Raiders sign Sapp

[Jack Sparrow]

Sapp Sucks

Glad he didnt come here!

[JK]

What a perfect fit for that fat ass.

[Schwahalala]

Sapp equals idiot, loud mouth, with questionable talent.

[SLUBLUE]

interesting

[CD]

I'm interested in seeing Simeon Rice's sack totals now that he won't have Sapp drawing double-teams beside him.

[Jack Daniels]

Just when the bengals thought they had a deal...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...pasquarelli_len

[lazydaze]

This type of maneuvering is precisely why I will always love the raiders.

[OldSchoolStroker]

Originally posted by lazydaze@Mar 20 2004, 11:01 PM
This type of maneuvering is precisely why I will always love the raiders.

Me too...


p.s.

Would've been nice if we didn't have $$$ tied up in 3 mediocre first-round DTs & could've made a pitch for Sapp...our D is sorely lacking the killer-instinct and somewhat dirty tactics he alway brought when we had to play Tampa...

[CD]

Originally posted by OldSchoolStroker+Mar 20 2004, 09:12 PM-->

QUOTE (OldSchoolStroker @ Mar 20 2004, 09:12 PM)

OldSchoolStroker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 8466 Share Tweet #10 03-20-2004, 10:21 PM Originally posted by devaskar+Mar 20 2004, 11:14 PM--> QUOTE (devaskar @ Mar 20 2004, 11:14 PM) Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 09:12 PM CD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18253 Share Tweet #11 03-20-2004, 10:29 PM It depends on what the Rams thought Warner was worth. If they thought they could get a lot for him, then there was never any chance of him being moved. If the asking price was just a fifth round pick, then he probably could've been traded. I really believe that Warner's trade value is zero. He hasn't played well in a long time and he brings distractions to the table (largely through his wife mouthing off). I do agree that his episode in the church hurt his trade value even more because it indicated that he wasn't willing to take responsibility for his poor play. I think the idea that he'll somehow recapture some of his old form is more wishful thinking than anything else. Comment Post Cancel Fred Garvin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 6560 Share Tweet #12 03-21-2004, 07:39 AM Originally posted by OldSchoolStroker+Mar 21 2004, 12:12 AM--> QUOTE (OldSchoolStroker @ Mar 21 2004, 12:12 AM) tallahassee blues fan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 30235 Share Tweet #13 03-21-2004, 09:53 AM Fond farewells from Florida flow freely: SPORTS COMMENTARY: MIKE BIANCHI Sapp's legacy: Great player was not-so-great guy Mike Bianchi March 21, 2004 He might go down as the most feared player in Tampa Bay Buccaneers history. The shame of it is that Warren Sapp could have been the most revered, too. The man has personality, pizazz, magic and magnetism. But what Sapp never had was courtesy or civility. He treated people like garbage -- fans, media, even his own teammates. And, sadly, this is why there is no sadness today. Sapp is no longer a Buccaneer, but there is no outrage, only acceptance. Not like earlier this month, when the Bucs allowed John Lynch, another of their defensive legends, to walk away. Tampa Bay went ballistic when Lynch left. Talk-radio callers spewed vitriol. Letters to the editor still are pouring in. All for one reason: John Lynch was a great player and a good guy. Warren Sapp was a great player. There was no groundswell of support to keep Sapp, even though he desperately wanted to stay in Tampa. He turned a deaf ear on the common fan, and in the end, he got what he had coming -- an unheard farewell. "No, Warren's not a nice guy, but you can't fault him for that," says Scot Brantley, a former Bucs player who is now a radio commentator for the team. "That's just how he is." Sorry, Scot, I think you can fault him. It's not so hard to be civil to people. It's not so hard to shake a fan's hand or sign an autograph. Or smile and nod at a guest who has been invited to watch a practice. Instead, Sapp verbally assaulted that guest -- Tampa Robinson high school coach Mike Dupue. He attended a Bucs practice last season after the team honored him as the area's prep coach of the week. Dupue was standing on the sideline when Sapp came over and cussed him out -- all because Dupue had the audacity to make eye contact with Sapp. Dupue used the words "bellicose and belligerent" to describe Sapp and told the Sentinel the incident "left me heavyhearted. I felt sorry for the guy, really." Sympathy for Sapp? Nah, not me. Just a pang of regret that such a great player could leave so unloved and unwanted. For so long, Sapp was the face of the franchise and the heart of the defense. In 1996, two young defensive players -- Sapp and linebacker Derrick Brooks -- were sitting in a hotel room in San Diego watching ESPN's Chris Berman, who came on the air and said, "The Chargers play the Yucs today." Sapp looked at Brooks and said, "Damn, we've got to do something about this." They did something, all right. Sapp, Brooks and Lynch turned the most laughable losers in all of sports into one of the most dominant defenses in NFL history. And, now, ironically, Sapp is going to the same team -- the Raiders -- that the Bucs demolished in the Super Bowl. Before free agency started, there was the flawed belief that Sapp would attract countless offers and command a huge contract. In reality, he was courted by only a few teams and signed with the Raiders for $7 million in guaranteed money -- less than three other free-agent defensive tackles and not even half as much as the $15 million being bandied about last summer. Sapp's skills have eroded dramatically. The name of his Web site is QBKilla.com, but QBAnnoyance.com seems more appropriate these days. He recorded 51/2 sacks last season and leaves Tampa Bay only two sacks short of breaking Lee Roy Selmon's team mark. I'm glad he won't get the record. Lee Roy Selmon was a great player, and an even better person. June 9, 1973 - The day athletic perfection was defined. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Kva...eature=related Comment Post Cancel moedrabowsky My Uncle Had a Ho Runner Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 34204 Share Tweet #14 03-21-2004, 10:05 AM This type of maneuvering is mere proof that Al Davis is senile. He is, but the Glazers are his equal in that regard. The Bucs got a trophy and the second coach on their list, but now are in salary cap hell and in a complete rebuilding mode, with the 15th overall pick and no second-round pick. Their next pick after the first round is number 79. Al Davis is crazy like a fox. But, you're right -- signing Sapp to this contract is insane. His mind is not for rent, to any god or government. Pointless debate is what we do here -- lvr Comment Post Cancel CD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18253 Share Tweet #15 03-21-2004, 10:20 AM Originally posted by moedrabowsky@Mar 21 2004, 09:05 AM This type of maneuvering is mere proof that Al Davis is senile. He is, but the Glazers are his equal in that regard. The Bucs got a trophy and the second coach on their list, but now are in salary cap hell and in a complete rebuilding mode, with the 15th overall pick and no second-round pick. Their next pick after the first round is number 79. Al Davis is crazy like a fox. But, you're right -- signing Sapp to this contract is insane. Salary cap hell is worth the trade off if you win the Super Bowl. Comment Post Cancel Previous 1 2 template Next English (US) Deutsch (Du) English (US) French Spanish Help Contact Us Go to top Copyright © 2003-13, TippingPitchers.com Powered by vBulletin® Version 5.6.4 Copyright © 2021 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. All times are GMT-6. This page was generated at 10:28 PM. Working... Yes No OK OK Cancel X

[OldSchoolStroker]

Originally posted by devaskar+Mar 20 2004, 11:14 PM-->

QUOTE (devaskar @ Mar 20 2004, 11:14 PM)

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2004, 09:12 PM CD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18253 Share Tweet #11 03-20-2004, 10:29 PM It depends on what the Rams thought Warner was worth. If they thought they could get a lot for him, then there was never any chance of him being moved. If the asking price was just a fifth round pick, then he probably could've been traded. I really believe that Warner's trade value is zero. He hasn't played well in a long time and he brings distractions to the table (largely through his wife mouthing off). I do agree that his episode in the church hurt his trade value even more because it indicated that he wasn't willing to take responsibility for his poor play. I think the idea that he'll somehow recapture some of his old form is more wishful thinking than anything else. Comment Post Cancel Fred Garvin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 6560 Share Tweet #12 03-21-2004, 07:39 AM Originally posted by OldSchoolStroker+Mar 21 2004, 12:12 AM--> QUOTE (OldSchoolStroker @ Mar 21 2004, 12:12 AM) tallahassee blues fan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 30235 Share Tweet #13 03-21-2004, 09:53 AM Fond farewells from Florida flow freely: SPORTS COMMENTARY: MIKE BIANCHI Sapp's legacy: Great player was not-so-great guy Mike Bianchi March 21, 2004 He might go down as the most feared player in Tampa Bay Buccaneers history. The shame of it is that Warren Sapp could have been the most revered, too. The man has personality, pizazz, magic and magnetism. But what Sapp never had was courtesy or civility. He treated people like garbage -- fans, media, even his own teammates. And, sadly, this is why there is no sadness today. Sapp is no longer a Buccaneer, but there is no outrage, only acceptance. Not like earlier this month, when the Bucs allowed John Lynch, another of their defensive legends, to walk away. Tampa Bay went ballistic when Lynch left. Talk-radio callers spewed vitriol. Letters to the editor still are pouring in. All for one reason: John Lynch was a great player and a good guy. Warren Sapp was a great player. There was no groundswell of support to keep Sapp, even though he desperately wanted to stay in Tampa. He turned a deaf ear on the common fan, and in the end, he got what he had coming -- an unheard farewell. "No, Warren's not a nice guy, but you can't fault him for that," says Scot Brantley, a former Bucs player who is now a radio commentator for the team. "That's just how he is." Sorry, Scot, I think you can fault him. It's not so hard to be civil to people. It's not so hard to shake a fan's hand or sign an autograph. Or smile and nod at a guest who has been invited to watch a practice. Instead, Sapp verbally assaulted that guest -- Tampa Robinson high school coach Mike Dupue. He attended a Bucs practice last season after the team honored him as the area's prep coach of the week. Dupue was standing on the sideline when Sapp came over and cussed him out -- all because Dupue had the audacity to make eye contact with Sapp. Dupue used the words "bellicose and belligerent" to describe Sapp and told the Sentinel the incident "left me heavyhearted. I felt sorry for the guy, really." Sympathy for Sapp? Nah, not me. Just a pang of regret that such a great player could leave so unloved and unwanted. For so long, Sapp was the face of the franchise and the heart of the defense. In 1996, two young defensive players -- Sapp and linebacker Derrick Brooks -- were sitting in a hotel room in San Diego watching ESPN's Chris Berman, who came on the air and said, "The Chargers play the Yucs today." Sapp looked at Brooks and said, "Damn, we've got to do something about this." They did something, all right. Sapp, Brooks and Lynch turned the most laughable losers in all of sports into one of the most dominant defenses in NFL history. And, now, ironically, Sapp is going to the same team -- the Raiders -- that the Bucs demolished in the Super Bowl. Before free agency started, there was the flawed belief that Sapp would attract countless offers and command a huge contract. In reality, he was courted by only a few teams and signed with the Raiders for $7 million in guaranteed money -- less than three other free-agent defensive tackles and not even half as much as the $15 million being bandied about last summer. Sapp's skills have eroded dramatically. The name of his Web site is QBKilla.com, but QBAnnoyance.com seems more appropriate these days. He recorded 51/2 sacks last season and leaves Tampa Bay only two sacks short of breaking Lee Roy Selmon's team mark. I'm glad he won't get the record. Lee Roy Selmon was a great player, and an even better person. June 9, 1973 - The day athletic perfection was defined. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Kva...eature=related Comment Post Cancel moedrabowsky My Uncle Had a Ho Runner Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 34204 Share Tweet #14 03-21-2004, 10:05 AM This type of maneuvering is mere proof that Al Davis is senile. He is, but the Glazers are his equal in that regard. The Bucs got a trophy and the second coach on their list, but now are in salary cap hell and in a complete rebuilding mode, with the 15th overall pick and no second-round pick. Their next pick after the first round is number 79. Al Davis is crazy like a fox. But, you're right -- signing Sapp to this contract is insane. His mind is not for rent, to any god or government. Pointless debate is what we do here -- lvr Comment Post Cancel CD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18253 Share Tweet #15 03-21-2004, 10:20 AM Originally posted by moedrabowsky@Mar 21 2004, 09:05 AM This type of maneuvering is mere proof that Al Davis is senile. He is, but the Glazers are his equal in that regard. The Bucs got a trophy and the second coach on their list, but now are in salary cap hell and in a complete rebuilding mode, with the 15th overall pick and no second-round pick. Their next pick after the first round is number 79. Al Davis is crazy like a fox. But, you're right -- signing Sapp to this contract is insane. Salary cap hell is worth the trade off if you win the Super Bowl. Comment Post Cancel Previous 1 2 template Next English (US) Deutsch (Du) English (US) French Spanish Help Contact Us Go to top Copyright © 2003-13, TippingPitchers.com Powered by vBulletin® Version 5.6.4 Copyright © 2021 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. All times are GMT-6. This page was generated at 10:28 PM. Working... Yes No OK OK Cancel X

[CD]

It depends on what the Rams thought Warner was worth. If they thought they could get a lot for him, then there was never any chance of him being moved. If the asking price was just a fifth round pick, then he probably could've been traded.

I really believe that Warner's trade value is zero. He hasn't played well in a long time and he brings distractions to the table (largely through his wife mouthing off). I do agree that his episode in the church hurt his trade value even more because it indicated that he wasn't willing to take responsibility for his poor play. I think the idea that he'll somehow recapture some of his old form is more wishful thinking than anything else.

[Fred Garvin]

Originally posted by OldSchoolStroker+Mar 21 2004, 12:12 AM-->

QUOTE (OldSchoolStroker @ Mar 21 2004, 12:12 AM)

tallahassee blues fan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 30235 Share Tweet #13 03-21-2004, 09:53 AM Fond farewells from Florida flow freely: SPORTS COMMENTARY: MIKE BIANCHI Sapp's legacy: Great player was not-so-great guy Mike Bianchi March 21, 2004 He might go down as the most feared player in Tampa Bay Buccaneers history. The shame of it is that Warren Sapp could have been the most revered, too. The man has personality, pizazz, magic and magnetism. But what Sapp never had was courtesy or civility. He treated people like garbage -- fans, media, even his own teammates. And, sadly, this is why there is no sadness today. Sapp is no longer a Buccaneer, but there is no outrage, only acceptance. Not like earlier this month, when the Bucs allowed John Lynch, another of their defensive legends, to walk away. Tampa Bay went ballistic when Lynch left. Talk-radio callers spewed vitriol. Letters to the editor still are pouring in. All for one reason: John Lynch was a great player and a good guy. Warren Sapp was a great player. There was no groundswell of support to keep Sapp, even though he desperately wanted to stay in Tampa. He turned a deaf ear on the common fan, and in the end, he got what he had coming -- an unheard farewell. "No, Warren's not a nice guy, but you can't fault him for that," says Scot Brantley, a former Bucs player who is now a radio commentator for the team. "That's just how he is." Sorry, Scot, I think you can fault him. It's not so hard to be civil to people. It's not so hard to shake a fan's hand or sign an autograph. Or smile and nod at a guest who has been invited to watch a practice. Instead, Sapp verbally assaulted that guest -- Tampa Robinson high school coach Mike Dupue. He attended a Bucs practice last season after the team honored him as the area's prep coach of the week. Dupue was standing on the sideline when Sapp came over and cussed him out -- all because Dupue had the audacity to make eye contact with Sapp. Dupue used the words "bellicose and belligerent" to describe Sapp and told the Sentinel the incident "left me heavyhearted. I felt sorry for the guy, really." Sympathy for Sapp? Nah, not me. Just a pang of regret that such a great player could leave so unloved and unwanted. For so long, Sapp was the face of the franchise and the heart of the defense. In 1996, two young defensive players -- Sapp and linebacker Derrick Brooks -- were sitting in a hotel room in San Diego watching ESPN's Chris Berman, who came on the air and said, "The Chargers play the Yucs today." Sapp looked at Brooks and said, "Damn, we've got to do something about this." They did something, all right. Sapp, Brooks and Lynch turned the most laughable losers in all of sports into one of the most dominant defenses in NFL history. And, now, ironically, Sapp is going to the same team -- the Raiders -- that the Bucs demolished in the Super Bowl. Before free agency started, there was the flawed belief that Sapp would attract countless offers and command a huge contract. In reality, he was courted by only a few teams and signed with the Raiders for $7 million in guaranteed money -- less than three other free-agent defensive tackles and not even half as much as the $15 million being bandied about last summer. Sapp's skills have eroded dramatically. The name of his Web site is QBKilla.com, but QBAnnoyance.com seems more appropriate these days. He recorded 51/2 sacks last season and leaves Tampa Bay only two sacks short of breaking Lee Roy Selmon's team mark. I'm glad he won't get the record. Lee Roy Selmon was a great player, and an even better person. June 9, 1973 - The day athletic perfection was defined. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Kva...eature=related Comment Post Cancel moedrabowsky My Uncle Had a Ho Runner Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 34204 Share Tweet #14 03-21-2004, 10:05 AM This type of maneuvering is mere proof that Al Davis is senile. He is, but the Glazers are his equal in that regard. The Bucs got a trophy and the second coach on their list, but now are in salary cap hell and in a complete rebuilding mode, with the 15th overall pick and no second-round pick. Their next pick after the first round is number 79. Al Davis is crazy like a fox. But, you're right -- signing Sapp to this contract is insane. His mind is not for rent, to any god or government. Pointless debate is what we do here -- lvr Comment Post Cancel CD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18253 Share Tweet #15 03-21-2004, 10:20 AM Originally posted by moedrabowsky@Mar 21 2004, 09:05 AM This type of maneuvering is mere proof that Al Davis is senile. He is, but the Glazers are his equal in that regard. The Bucs got a trophy and the second coach on their list, but now are in salary cap hell and in a complete rebuilding mode, with the 15th overall pick and no second-round pick. Their next pick after the first round is number 79. Al Davis is crazy like a fox. But, you're right -- signing Sapp to this contract is insane. Salary cap hell is worth the trade off if you win the Super Bowl. Comment Post Cancel Previous 1 2 template Next English (US) Deutsch (Du) English (US) French Spanish Help Contact Us Go to top Copyright © 2003-13, TippingPitchers.com Powered by vBulletin® Version 5.6.4 Copyright © 2021 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. All times are GMT-6. This page was generated at 10:28 PM. Working... Yes No OK OK Cancel X

[tallahassee blues fan]

Fond farewells from Florida flow freely:

SPORTS COMMENTARY: MIKE BIANCHI

Sapp's legacy: Great player was not-so-great guy
Mike Bianchi

March 21, 2004

He might go down as the most feared player in Tampa Bay Buccaneers history.

The shame of it is that Warren Sapp could have been the most revered, too.

The man has personality, pizazz, magic and magnetism. But what Sapp never had was courtesy or civility. He treated people like garbage -- fans, media, even his own teammates. And, sadly, this is why there is no sadness today.

Sapp is no longer a Buccaneer, but there is no outrage, only acceptance. Not like earlier this month, when the Bucs allowed John Lynch, another of their defensive legends, to walk away. Tampa Bay went ballistic when Lynch left. Talk-radio callers spewed vitriol. Letters to the editor still are pouring in. All for one reason: John Lynch was a great player and a good guy.

Warren Sapp was a great player.

There was no groundswell of support to keep Sapp, even though he desperately wanted to stay in Tampa. He turned a deaf ear on the common fan, and in the end, he got what he had coming -- an unheard farewell.

"No, Warren's not a nice guy, but you can't fault him for that," says Scot Brantley, a former Bucs player who is now a radio commentator for the team. "That's just how he is."

Sorry, Scot, I think you can fault him. It's not so hard to be civil to people. It's not so hard to shake a fan's hand or sign an autograph. Or smile and nod at a guest who has been invited to watch a practice.

Instead, Sapp verbally assaulted that guest -- Tampa Robinson high school coach Mike Dupue. He attended a Bucs practice last season after the team honored him as the area's prep coach of the week.

Dupue was standing on the sideline when Sapp came over and cussed him out -- all because Dupue had the audacity to make eye contact with Sapp.

Dupue used the words "bellicose and belligerent" to describe Sapp and told the Sentinel the incident "left me heavyhearted. I felt sorry for the guy, really."

Sympathy for Sapp? Nah, not me. Just a pang of regret that such a great player could leave so unloved and unwanted. For so long, Sapp was the face of the franchise and the heart of the defense.

In 1996, two young defensive players -- Sapp and linebacker Derrick Brooks -- were sitting in a hotel room in San Diego watching ESPN's Chris Berman, who came on the air and said, "The Chargers play the Yucs today." Sapp looked at Brooks and said, "Damn, we've got to do something about this."

They did something, all right. Sapp, Brooks and Lynch turned the most laughable losers in all of sports into one of the most dominant defenses in NFL history. And, now, ironically, Sapp is going to the same team -- the Raiders -- that the Bucs demolished in the Super Bowl.

Before free agency started, there was the flawed belief that Sapp would attract countless offers and command a huge contract.

In reality, he was courted by only a few teams and signed with the Raiders for $7 million in guaranteed money -- less than three other free-agent defensive tackles and not even half as much as the $15 million being bandied about last summer.

Sapp's skills have eroded dramatically. The name of his Web site is QBKilla.com, but QBAnnoyance.com seems more appropriate these days.

He recorded 51/2 sacks last season and leaves Tampa Bay only two sacks short of breaking Lee Roy Selmon's team mark. I'm glad he won't get the record.

Lee Roy Selmon was a great player, and an even better person.

[moedrabowsky]

This type of maneuvering is mere proof that Al Davis is senile.

He is, but the Glazers are his equal in that regard. The Bucs got a trophy and the second coach on their list, but now are in salary cap hell and in a complete rebuilding mode, with the 15th overall pick and no second-round pick. Their next pick after the first round is number 79.

Al Davis is crazy like a fox. But, you're right -- signing Sapp to this contract is insane.

[CD]

Originally posted by moedrabowsky@Mar 21 2004, 09:05 AM

This type of maneuvering is mere proof that Al Davis is senile.

He is, but the Glazers are his equal in that regard. The Bucs got a trophy and the second coach on their list, but now are in salary cap hell and in a complete rebuilding mode, with the 15th overall pick and no second-round pick. Their next pick after the first round is number 79.

Al Davis is crazy like a fox. But, you're right -- signing Sapp to this contract is insane.

Salary cap hell is worth the trade off if you win the Super Bowl.