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    Aide: Rumsfeld Urged Iraq Attack Sooner

    Aide: Rumsfeld Urged Iraq Attack Sooner
    16 minutes ago Add White House - AP Cabinet & State to My Yahoo!

    By TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld almost immediately urged President Bush (news - web sites) to consider bombing Iraq (news - web sites) after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on New York and Washington, says a former senior administration counterterrorism aide.

    Richard A. Clarke, the White House counterterrorism coordinator at the time, recounts in a forthcoming book details of a meeting the day after the terrorist attacks during which top officials considered the U.S. response. Even then, he said, they were certain that al-Qaida was to blame and there was no hint of Iraqi involvement.

    "Rumsfeld was saying we needed to bomb Iraq," Clarke said. "We all said, 'But no, no, al-Qaida is in Afghanistan (news - web sites)."

    Clarke, who is expected to testify Tuesday before a federal panel reviewing the attacks, said Rumsfeld complained in the meeting that "there aren't any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good targets in Iraq."

    Clarke also criticized President Bush for promoting the administration's efforts against terrorism, accusing top Bush advisers of turning a blind eye to terrorism during the first months of Bush's presidency.

    The Associated Press first reported in June 2002 that Bush's national security leadership met formally nearly 100 times in the months prior to the Sept. 11 attacks yet terrorism was the topic during only two of those sessions.

    The last of those two meetings occurred Sept. 4 as the security council put finishing touches on a proposed national security policy review for the president. That review was finished Sept. 10 and was awaiting Bush's approval when the first plane struck the World Trade Center.

    "Frankly, I find it outrageous that the president is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism," Clarke told CBS. "He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something." (Go to Yahoo for rest of story)

    Interesting, no?
    Norman Chad, syndicated columnist: “Sports radio, reflecting our sinking culture, spends entire days advising managers and coaches, berating managers and coaches, firing managers and coaches and searching the countryside for better middle relievers. If they just redirected their energy toward, say, crosswalk-signal maintenance, America would be 2 percent more livable.”

    "The best argument against democracy," someone (Churchill?) said, "is a five minute conversation with the average voter."
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  • #2
    That is simply amazing.

    1 - "there aren't any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good targets in Iraq."

    2 - The Associated Press first reported in June 2002 that Bush's national security leadership met formally nearly 100 times in the months prior to the Sept. 11 attacks yet terrorism was the topic during only two of those sessions.


    Two times it came up? But Damn Clinton knew about OBL and should have been hunting him down, but Dubya thought so little of it they talked about it TWICE!

    This guy skips reading the DAILY THREAT ASSESSMENT from the CIA, but he is tough on terror.
    Be passionate about what you believe in, or why bother.

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    • #3
      The Kerry campaign must be doing cartwheels over this, and in anticipation of more information that the 9/11 panel will, somehow, leak to the press!

      I wonder if the Bush campaign will make a series of ads attacking the 9/11 panel?
      Norman Chad, syndicated columnist: “Sports radio, reflecting our sinking culture, spends entire days advising managers and coaches, berating managers and coaches, firing managers and coaches and searching the countryside for better middle relievers. If they just redirected their energy toward, say, crosswalk-signal maintenance, America would be 2 percent more livable.”

      "The best argument against democracy," someone (Churchill?) said, "is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

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      • #4
        What is it someone is fond of saying?....

        The silence is deafening.
        Be passionate about what you believe in, or why bother.

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        • #5
          Guys, in Bush At War, a very pro-Bush story on post 9/11 by Bob Woodward, this "let's bomb Iraq" thing is in evidence just a day or 2 after 9/11. Colin Powell in fact rolled his eyes at the mention of it.

          Now, will Clark back away like O'Neil did when the administration makes threatening calls to his daughter or whatever it is that they do?
          Dude. Can. Fly.

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          • #6
            Evidently, no one on the right cares!

            Or, they're speechless!
            Norman Chad, syndicated columnist: “Sports radio, reflecting our sinking culture, spends entire days advising managers and coaches, berating managers and coaches, firing managers and coaches and searching the countryside for better middle relievers. If they just redirected their energy toward, say, crosswalk-signal maintenance, America would be 2 percent more livable.”

            "The best argument against democracy," someone (Churchill?) said, "is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

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            • #7
              Maybe we've just concluded you're going to post the same horseshit no matter what is said.
              And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

              -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Damtoft@Mar 20 2004, 12:54 PM
                Maybe we've just concluded you're going to post the same horseshit no matter what is said.
                DING!

                "Can't buy what I want because it's free...
                Can't buy what I want because it's free..."
                -- Pearl Jam, from the single Corduroy

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                • #9
                  I've always thought it was horseshit when I see the Bush commercial with him standing among the ruins of 911. The appearance is that Bush is glad that 911 happened, so he could politicize it for his own benefit and use it as a big part of his reelection campaign. And indeed that is exactly what is happening - using fear, and the perception that Cowboy George is going to keep us all safe from evil while we sleep at night in order to win re-election.

                  The reality is that Bush ignored the warning signs of a potential terrorist attack and it is NOT a good thing to have happened on a president's watch.

                  The roar from the right would be deafening had 911 happened under Clinton.
                  “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.”

                  Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in.

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                  • #10
                    Razz,

                    Seems I saw Clinton standing in the ruins of the Murrah Building in OKC.

                    Didn't hear any protests then.
                    And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

                    -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Damtoft@Mar 20 2004, 01:41 PM
                      Razz,

                      Seems I saw Clinton standing in the ruins of the Murrah Building in OKC.

                      Didn't hear any protests then.
                      Did Clinton use it in any campaign commercials, or otherwise use OKC for political purposes?
                      “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.”

                      Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in.

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                      • #12
                        BTW, Clarke is going to be on "60 minutes" tomorrow night to discuss this. Should be interesting...
                        “I’ve always stated, ‘I’m a Missouri Tiger,’” Anderson said March 13 after Arkansas fired John Pelphrey, adding, “I’m excited about what’s taking place here.”

                        Asked then if he would talk to his players about the situation, he said, “They know me, and that’s where the trust comes in.

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                        • #13
                          Of course he did.

                          He politicized it from the git-go.

                          He even took the unprecedented step of blaming the attack on political enemies.
                          And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

                          -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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                          • #14
                            Oh what a tangled web we weave, .... ..... .. ........ .. .........!
                            Norman Chad, syndicated columnist: “Sports radio, reflecting our sinking culture, spends entire days advising managers and coaches, berating managers and coaches, firing managers and coaches and searching the countryside for better middle relievers. If they just redirected their energy toward, say, crosswalk-signal maintenance, America would be 2 percent more livable.”

                            "The best argument against democracy," someone (Churchill?) said, "is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

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                            • #15
                              you are one dumb SOB
                              And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

                              -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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