzzies, doesn't it?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by matt75+Feb 21 2004, 09:29 PM-->
        QUOTE(matt75 @ Feb 21 2004, 09:29 PM)

      • #5
        Originally posted by lazydaze+Feb 21 2004, 09:31 PM-->
        QUOTE(lazydaze @ Feb 21 2004, 09:31 PM)
        Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 09:29 PM

      • #6
        he's not with the greens this time, that's not going to help him

        he'll have Eddie Vedder's vote, that's about it.
        Are you on the list?

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        • #7
          Originally posted by lazydaze+Feb 21 2004, 09:31 PM-->
          QUOTE(lazydaze @ Feb 21 2004, 09:31 PM)
          Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 09:29 PM

        • #8
          Originally posted by SLUBLUE+Feb 21 2004, 09:35 PM-->
          QUOTE(SLUBLUE @ Feb 21 2004, 09:35 PM)
          Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 09:31 PM
          Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 09:29 PM

        • #9
          Originally posted by matt75+Feb 21 2004, 09:34 PM-->
          QUOTE(matt75 @ Feb 21 2004, 09:34 PM)
          Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 09:31 PM
          Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 09:29 PM

        • #10
          No, I have not.



          I have only voted for one republican. GHB the second go round. [/quote]
          So what you're telling me, is that in your entire adult life, there has never been a Democratic candidate for any office that you considered worthy of your vote? And you've only voted for one Republican? Do you just not vote, or do you seek out independents only?
          "They misunderestimated me."
          Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000


          "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."—Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004


          "If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign."
          -Hilton Head, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000

          Gives you the warm fuzzies, doesn't it?

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          • #11
            So what you're telling me, is that in your entire adult life, there has never been a Democratic candidate for any office that you considered worthy of your vote?  And you've only voted for one Republican?  Do you just not vote, or do you seek out independents only?
            I have voted independant.

            I have never voted for a democrat presidential nominee.

            On a general basis, I tend to align with those that seek to limit government intervention.

            This next election is shaping up to be an exception.
            Un-Official Sponsor of Randy Choate and Kevin Siegrist

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            • #12
              Where's Harold Stassen when you need him?
              LONG LIVE THE NOTE!

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              • #14
                Oh, what the hell. I am going to keep saying it, even though the only agreement I get is from republicans who think I am completely wrong. A third party effort which gets less than 5 percent of the vote, (usually it is about 1 to 2 percent) has consistently helped the person who the media tell you will be hurt. In 1948, Truman got competition from the left (Henry Wallace) and the right (Strom Thurmond). Truman won. In 1968, Nixon had competition on his right(George Wallace). Nixon won. In 1976, Gene McCarthy lost all the glory he established by challenging LBJ 8 years earlier. Democrats were sure he would cost Carter the election. Carter won. In 1980, Reagan had to contend with former republican John Anderson. Reagan won. In 1992, a case can be made that Perot cost Bush the election. Not as much as leaving that idiot Quayle on his ticket. In 2000, it was easy to point to the 97000 votes Nader got in Florida and compare it to the tiny difference between Bush and Gore. If Nader had never entered the race, Gore's connection to Clinton would have been talked about more, the environment and health care would have been talked about less, and fewer people total would have voted. Bush would have set the agenda about what was to be debated, and he would have carried several more states and would have actually won the popular vote. There is no way to compute how many people thought about not voting, thought about voting for Nader and finally voted for Gore. Damn, this is a lonely argument to make. I am voting for Kerry---I am not afraid of Nader and the things he will talk about. Screw Terry McAuliffe. Nader has already inspired the democrats to come up with two men, Edwards and Kerry, who are superior to Al Gore. Not that that's saying much.
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